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Dr. 58 tells us about the Flood of Horrors

Posted by IronGhost , 14 August 2010 · 629 views

Ouija Dr. 58
Note: I apologize to everyone for the long delay in new Dr. 58 material. Life is busy.  But I have TONS of transcripts to type up and put here, so I will try to get on it.  My heartfelt thanks to everyone who is coming here checking for new material daily. Thanks for your patience. And, so, here we go:


Question: Dr. 58, will you speak with us?

ANSWER: YES.

Question: Tell us about the Nazi extermination of the Eburneans, will you please?

ANSWER: IT WAS MADE POSSIBLE BY THE FLOOD OF HORRORS.

Question: Yes, you have mentioned this before. What happened?

ANSWER: IN THE PREVIOUS CYCLE, THERE APPEARED OVER MINNESOTA A GREAT ERUPTION OF BLACK SMOKE. IT WAS VISIBLE FROM VERY FAR DISTANCES. THERE WAS MUCH TERROR.

Question: So something inside Minnesota was blowing up or erupting, or something, like a volcano?

ANSWER: NOT A VOLCANO.  A GREAT GRITTY SMOKE CAME FORTH INTO THE SKY. A WIND CAUSED THE BLACK SMOKE TO DRIFT EAST.

Question: Would that be into Wisconsin them? Do you have a Wisconsin?

ANSWER: YES, WISCONSIN.

Question: That seems so weird to us that you have many of the same common names that we have for states as we do. What do you think? How are these areas named?

ANSWER: THE NAMES ARE FANCIFUL, OFFERED BY THE GREAT SORCERER BENJAMIN FRANKLIN.

Question: Ah, back to him again. So Ben Franklin, through the devices of the Endergonic Gnosis, somehow divined the names of places like Minnesota, Iowa and Wisconsin?

ANSWER: YES.

Question: Well, since Franklin was supposedly declared Socmal, and supposedly hanged, how is it that those names he gave to certain American location remain in use?

ANSWER: THE NAMES BECAME POPULAR. FRANKLIN WROTE MANY ROLL-UPS, BELOVED BY MANY PEOPLE. HE CREATED FANCIFUL NAMES FOR MUCH OF AMERICA. THEY CAME INTO USAGE.

Question: In our world we have 50 states. How many states are there in your America?

ANSWER: IíM NOT SURE.

Question: Well, can you give me an estimate, a round figure?

ANSWER: NO.

Question: Why not? I think it would be easy enough.

ANSWER: THERE IS MUCH VARIATION IN TERRITORY.

Question: Forget it for now, letís get back to the great black smoke that drifted out of Minnesota and into Wisconsin. Is it know what caused this?

ANSWER: THERE IS MUCH SPECULATION, BUT IT MUST HAVE BEEN SOME KIND OF WAR INSIDE MINNESOTA.

Question: How would anyone know that?

ANSWER: THE SMOKE CAME FORTH FOR THREE DAYS. AT NIGHT, STRANGE FLASHES APPEARED IN THE SKY ABOVE MINNESOTA, AS IF EXPLOSIONS.

Question: Could explosive sounds be heard?

ANSWER: YES, AND MORE THAN THAT.

Question: Like what?

ANSWER: MANY STRANGE SOUNDS OF UNDESCRIBABLE QUALITY WERE HEARD FROM AFAR. THE LIGHT IN THE SKY WERE UNNATURAL.

Question: What do you mean? What kind of lights?

ANSWER: GEOMETRIC PATTERNS. BARS OF LIGHTS AT STRANGE ANGLES. LIGHT IS CRYSTALINE FORMS.

Question: Hmmm. Well, what does this have to do with this Flood of Horrors you mentioned before?

ANSWER:  ON THE THIRD DAY OF THE ERUPTIONS THERE CAME DOWN THE GRADITCH CHAX A GREAT MASS OF HORROR -- DEAD BODIES OF MANY STRANGE KINDS, AND OF EXTREME NUMBER.

Question: Wow. So, apparently some kind or massive upheaval or war was occurring somewhere inside Minnesota, and many thousands of  Ö er, people were killed. Was it the bodies of human beings that began floating out of Minnesota in the Graditch Chax?

ANSWER: MANY WERE HUMAN BEINGS. BUT MANY WERE NOT.

Question: Jeepers, what were some of the other bodies?

ANSWER: STRANGE CREATURES OF HORRIFYING QUALITY.

Question: Like what?

ANSWER: UNNATURAL.

