karl 12 Posted December 23, 2010 Author #51 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Did you ever buy Leslie Kean's book (UFOs: Generals, Pilots and Government Officials Go On the Record). I thought there were some very good examples there of real headscratchers. What did you think? Hey Archernyc, I never managed that one but did you ever read 'Clear Intent' by Lawrence Fawcett and Barry Greenwood - that truly is an interesting book and it contains some pretty remarkable UFO descriptions (and government documentation). I don't know if you've seen it before but this is also a good one by Captain Edward J. Ruppelt on free Ebook format This is Edward J. Ruppelt's memoir of his role in the seminal US Air Force UFO study projects: Projects Sign, Grudge and Blue Book. According to this account, he coined the acronym 'UFO' and put many of the official procedures for reporting and studying UFOs in place. An enjoyable read, this book captures the feel of working for the mid-20th century US military. He describes the changing attitudes of the USAF about UFOs during the early 1950s: wobbling between denial, ridicule, paranoia, and genuine inquiry. A key point of this book is to resolve doubts about the military's role. Ruppelt makes a strong case that UFOs weren't a top secret weapons system; the reports were not disinformation by intelligence agencies; nor was there a concerted effort to cover up UFOs by the US government. Ruppelt does recount many times when the brass tried to dismiss reports without investigating them sufficiently. However, this comes across as simply standard-issue military 'cover-your-ass' behavior, not a vast conspiracy. He gives unique details on some of the most impressive sightings on his watch. These were largely witnessed by highly trained observers such as radar operators, fighter and commercial pilots, astronomers, and other scientists, often during the course of their official duties. The Air Force group that Ruppelt worked for had access to data on top secret balloon launches and test flights, so they were able to sort out which reports could be explained in this way. He consulted with a wide range of scientific specialists, many of whom were in favor of the extraterrestrial hypothesis, and some who were skeptics. Fully a quarter of the reports were still unexplained after this rigorous filtering. Ruppelt is decidedly agnostic, but open-minded, about the reality behind the 'unexplained' sightings. link Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcrom901 Posted December 23, 2010 #52 Share Posted December 23, 2010 cheers buddy... all the very best wishes to you too... have a great one... ho ho ho http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISruSSWNe7E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karl 12 Posted December 23, 2010 Author #53 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Mcrom - all the best to you and yours matey! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
booNyzarC Posted December 23, 2010 #54 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Mcrom - all the best to you and yours matey! Love this pic Karl, very cool! All that is missing is a gallows... Just kidding about the gallows part, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karl 12 Posted December 24, 2010 Author #55 Share Posted December 24, 2010 Love this pic Karl, very cool! All that is missing is a gallows... Just kidding about the gallows part, of course. BooNyzarC, it is rather a festive one matey -don't know if you've seen it but NARCAP have just released a new study over on this thread about spherical unidentified aerial phenomena -haven't had time to go through all of it but it looks pretty darn interesting: Spherical UAP and Aviation Safety: A Critical Review Am off to the pub - have a good one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzard Posted December 24, 2010 #56 Share Posted December 24, 2010 Merry Christmas everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karl 12 Posted December 24, 2010 Author #57 Share Posted December 24, 2010 (edited) Merry Christmas everyone. Hazzard, here's that thread about pilot UFO sightings in case you missed it - there's also a comprehensive report at this link about the UFO jet chase over Brazil in 1986 which involved multiple pilot visuals, radar confirmation and government documentary evidence. Happy Christmas. Edited December 24, 2010 by karl 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karl 12 Posted December 24, 2010 Author #58 Share Posted December 24, 2010 Two other interesting reports on the UFO/OVNI/UAP subject: Symposium on Unidentified Flying Objects -Committee on Science and Astronautics - US House of Representatives,1968. "Today the House Committee on Science and Astronautics conducts a very special session, a symposium on the subject of unidentified flying objects; the name of which is a reminder to us of our ignorance on this subject and a challenge to acquire more knowledge thereof. We approach the question of unidentified flying objects as purely a scientific problem, one of unanswered questions. Certainly the rigid and exacting discipline of science should be marshaled to explore the nature of phenomena which reliable citizens continue to report" Link UFOs: A NEW LOOK - A Special Report by the The National Investigations Committee on Aerial Phenomena (NICAP) "One of the most significant developments since 1964 has been the increasing concern over the UFO problem demonstrated by professional scientists and engineers. The growing involvement of scientists insisting on a careful review of the evidence decreases the likelihood that the problem could or would be buried or glossed over in the future before a proper evaluation is made". Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilly Posted December 24, 2010 #59 Share Posted December 24, 2010 Merry Christmas everyone. Too funny Hazz! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karl 12 Posted December 24, 2010 Author #60 Share Posted December 24, 2010 ..analysing, speculating about (or even just discussing) the nature of the objects involved in such cases as the Tehran incident, the Coyne incident, the Bariloche incident, the Minot AFB incident(s), the Portage County incident, the RAF Boulmer incident, the Shag Harbour incident etc.. should be what it´s all about and I´ve always found it pretty dubious when 'debunkers' refuse to take into account all the facts surrounding certain cases or abjectly refuse to address specific incidents Hi Lilly, happy Xmas to you - I just wondered if you had any opinions on the posted statements or nature of the objects involved in the incidents mentioned above. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karl 12 Posted January 2, 2011 Author #61 Share Posted January 2, 2011 Guess not then - will retire the thread until next Christmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karl 12 Posted December 22, 2011 Author #62 Share Posted December 22, 2011 Happy Xmas for 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DONTEATUS Posted December 22, 2011 #63 Share Posted December 22, 2011 Happy Xmas for 2011 Have a wonderful Christmas Karl12 ! Ho ! Ho ! Ho ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bee Posted December 23, 2011 #64 Share Posted December 23, 2011 . The Blue Aliens Family Advert MERRY CHRISTMAS HAPPY HOLIDAYS SEASON'S GREETINGS To you Karl...and everyone else.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DONTEATUS Posted December 24, 2011 #65 Share Posted December 24, 2011 . The Blue Aliens Family Advert MERRY CHRISTMAS HAPPY HOLIDAYS SEASON'S GREETINGS To you Karl...and everyone else.... Love it Bee ! You too have the best Christmas ever ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSS Posted December 24, 2011 #66 Share Posted December 24, 2011 To all the usual suspects that make this part of the board as enjoyable as it is: Quillius, McRom, Sweetpumper, LS, Mid, Peri, Bad, Boony, Hazzard, Bee, Donteatus, Skyeagle, Lilly, Karl12, Slace2Fate, TFF, Debunker, and long lost Evangium....and all the others i've missed - have a great Christmas and more importantly, health and happiness for the New Year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyeagle409 Posted December 24, 2011 #67 Share Posted December 24, 2011 MERRY CHRISTMAS, everyone!! Best wishes to all in the coming New Year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kali74 Posted December 25, 2011 #68 Share Posted December 25, 2011 Merry Christmas 2011 Happy New Year 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bee Posted December 25, 2011 #69 Share Posted December 25, 2011 To all the usual suspects that make this part of the board as enjoyable as it is: Quillius, McRom, Sweetpumper, LS, Mid, Peri, Bad, Boony, Hazzard, Bee, Donteatus, Skyeagle, Lilly, Karl12, Slace2Fate, TFF, Debunker, and long lost Evangium....and all the others i've missed - have a great Christmas and more importantly, health and happiness for the New Year! I think Evangium was abducted by inter-dimensional elves a few months ago.... but a little birdy told me he's having a lovely time, so all is fine and dandy..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
booNyzarC Posted December 25, 2011 #70 Share Posted December 25, 2011 Merry Christmas! Happy Holidays! And Happy New Year to all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badeskov Posted December 26, 2011 #71 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Merry Christmas! Happy Holidays! And Happy New Year to all! Merry Christmas all!!! Although I did not have time to post and/or research as much as I would have liked this year, I have truly enjoyed all the contributions, from both sides of the fence Cheers, Badeskov Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quillius Posted December 27, 2011 #72 Share Posted December 27, 2011 To all the usual suspects that make this part of the board as enjoyable as it is: Quillius, McRom, Sweetpumper, LS, Mid, Peri, Bad, Boony, Hazzard, Bee, Donteatus, Skyeagle, Lilly, Karl12, Slace2Fate, TFF, Debunker, and long lost Evangium....and all the others i've missed - have a great Christmas and more importantly, health and happiness for the New Year! Thank you Sky scanner, I hope you had a wonderful christmas and the kids enjoyed the day mate. Seasons greetings to all, and wishing you all a Happy New Year... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karl 12 Posted December 31, 2011 Author #73 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Seasons greetings to all, and wishing you all a Happy New Year... Will second that one mate -all the best to everyone on the boards, Cheers! hic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epochrider Posted January 25, 2012 #74 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Thanks for the quotes! Can't believe you have collected so many and I can't wait to pass them on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karl 12 Posted December 15, 2014 Author #75 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Happy Christmas for this year as well! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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