FOX News Is Closer to Terrorism Than WikiLeak

[Persia]

,,,. In an interview with MSNBC yesterday, the WIkiLeaks captain eloquently and vehemently defended his First Amendment rights...

http://www.switched.com/2010/12/23/julian-assange-fox-news-is-closer-to-terrorism-than-wikileaks/

[conspiracybeliever]

For some reason the video isn't working.

[Persia]

For some reason the video isn't working.

Is working ! waiting a couple seconds and then play .

Edited December 26, 2010 by Persia

[kathaksung]

655. Bin Laden and Julian Assange, False flag and living plant (12/7/2010)

On 12/4, I wrote an article "Wiki-Leaks is another false flag" and posted it in APFN. One hour later, I was surprised to find the topic was replied by Julian Assange. I don't think it was Assange himself did it. He is on the run. Most likely it is the work of his handler - the Feds. The purpose is to link me to a would be "criminal". Assange is a living plant like Bin Laden. Here is the topic:

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Wiki-Leaks is another false flag? kathaksung, Sat Dec 4 09:27

* Thats not all, Netanyahu said.... ?Percy, Sat Dec 4 18:52

o Julian Assange answers your questions?Julian Assange, Sat Dec 4 10:24

http://disc.yourwebapps.com/discussion.cgi?disc=149495;article=134449;title=APFN

Bin Laden is a living plant.

In 1990, Soviet bloc collapsed. US intelligence turned its resource which used to deal with Soviet bloc to the new target - Mid-east countries which are rich in natural resource. Bin Laden, an asset of the CIA in Afghanistan war(against Russian), was revived in this new project as a false flag - Islamic extremist. He went to Sudan first in 1991.

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The Sudanese offered to arrest Bin Laden and extradite him to Saudi Arabia .

http://www.infowars.com/saved%20pages/Prior_Knowledge/Clinton_let_bin_laden.htm

Saudi and US didn't take the offer with various excuse because Bin Laden is a living plant they deployed there.

In 1995, Bin Laden tried to set up a connection with Saddam but was refused.

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Exhaustive review finds no link between Saddam, al Qaida

A September 2006 report by the Senate Intelligence Committee concluded that Saddam was "distrustful of al Qaida and viewed Islamic extremists as a threat to his regime, refusing all requests from al Qaida to provide material or operational support."

The Senate report, citing an FBI debriefing of a senior Iraqi spy, Faruq Hijazi , said that Saddam turned down a request for assistance by bin Laden which he made at a 1995 meeting in Sudan with an Iraqi operative.

http://search.yahoo.com/404handler?src=news&fr=404_news&ref=http%3A%2F%2Ftalk.baltimoresun.com%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D110665%26amp%3Bpage%3D12&url=http%3A%2F%2Fnews.yahoo.com%2Fs%2Fmcclatchy%2F20080310%2Fwl_mcclatchy%2F2875005

Sudan may have felt the danger to accomodate Bin Laden. In May 1996, the Sudanese asked bin Laden to leave. He went to Afghan and stay there until now.

In August 1998, Sudan and Afghanistan were bombed by US missiles.

In 2001, after 911, Afghan, facing US invasion, made an offer but failed.

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Bush rejects Taliban offer to hand Bin Laden over

* Taliban demand evidence of Bin Laden's guilt

guardian.co.uk, Sunday 14 October 2001 22.19 BST

http://www.politic.co.uk/18142-remember-osama.html

In Bin Laden's recent 20 years, the countries he went or tried to go, have something in common: They all have rich natural resources. Sudan and Iraq have oil. Afghan has rich mine. '

Quote:

Afghanistan to develop $3 trillion in mining potential

DUBAI | Mon Oct 25, 2010 12:14pm

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE69O3JP20101025

He didn't go to Yemen, Somali or Syria for his "revolution" because they are resource poor countries, not in US interest list. He didn't go to Saudi or Kuwait. Because they are US allies. He only went to Sudan, Afghan, or Iraq (intended to) because these three countries were not controlled by US at that time. As a living plant, he gave US the excuse to activate attack on these three countries. (Even Saddam realized that Bin Laden was a dangerous living plant and rejected him, Iraq at last was invaded with an un-existed WMD)