Question: Give us an example, will you?

ANSWER: SPIDER CREATURES THE SIZE OF BUFFALO, BUT WITH MULTIPLE HUMAN HEADS.

Question: Yeeks!  These were floating dead in the Graditch Chax? Lots of them?

ANSWER:  YES.

Question: What else?

ANSWER: OF MANY VARIETY AND HORRORS. SOME WERE STILL ALIVE AND SPEWING RANK LIQUIDS.  LARGE BLOATED WORMS, PIERCED WITH SPEARS. TROLLS. LIZARD MEN. BIRD THINGS. INSECT THINGS. HORSES.

Question: Were there ordinary dead human corpses floating in the Chax?

ANSWER: YES, MANY. BUT THERE WERE EVEN MORE EBURNEANS.

Question: Whoa!  Wait a minute! There were dead Eburneans floating out of Minnesota in the Graditch Chax?

ANSWER: YES. AFTER A PERIOD, THE GRADITCH CHAX SEEMED WHITE, AS IF FILLED WITH SNOW. IT WAS THE BODIES OF EBRURNEANS. FEW WERE WHOLE.

Question: What do you mean few were whole?

ANSWER: THE BODIES OF THE EBURNEANS WERE CHOPPED UP. THERE WERE MANY HEADS, ARMS, LEGS TOROS. THEIR WHITE BLOOD MADE THE CHAX AS MILK.

Question: This sounds extremely grotesque. So there were all kinds of huge dead animals and monster things, dead humans, this mixed with zillions of dead white-as-snow Eburneans. I assume this why this event was called the flood of horrors?

ASNWER: YES.

Question: Were some of the other people and creatures chopped up into pieces like the Eburneans?

ANSWER: YES, BUT THE EBURNEANS IN PARTICULAR.

Question: I wonder why? Well, were the Eburneans clad in war clothing? I mean, were they dressed like soldiers? Were they wearing armor or anything like that?

ANSWER: THAT IS THE RUMOR.

Question: Who was around to observe this flood of horrors? Isnít the Graditch Chax and even the vicinity of the river avoided?

ANSWER: YES, BUT AN EVENT THIS BIG DREW MUCH ATTENTION AND THE GOVERNMENT OBSERVED. AND OTHERS.

Question: What others?

ANSWER: MAYANS. NAZIS.

Question: Hmmm.  Well, is it common for foreigners such as the Maya and the Nazis to be in the interior portions of America, doing things, observing things?

ANSWER: YES, SOMETIMES.

(Note: We were going to ask about the particular politics and how all this worked, but decided this would sidetrack us, so we moved on for now, saving this discussion for later).

Question: Of course, the burning we question we have is, how is it that there were so many Eburneans inside Minnesota in the first place? You said earlier that Eburneans have always lived outside Minnesota in all parts of the world. And you also said it is the belief that that which is from inside Minnesota cannot long exist outside Minnesota.  So what is the thinking here?

ANSWER: THERE WAS SHOCK ALL AROUND THE WORLD. THAT SO MANY EBURNEANS WERE INSIDE MINNESOTA WAS FRIGHTENING. NO ONE UNDERSTOOD IT.

Question: What was the general consensus, then? Did it cause a rethinking of who the Eburneans are, and their origin?  I mean, it seems logical (if anything in this bizarre story could be logical!!) that Eburneans are indeed from Minnesota, since they are so weird, perhaps not even human. What do you think?

ANSWER: THIS WAS PRECISELY THE CASE MADE BY THE NAZIS.

Question: Why were the Nazis so anxious to make the case that Eburneans were actually from Minnesota, their origin, that is?

ANSWER: OF COURSE, SO THEY COULD BEGAN TO KILL THEM.

Question: I understand that the Eburneans are considered to be extremely obnoxious by the people of your world, and taboo. But, and I hope this is not a dumb question, but why were the Nazis so eager to start exterminating them?

ANSWER: THE SITUATION IS COMPLEX. THE NAZIS ARE XENOPHOBES. THEY HOLD THEMSELVES TO BE SUPERIOR TO ALL OTHERS.  THE PRESENCE OF THE EBURNEANS WAS OF SPECIAL OFFENSE TO THEM.

Question: Yes, they sound a lot like the Nazis of our world. They held certain groups to be inferior to themselves, and carried out an attempt to exterminate that which we call Jews in our world -- which you know as the Hebrews.

ANSWER: THAT SEEMS STRANGE.

Question: Why?

