innerverse Posted November 12, 2009 #26 Share Posted November 12, 2009 Science is an accurate model of reality, it isn't "real" though...these are 2 different things. For example, when we say that the model of multi-dimensions fits with our current cosmologic model, id doesn't mean that the universe is multidimensional, it means that in our current model the introduction of dimensions solves problems and applies to our current evidence and data. Science is a code, not reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corp Posted November 12, 2009 #27 Share Posted November 12, 2009 *calls someone to repair all the broken desks* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
innerverse Posted November 12, 2009 #28 Share Posted November 12, 2009 *calls someone to repair all the broken desks* You're refering to my post? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talonfire Posted November 13, 2009 #29 Share Posted November 13, 2009 Why can't this indecisive world of ours make up its mind on when it's going to end? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhungobains Posted November 13, 2009 #30 Share Posted November 13, 2009 If we have enough guesses we'll get it right eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattshark Posted November 13, 2009 #31 Share Posted November 13, 2009 (edited) Science is an accurate model of reality, it isn't "real" though...these are 2 different things. For example, when we say that the model of multi-dimensions fits with our current cosmologic model, id doesn't mean that the universe is multidimensional, it means that in our current model the introduction of dimensions solves problems and applies to our current evidence and data. Science is a code, not reality. No science is a method of study and it is real and produces real results. Observe - Hypothesise - Experiment. It is not reality ,however, but that is a different matter altogether. Edited November 13, 2009 by Mattshark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
innerverse Posted November 13, 2009 #32 Share Posted November 13, 2009 (edited) No science is a method of study and it is real and produces real results. Observe - Hypothesise - Experiment. It is not reality ,however, but that is a different matter altogether. That's what i'm saying. A model of reality. Stephen Hawking wrote in "The universe in a nutshell": ...Every valid scientific theory, whether it refers to "time" or any other term, should, in my opinion, be based in the most accurate philosophy of science: Logical Positivism, which was introduced by Karl Popper and others. According to this way of thinking, a scientific theory consists of a mathematical model that describes and decodes the observations that we make. A "good" theory will be able to describe a vast array of of phenomena with the use of a few simple proposals and also verify that it's predictions can be measured. If the predictions are confirmed by the observational data, then the theory passes the stage of hypothesis, although it can never be prooved to be completely accurate. On the other hand, whereas the theory fails to predict the observational data, then the theory should be disqualified or altered. (At least that's what is supposed to happen. In reality, the accuracy of observations is usually debated as well as the credibility of those who propose it.) If someone follows Logical Positivism, as i do, then he cannot say what Time really is. He can only describe that which consists a very good mathematical model of time and pinpoint the predictions of this specific model. Edited November 13, 2009 by innerverse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corp Posted November 13, 2009 #33 Share Posted November 13, 2009 You're refering to my post? No. Why have you broken desks lately? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
innerverse Posted November 13, 2009 #34 Share Posted November 13, 2009 No. Why have you broken desks lately? None that i can think of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
innerverse Posted November 13, 2009 #35 Share Posted November 13, 2009 (edited) double post Edited November 13, 2009 by innerverse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brlesq1 Posted November 16, 2009 #36 Share Posted November 16, 2009 2011, 2012...wow. What's with all the doomsday predictions lately? People have nothing better to do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementis Inferi Posted November 16, 2009 #37 Share Posted November 16, 2009 this... this is getting a little out of hand now. shouldn't people NOT be wanting the end of the world......... Why do people constantly poke at it? if anybody here follows a religion (particularly christians), then you should know your god likes to take the mick out of his followers, keep poking and your god WILL smite you all. This 2012 business and 'doomsday' will never cease to infuriate me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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