Julian Assange is another false flag and living plant. The target is not to control natural resource but to control the free speech kingdom - the Internet. If you have noticed that in last month, the events come with the Wiki-leaks' third leaking. '

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The 19 Senators Who Voted To Censor The Internet

from the free-speech-isn't-free dept

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101118/10291211924/the-19-senators-who-voted-to-censor-the-internet.shtml

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US Government seizure of the internet has begun; DHS takes over 76 websites

http://www.naturalnews.com/030542_censorship_internet.html#ixzz17BCGjPeM

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WIKILEAKS will leak 250.000 documents Sunday Nov 28

Sat Nov 27, 2010

http://disc.yourwebapps.com/discussion.cgi?disc=149495;article=134278;title=APFN;pagemark=60

What will be their next step? Feds will upgrade the secret level of the leaking document to their puppet Assange. That will finally justify the legitimate of control of the Internet. When you saw that Wiki-Leaks is moving from this server to that, this web site to other, do you realize all these sites could be potential victims of the next wave of Internet censorship and seizure? Assange does same thing Bin Laden has done.

I always say that I am the most wanted of the Feds. Though I am always under the surveillance of the Feds, to set up an internet communication with a "criminal" could justify their action and turn an unreasonable search into a reasonable one. On 12/5, (next day that Assange post reply to my article) A working van of "Direct TV" parked at my front door. Technician installed something in my neighbor's house. (we share one roof and the wall) I think that they were installing detective instrument. My neighbor has had a dish satellite antenna already.

656. Christmas holiday season plot (12/9/2010)

The next possible action on me and my family likely will be in coming Christmas and New Year's day holiday season. Feds used to apply a search and arrest warrant on holiday because there is family re-union that day. This time the Feds arranged a 7 night Western Carib - holiday cruise for my family, dated from Dec. 19 to Dec. 26. Of course, I refused the invitation. It is easy to frame a case or apply an incident on a trip. Anyhow, that will cut my connection to most of my relatives. My mother, my wife and my daughter, my siblings and their spouse all joined that trip. Moreover, my wife's cousins - Dr. Wang (Huang) and Mr. Wang (Huang) Yi Hong and their spouse also will join the trip. They were murder targets too. see: 223. FBI director said HongKong will be attacked (4/24/04) 242. Dr. Wang is a target (7/24)383. The cross murder deal (2/7/06), 392. 12/2 plot to murder Mr. Wang Yi Hong (3/15/06).

This is third long time trip for my wife this year. It never happen before. It only proves how intensify the persecution is going on.

Last month (November) there was a fire in another cruise ship Carnival. It drifted on the sea for three days without power. "They can call it a nightmare. A cruise from hell." (AP) said.

I think it was a drill of the Feds. Though the usual practices are food poison. It was a psychological pre-planting to justify a coming incident of Royal Caribean (a cruise arranged for my family) if a framed case would go through. And that will be followed by terror attacks, (nuclear attack) Korean crisis and Iran war.

657. Internet control and computer plant (12/16/2010)

On Dec. 7, I wrote "655. Bin Laden and Julian Assange, False flag and living plant (12/7/2010)". Later that day, I learned that Assange turned himself in to the British police. I think that was a swift reaction to my analysis. When Assange's real face was exposed, it was unnecessary to maintain the puppet show. Anyhow, his mission is done. The Internet censorship law- COICA, will go through the House next month even he is absent. WikiLeaks established in 2007. The high tide is in recent days. Feds finally consume Julian Assange in my case. On 12/4, they set up a link between Assange and I by answering my post with his name. Then when I correctly revealed his role is a false flag on 12/7, they ended his hide and seek game earlier than planned.

This time the possible accusation the Feds apply on me might be "access the secret site". I worry that Feds had planted some secret in my computer. I bought a note-book one year ago. I seldom use it because it was heavily harassed by the Feds. The telephone line was blocked; wireless didn't work; even the software Microsoft Word didn't work. Three months ago, my wife suddenly became active on computer with the excuse that she wanted to watch the movie from the Internet. Then came an AT&T technician who found problem in outside station. So the line was opened. Then my wife asked a computer specialist work on my note-book. He downloaded some program into my note-book. So I could go Internet at home and write, store articles with Microsoft Word Pad.