ANSWER: THE HEBREWS ARE A MINOR CULTURE. THEY HOLD NO GREAT PLACE IN THE WORLD. THEY ARE FEW AND QUIET.

Question: Yes, well, I get the impression that the Hebrew culture in our world was perhaps more widespread and hold a certain greater role in the make-up of the culture and geopolitics of our world -- you see, the Hebrew religion is the progenitor of Christianity in our world. In our world, Jesus was a Hebrew. This is not the case in your world?

ANSWER: NO.

Question: You said Jesus was from Sumer. What cultural background is associated with Jesus in your world?

ANSWER:  JESUS IS SAID TO BE FROM OUTER SPACE.

Question: His mother Mary was from outer space, but was not Jesus born on Earth like any other human?

ANSWER: I DONíT THINK THAT IS THE BELIEF. HE EMERGED FROM SUMER. BUT HE COMES FROM OUTER SPACE.

Question: Okay, whatever. But back to the Nazis. Were they able to sway the other nations of the world, you Americans and the Mayans that the Eburneans were from Minnesota, and therefore unnatural, and therefore deserving to be wiped out with violence?

ANSWER: THERE WAS MUCH DEBATE. THERE WAS NO AGREEMENT. THE NAZIS WOULD KILL THE EBURNEANS. SO THEY DID SO.

Question: What about the Thor Thralldom? Did they not oppose the Nazis?

ANSWER: THE THRALLDOM OPPOSES THE NAZIS IN ALL THINGS.

Question: Could they not prevent the Nazi extermination of the Eburneans?

ANSWER: THERE IS NO WILL AMONG ANY NATION TO INTEFER WITH THE EBUREANS FOR GOOD OR BAD.

Question: Yet, the Nazis dared take this step. Were they not risking a backlash, for isnít even harming or having anything whatsoever to do with the Eburneans highly taboo?

ANSWER: YES. BUT THE NAZIS SUSPECTED TACIT APPROVAL.

Question: And were they correct?

ANSWER: I WILL NOT SPEAK OF IT.

Question: Okay. We have an unending number of questions about this situation, but were are exhausted so simply must end it here for now. We hope to speak to you again soon, Dr. 58. Thank you.

ANSWER: VERY WELL.

Question: Good-bye.

GOOD-BYE.





Robin_Shadowes
Aug 14 2010 09:24 PM
One thing I have noticed is that all the people who used to debate this thread on the forum seems to have quit after the moderators closed the old thread. And that is a shame I think. Perhaps it was a mistake to close the old thread?
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The original thread was causing a lot of headaches for the mods, unfortunately. They had to police it constantly for outrageous statements and personal attacks on me and other folks, and for violating all manner of forum rules.

Still, I agree with Robin. I would encourage everyone here to make as many comments as they wish -- as moderator here of my own blog, I will rule with a loose hand and suffer a lot of free ranging discussion, both critical and otherwise.

I will say that many did not like the pitched discussion that was going on -- I received a number of requests from people to post a site where there are transcripts only -- that site is www.dr58.blogspot.com.

But I encourage all readers here to make comments -- I find that I am energized by the comments to a very high degree, and it keeps me more motivated to keep the material coming faster.  So don't be shy, everyone, and thanks, Robin!
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Hey IronGhost I am starting to work through the Hemi Sync program called the "Gateway Experience".  It has been very interesting and I see some links in what that program covers and a few things you have mentioned in your releases in the past.  Any connection between what the "Gateway Experience" teaches and your releases that have been posted since the beginning?
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matt71tx, on 16 August 2010 - 10:51 AM, said:

Hey IronGhost I am starting to work through the Hemi Sync program called the "Gateway Experience".  It has been very interesting and I see some links in what that program covers and a few things you have mentioned in your releases in the past.  Any connection between what the "Gateway Experience" teaches and your releases that have been posted since the beginning?

Hey Matt, that's cool: I have been experimenting with Hemi Sync stuff for almost 20 years, I guess. I went very deeply into seeing where this kind of thing could take me. Sometimes I thought the whole thing was a waste of time, but then I slowly started making connections to all kinds of explorations of consciousness. I combined Hemi Sync with lucid dreaming -- and many, many times, I attuned my mind for an hour or two before going to the Ouija board.

It would take many pages to explain all of my experiences with Hemi Sync.  I also started with Gateway. At first I thought it was simply very relaxing, but then I thought about innovative ways I could use some of the mental "tools" suugested by Hemi Sync.

