Simbi Laveau Posted August 26, 2012 Author #26 Share Posted August 26, 2012 I don't see an invasion of chinese mainland, sea war is most likely and repulsing a chinese invasion of Taiwan. Possibly ,and I never meant we invade mainland China. I would see them trying to land on American shores first . http://www.japantoday.com/category/national/view/anti-japan-protesters-march-in-chinese-city?utm_campaign=jt_newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_source=jt_newsletter_2012-08-26_AM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simbi Laveau Posted August 26, 2012 Author #27 Share Posted August 26, 2012 http://www.japantoday.com/category/politics/view/s-korea-rejects-japans-proposal-to-take-isle-dispute-to-intl-court?utm_campaign=jt_newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_source=jt_newsletter_2012-08-26_AM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merc14 Posted August 26, 2012 #28 Share Posted August 26, 2012 Possibly ,and I never meant we invade mainland China. I would see them trying to land on American shores first . http://www.japantoda...r_2012-08-26_AM Our Navy is so far superior in all respects that it would be a suicide mission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackofalltrades Posted August 26, 2012 #29 Share Posted August 26, 2012 Our Navy is so far superior in all respects that it would be a suicide mission. All it would take is for another Pearl Harbour type attack then there is no US navy for them to worry about It's not all about superiority, it is also about tactics and the will to win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merc14 Posted August 26, 2012 #30 Share Posted August 26, 2012 All it would take is for another Pearl Harbour type attack then there is no US navy for them to worry about It's not all about superiority, it is also about tactics and the will to win Agreed but this isn't 1941. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Sam Posted August 26, 2012 #31 Share Posted August 26, 2012 (edited) If it boils down to it, U.S. would badly hurt when it comes to a war with China, due to the economy strains we have with them and our deficit. But only in the financial part of our lives. The blow would definitely be soften with our War Machine gears start to grind, bringing jobs for American people to supply and meet the demands of the Army, Air Force, and Navy. To be honest to the fault, an war with China would actually revitalize America's economy, bringing back the factory base that China worked so hard to destroy. Our Navy and Air Force would most definitely double because they are our best defense against China because a military confrontation would lead to shortage in capable service men. Not doubt about it China would most definitely suffer heavy losses and complete devastation of their air force and navy at the hands of America. As for Area-Denial Ballistic Missiles China has, they would be hunted down and take out quickly by the United States Air Force in matter of weeks followed by a Naval Blockade around U.S. allies to protect them. If China doesn't surrender, this would lead to U.S. boots on Chinese soil. Because of the number of Chinese military personal, this would definitely cause an logistic headache for United States Military and heavy losses for America. But on the flip side, because the numbers of military personal for China, they would suffer shortages of supplies that can lead to turnabout for American military. This doesn't include Air Strikes that could cause a massacre for Chinese people when it comes to air superiority. Armored united wouldn't stand an snowball chance against America's combine might of all three armed forces. America definitely got aces of spades in military power and can definitely win any formal war against a nation hands down. Only thing that would bog U.S. down is guerrilla tactics like what is happening in Afghanistan, reason we are just now starting to pull out of the area. At least America's military now has experience in combating this type of warfare that will soften the blow when it comes to be faced with it. If some of you don't know, we have a obligation to protect Japan due to the fact we made them sign a treaty that means no offensive type of military weapons which includes the air force and navy. We are the only line of defense outside of their nation's borders. All it would take is for another Pearl Harbour type attack then there is no US navy for them to worry about It's not all about superiority, it is also about tactics and the will to win Actually it would take multiple pearl harbors because we have navy stationed around the globe with active patrols. When Pearl Harbor happened, we didn't have active patrols or a navy stationed around the globe. There will need to be a whole new set of tactics designed to attack with simultaneously strikes to completely eliminate U.S. navy. Our Navy is the biggest in the whole world and the best, it would be extremely hard to take out U.S. navy if it is needed too. There is a reason the navy is considered to be the top spender of all three forces combined. It represents our global reach and our ability to counter-attack an attack on American assets or American soil. Edited August 26, 2012 by Uncle Sam 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted August 26, 2012 #32 Share Posted August 26, 2012 I may be off base here but I believe that the only real chance of serious conflict in the region will come from North Korea miscalculating and doing something stupid. All the economies of the region are so interconnected that it would be near suicidal to start a war. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Voodoo Posted August 26, 2012 #33 Share Posted August 26, 2012 it doesn't help that the Chinese have long memories and the Japanese refuse to acknowledge war crimes commited during WW2. This is hard to forget. Rape on Nanking. When you rape whole city somehow that stuck in people heads for long time. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanking_Massacre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickian Posted August 26, 2012 #34 Share Posted August 26, 2012 Not sure if it's been brought up yet or not, but cyber attacks and cyber security will play a big role in a war between any two advanced countries. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simbi Laveau Posted August 26, 2012 Author #35 Share Posted August 26, 2012 Not sure if it's been brought up yet or not, but cyber attacks and cyber security will play a big role in a war between any two advanced countries. Well ,I would say that's already going on . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simbi Laveau Posted August 26, 2012 Author #36 Share Posted August 26, 2012 http://www.forbes.com/sites/stephenharner/2012/08/26/u-s-japan-security-alliance-is-obsolete-leaving-japan-caught-between-china-and-the-u-s-in-a-new-asian-order/ Interesting read . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indiogene Posted August 27, 2012 #37 Share Posted August 27, 2012 A war between China and Japan nor South Korea will not happen, due to the consequences of losing special economic might (Japan), its vital alliance (South Korea) and free trade statuses (China) when they deal with relations with the USA. The Senkuku Islands was too far from Mainland Japan to begin with, however Japan held a claim to them before their surrender and the Treaty of San Francisco of 1951. Japan never relinquished the four southernmost Kuril Islands from the Russians when the then-Soviet Union took them in the end of WWII and remain a bitter contestant role in Russia-Japan relations. But at least, the USA returned Okinawa and the Bonin Islands in the 1970s to Japanese authorities, though US armed forced bases remain in Okinawa for purposes in East Asian affairs and US business interests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simbi Laveau Posted August 28, 2012 Author #38 Share Posted August 28, 2012 http://www.scmp.com/portal/site/SCMP/menuitem.2c913216495213d5df646910cba0a0a0/?vgnextoid=56019ba8bb869310VgnVCM100000360a0a0aRCRD&vgnextfmt=teaser&ss=&s=News The worst unrest between China and japan,in years . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xanthurion2 Posted August 28, 2012 #39 Share Posted August 28, 2012 man, i didn't know about the Nanking thing until now...hopefully the world has changed enough since then to not have to worry about it happening again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted August 28, 2012 #40 Share Posted August 28, 2012 man, i didn't know about the Nanking thing until now...hopefully the world has changed enough since then to not have to worry about it happening again. What's happening in Syria isn't much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praetorian-legio XIII Posted August 29, 2012 #41 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Beware the sleeping dragon, for when it awakens, it shall not sleep again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simbi Laveau Posted September 3, 2012 Author #42 Share Posted September 3, 2012 http://www.scmp.com/news/china/article/1028480/japanese-visit-diaoyu-islands-survey-prompts-china-condemnation First week of Sept 2012,. China denounces Japans actions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simbi Laveau Posted September 3, 2012 Author #43 Share Posted September 3, 2012 http://www.japantoday.com/category/national/view/relatives-of-abductees-urge-govt-to-put-pressure-on-n-korea Japan wants resolution to the Japanese citizens abducted by North Korea,over the last 35 year's,issue,that North Korea has dutifully ignored . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackofalltrades Posted September 3, 2012 #44 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Beware the sleeping dragon, for when it awakens, it shall not sleep again. In today's climate I wonder who the sleeping dragon is... my bet would be on China as they outnumber all the other countries in manpower Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExpandMyMind Posted September 3, 2012 #45 Share Posted September 3, 2012 it doesn't help that the Chinese have long memories and the Japanese refuse to acknowledge war crimes commited during WW2. They've practically wiped those atrocities from their own history. It is only relatively recently that Japanese students have started learning about their forefathers' actions. For decades it was completely hidden from the public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExpandMyMind Posted September 3, 2012 #46 Share Posted September 3, 2012 What's happening in Syria isn't much better. What? The two are not even comparable. It actually cheapens the Nanking massacre to utter the two in the same breath... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted September 3, 2012 #47 Share Posted September 3, 2012 What? The two are not even comparable. It actually cheapens the Nanking massacre to utter the two in the same breath... The only difference is in scale not kind. If Assad had a completely free hand I think the two would appear very similar. I also think that when any dictator or government has such a free hand such atrocity is possible. That only seems to occur when the world is engaged in total war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notoverrated Posted September 3, 2012 #48 Share Posted September 3, 2012 What everyone overlooks,is the chinese army is heavily trained i hand to hand combat.They also outnumber us by millions . They would turn it into an on land face to face confrontation,and we would lose .,badly . And its fool hardy to just say,..oh. gee,one of our biggest allies,gosh ,let another country attack them .No problem . all countries are and most of them use the same basic tactics wich is basically MMA, but the do outnumber us so that could make us lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simbi Laveau Posted September 4, 2012 Author #49 Share Posted September 4, 2012 http://www.japantoday.com/category/politics/view/s-korea-japan-suspend-military-exchange-program?utm_campaign=jt_newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_source=jt_newsletter_2012-09-04_PM Japan and S Korea suspend military exchange program,over rising tensions . http://www.japantoday.com/category/politics/view/china-warns-u-s-against-taking-sides-in-territorial-disputes?utm_campaign=jt_newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_source=jt_newsletter_2012-09-04_PM China WARNS US,do not take sides . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simbi Laveau Posted September 4, 2012 Author #50 Share Posted September 4, 2012 all countries are and most of them use the same basic tactics wich is basically MMA, but the do outnumber us so that could make us lose. There is no such emphasis on this kind of training for the US army,and these guys practice this stuff,daily. The Chinese red army also carry certain Chinese herbs on them,at all times,to save them if shot or stabbed .They do a lot of things we do not do . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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