Sometime later, I found that new Microsoft office software having strange character. It kept pop up when I didn't use it. Have you ever seen the Word Pad actively invite you to use it? It also started to request my name if I want to use it. I suspect some one was controlling my computer remotely. They might covertly collect my material through spy software downloaded by that specialist or even input some "confidential material" into my computer without my awareness. My wife never watch a movie from the Internet until now. What she did three months ago, was an action instructed by the Feds. They set up a trap in computer for me. I allege.

To eliminate my suspicion, the computer specialist my wife invited was S.Y.. He was my neighbor 15 years ago.

That was 1995, when I returned from Shanghai, I found my next door neighbor changed. Two families shared a four bed-room house. One family was a couple named Y with a son. The other one was a single mom with a daughter. My wife also had a new colleague: G-man who had a girl. (see 643. Foreign agents or foreign support groups? (8/12/2010) )

The three children were at similar age to my daughter.

My daughter had had three playmates before 1995, they lived cross street or several buildings away. They were all moved away at that time. Instead, Feds found three new playmates for my daughter. From them, I learned that when Feds put one under surveillance, they even get the child included.(my daughter was 6 then) And how close it was? Two families were in next door. One worked as my wife's colleague.

C.Y. was a Chef. He never worked long in any restaurant. Sometimes one week in this one, sometimes a month in that, he changed his employer all the time. When Mrs. Y said her husband had almost worked for every restaurant of the Bay Area, I interpreted it as: the Feds had investigated all restaurants in Bay Area.

S.Y. was a boy then. Last time I saw him, he was still a pupil. Now he is a young man. It seems the Feds have cultivated him as a computer "specialist".

[Cradle of Fish]

My brain exploded.

[Sir Wearer of Hats]

Assange doesn't have First Amendment Rights, he's not American.

[Raptor Witness]

Assange doesn't have First Amendment Rights, he's not American.

Actually, this "right" is argued to extend beyond the boundaries of any human government. If you don't believe me, here's a clue.

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

I don't know if I would call Assange a "patriot," but he has a role to play.

The only way to dismantle bad government is to rip it out by the roots and leave it in the sun to wither and die. That process has begun.

Does the Congress really believe that Heaven cannot duplicate Private Manning's apparent conscience by ten fold? You haven't a clue what you're dealing with, and by the time you figure it out your new laws will be a pile of ashes, and your whispers of confinement for obvious free speech, silenced by roars of laughter abroad.

Edited December 29, 2010 by Raptor Witness

[Sir Wearer of Hats]

those "self evident" rights didn't even extend as far as the slaves owned by the men who wrote them down.

[preacherman76]

All Main stream sponcers terrorism. Even CNN pushed the lies of WMD's in Iraq. They have the blood of a million dead Iraqies on thier hands.

[Raptor Witness]

those "self evident" rights didn't even extend as far as the slaves owned by the men who wrote them down.

That government, which is now perfectly human, will be made imperfectly superhuman.

Wonder can become a want, far greater than freedom could ever provide.

Edited December 31, 2010 by Raptor Witness

[Ignus Fatuus]

I thought I had seen the top of the tower of idiocy ... yet even the name of this topic climbs that list. Well then again the loons have their back against the wall. Guess they would say anything ... from this I know they would!!!

[The Silver Thong]

The fear and paranoia from the U.S. over finding themselves with there hand in the cookie jar is amazing. I also wonder if the Swiss guard at the Vatican are allowed to use condoms.

I this is a false flag to attack the first amendment then we are fubar as I can actually see that working. The constitution and bill of rights eh hmmmm wonder if Bush jr was right and it is just a piece of paper?

Means in the future no journalist will be allowed to expose government corruption there will be no questioning your leaders. Corporations that run the government will have no check and balance. It means a total fascist state. Means being a patriot will require slavery as speaking out as a patriot will no longer be tolerated.

This is getting spooky and yes it seems the path the US has choose to follow. We have something in the making and it needs to be exposed. To condemn exposure and protect the lies is criminal.

Assange is right anyone on t.v. in politics that calls for his death in an illegal manner should be brought up on charges of a serious nature.

[The Silver Thong]

I thought I had seen the top of the tower of idiocy ... yet even the name of this topic climbs that list. Well then again the loons have their back against the wall. Guess they would say anything ... from this I know they would!!!

To simply put your head in the sand will not make things better. Seems you do not grasp the seriousness of this. Hopefully true patriots can get this mess cleaned up.