For example, in these Dr. 58 sessions, you will notice that I have made of the EBT -- The Energy Bar tool. I was able to convert this into the C-Chits that helped me get past the Arbiter of the Hassas Grid.

There is also something in Hemi SYnc called an "Ident."  This is a way to identify a specific "entity" that you want to have contact with. I have used this extensively.

Another very interesting advanced Hemi Sync technique involved "converting energy into language."  In this, you send out "energy packets" with your mind, giving them specific meaning -- and you learn to receive "energy information" from other entities that your mind will leanr to interpret, no matter what language they are speaking, or whether they speak a language at all.

That's just a few of the ways I have incorporated Hemi Sync into my Ouija practice, and also my experiments with lucid dreaming and OBE.

You may have read my "Restuarant on the Edge of Time" column here on UM. (See columns: Ken Korczak).  Hemi Sync was very instrumental in helping me "relocate" the Restaurant when I wanted to go back to it repeatedly.  I just focused on the "ident" for the RET -- and bang! I was there.

Keep me informed about your results with Hemi Sync.  And report beack here, if you want. It's okay if it's off topic. I encourage all kinds of discussion here.

Very best to you -- Happy Exploring!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Thanks for the response IronGhost.  I suspected that you used some if not most of the Hemi Sync techniques that they talk about.  I am just starting into Hemi Sync so as I look over a general overview of the content I feel that learning and understanding what they are teaching and explaining will be a beneficial and positive experience for me.  Your "Restaurant on the Edge of Time" column was very interesting and does inspire me to look more into the Hemi Sync techniques.  I already have noticed some minor changes with just the small amount of Hemi Sync material that I have covered.  I am taking it slow and looking forward to covering the entire "Gateway Experience" program.  If anything greatly interesting comes up I will be sure to comment on it!  :)
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rileycooper
Aug 17 2010 02:38 PM
I have been desperatly waiting for your next installment ig and am well and truly hooked.  Can you maybe ask dr 58 if he has the country Australia in his world and also I'm really interested in the mundane normal stuff in his world like what foods he eats , and how he prepares/cooks his food,  how he baths, what kind of heating systems they use when it gets cold and what he sleeps in.  Is it a bed like we have or something different.  Does he sleep around 8 hours like we do a day etc etc you get where I'm coming from I'm sure I read a post of yours saying you have most of  these details and I would love to read all about them.   Ok keep up the great work xxxx
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rileycooper, on 17 August 2010 - 09:38 AM, said:

I have been desperatly waiting for your next installment ig and am well and truly hooked.  Can you maybe ask dr 58 if he has the country Australia in his world and also I'm really interested in the mundane normal stuff in his world like what foods he eats , and how he prepares/cooks his food,  how he baths, what kind of heating systems they use when it gets cold and what he sleeps in.  Is it a bed like we have or something different.  Does he sleep around 8 hours like we do a day etc etc you get where I'm coming from I'm sure I read a post of yours saying you have most of  these details and I would love to read all about them.   Ok keep up the great work xxxx


Hey riley, great minds thing alike. :)  Every question or subject you mention here loom very large in my mind, and I have gotten to many of these and hope to get to all, eventually.

The thing is -- YOU WOULD NOT BELIEVE -- how difficult things get when you get into nitty-gritty details, the mundane things of life, like, "how do you heat your home?" or "Do you eat meat?"  or "What do you cook your food with?"  The answer to just one of these questions leads to many, many, many crazy little details that almost always send us careening off down some rabbit hole.

The truly bizarre thing about Dr. 58 is that he has a strangely dual nature -- in many ways he seems to totally normal and relatable, like a friend living next door -- but then when you start getting into the details of some things, his views about the world and reality are truly bizarre.

In many ways, Dr. 58 is fundamentally different in the way he thinks -- it's hard to figure out.

But -- I plan to keep at it.  It's amazing -- there is so much material now, I'm sure it would fill three full-length books -- and we have channeled all this info in less than months!  

I keep asking myself -- where is this going to lead, will this information ever end?  Will it be 10 books?  30?  

Will try hard to get another transcript posted tonight!!

Thank you and all those who are interested in Dr. 58 as I am.  All of you are helping push me along to keep discovering more of this information.

Cheers.
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Hey, IronGhost. Any chance of that 'tonnage' dropping into the strange universe anytime soon?

Could use a fix.

The World's a busy place right now, I get it. Still...

Best to you.
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Curious16yearold
Aug 27 2010 02:47 AM
I check every day for your next post xD I can not wait!!
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