[Raptor Witness]

Means in the future no journalist will be allowed to expose government corruption there will be no questioning your leaders. Corporations that run the government will have no check and balance. It means a total fascist state. Means being a patriot will require slavery as speaking out as a patriot will no longer be tolerated

When you see the state begin to deny long held beliefs, in exchange for security, you know the end of that nation is near.

[The Silver Thong]

When you see the state begin to deny long held beliefs, in exchange for security, you know the end of that nation is near.

In light of the way the U.S. is handling this, one can only see guilt on there part. To go against the constitution and the first amendment on the side of big government over the people is a clear sighn this could be a false flag to limit journalism. To think a show such as 20/20 or 60 min being charged for espionage for uncovering a crime is unthinkable.

I see a very different red white and blue very shortly. I was hoping I would be old and on my deathbed when this happened but it's happening far faster then I anticipated.

[Col. Kurtz]

The very first line'' in an interveiw with msnbc yesterday'' should have been the first clue this post is bull.

[Raptor Witness]

In light of the way the U.S. is handling this, one can only see guilt on there part. To go against the constitution and the first amendment on the side of big government over the people is a clear sighn this could be a false flag to limit journalism. To think a show such as 20/20 or 60 min being charged for espionage for uncovering a crime is unthinkable.

I see a very different red white and blue very shortly. I was hoping I would be old and on my deathbed when this happened but it's happening far faster then I anticipated.

The whole "false flag" deal doesn't apply to every situation that oddly erupts in history, and which threatens to somehow limit freedom. In fact, the whole underlying idea of a false flag is just the opposite. It is designed to ultimately preserve freedom for the people, through covert means. Just because the means are covert, doesn't mean they are wrong.

I seriously doubt the Congress would be allowed to limit the First Amendment more than splitting a few hairs. The Supreme Court is standing firmly in their way, and they've already ruled in very similar circumstances. Plus, I would argue the court would love to make a historic stand. After all, they have a seemingly mundane role to play, most of the time. This is their chance to shine a little and make people appreciate their form of government, over real tyranny. So even this, could become an argument for this or that covert action, ultimately meant to unite the people through some clever means.

If Assange was even slightly inclined to be anything but a rogue political force, of HIS OWN making, from the very beginning, I might be able to buy a covert argument, but coming from the land "down under," has mythical clues all on its own. Clues than most people will completely ignore.

We're observing the fall of empire on several fronts, but the greatest of these .... is what always destroys them ... an over extension of military power in the face of declining revenues. Which begs the question, at what point does the U.S. begin using its nuclear arsenal as a bargaining chip? That is a distinct possibility, which leads U.S. down a road that ends in almost certain fire.

I do not pity those who would stand up to tyranny.

Edited December 31, 2010 by Raptor Witness

[Raptor Witness]

Assange doesn't have First Amendment Rights, he's not American.

Now consider carefully what is being said here, in reply; within this thread, because it contains more than one curious prediction ...and this was before the Tunisian situation became newsworthy, and well before that dictator fled.

Actually, this "right" is argued to extend beyond the boundaries of any human government.(In other words beyond human authority.) If you don't believe me, here's a clue.

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

I don't know if I would call Assange a "patriot," but he has a role to play.

The only way to dismantle bad government is to rip it out by the roots and leave it in the sun to wither and die. That process has begun.(Up to this point no government had fallen, or was being reported as likely to fall.)

Does the Congress really believe that Heaven cannot duplicate Private Manning's apparent conscience by tenfold? You haven't a clue what you're dealing with, and by the time you figure it out your new laws will be a pile of ashes, and your whispers of confinement for obvious free speech, silenced by roars of laughter abroad.(Something is about to happen "abroad," with regard to free speech. In both Tunisia and Egypt, the people ended up literally roaring and laughing at the dictators the U.S. Congress was supporting, because now they're free of them!)

That government, which is now perfectly human, will be made imperfectly superhuman.(This echoes what is said in the post above, and which is contained within the same thread. It's saying that these rights are from God, not man, and superhuman help is on the way.)

Wonder can become a want, far greater than freedom could ever provide.("Wonder" becoming a "want," far greater than "freedom" could ever provide is spelling out the hypocrisy of the West's own creed, which will soon overcome the very dictators they have been supporting.)