Hawken Posted January 7, 2013 #201 Share Posted January 7, 2013 More Truth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjadude Posted January 8, 2013 #202 Share Posted January 8, 2013 who cares, ppl did die from it, accedent or not makes no difference. It makes a world of difference. One is unintentional. the other is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted January 8, 2013 #203 Share Posted January 8, 2013 It makes a world of difference. One is unintentional. the other is not. ., so you saying getting killed by drunk driver is somehow ok, but getting shot isn't??? but hey when you level law abiding gun owner and child molester, i really don't care of your opinion, and I'm sure I'm not at all alone at that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellar Posted January 8, 2013 #204 Share Posted January 8, 2013 (edited) More Truth Yes, and if the laws were similar to Canadas, that gun would not have been in the car for him to steal... Also, why was the gun in the trunk in the first place? Did she feel that she needs to drive around with it for safety? She thought that hey, if someone robs her, she'll run to her car, pull out the gun and shoot the guy? Edited January 8, 2013 by Stellar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tacos Posted January 8, 2013 #205 Share Posted January 8, 2013 I am just stating The Columbine Massacre happened during the assault weapons ban from 1994-2004. Would a ban now really be a good "solution?" Maybe. Maybe not. WILL BANNING GUNS STOP HOMICIDES? STATS From England and Australia show... I believe the government, if they do anything, needs to show more support and initiative into educating the mentally ill. All of the mass shootings that have happened lately have been conceived and perpetuated by the mentally ill. Newtown Shooting Prompts Calls for the Mental Health Reform. I also believe we should prosecute the politicians who swore to preserve, protect, and defend The Constitution. This is what I believe, followed up by facts. I am an avid gun owner. Please read the links before trying to respond. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidhead Posted January 8, 2013 #206 Share Posted January 8, 2013 (edited) "I believe the government, if they do anything, needs to show more support and initiative into educating the mentally ill. All of the mass shootings that have happened lately have been conceived and perpetuated by the mentally ill. Newtown Shooting Prompts Calls for the Mental Health Reform." While I agree with this... it's a slippery slope given the fact that over half the western world population is deemed mentally ill due to GOV prescribed drugs. Edited January 8, 2013 by acidhead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawken Posted January 8, 2013 #207 Share Posted January 8, 2013 It makes a world of difference. One is unintentional. the other is not. So then if a drunk driver kills one of your family you won't be as emotional about it even if the driver did it unintentional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drayno Posted January 8, 2013 #208 Share Posted January 8, 2013 "I believe the government, if they do anything, needs to show more support and initiative into educating the mentally ill. All of the mass shootings that have happened lately have been conceived and perpetuated by the mentally ill. Newtown Shooting Prompts Calls for the Mental Health Reform." While I agree with this... it's a slippery slope given the fact that over half the western world population is deemed mentally ill due to GOV prescribed drugs. I agree with your point, acidhead. Once we start punishing the mentally ill it won't be long until we're all deemed "mentally ill" and debarred of the use of guns. What a clever mechanism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
questionmark Posted January 8, 2013 #209 Share Posted January 8, 2013 I agree with your point, acidhead. Once we start punishing the mentally ill it won't be long until we're all deemed "mentally ill" and debarred of the use of guns. What a clever mechanism. So why don't we pass out a box of Tommy guns at the next asylum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted January 8, 2013 #210 Share Posted January 8, 2013 who is WE???? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drayno Posted January 8, 2013 #211 Share Posted January 8, 2013 So why don't we pass out a box of Tommy guns at the next asylum? I want you to know I just facepalmed really hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
questionmark Posted January 8, 2013 #212 Share Posted January 8, 2013 I want you to know I just facepalmed really hard. you should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoIverine Posted January 9, 2013 #213 Share Posted January 9, 2013 you should. You see, what we really need is a gun that shoots bees, look out allergy sufferers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyridium Posted January 9, 2013 #214 Share Posted January 9, 2013 According to VP Biden, Obama will use Executive Orders to implement new and sweeping changes to gun laws. I believe Obama will limit magazine size for all weapons. This will be his first test to see if it will hold up constitutionally...if it survives the supreme court, Obama will soon have all guns banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoIverine Posted January 9, 2013 #215 Share Posted January 9, 2013 According to VP Biden, Obama will use Executive Orders to implement new and sweeping changes to gun laws. I believe Obama will limit magazine size for all weapons. This will be his first test to see if it will hold up constitutionally...if it survives the supreme court, Obama will soon have all guns banned. I thought it was an "Executive Action"? Not an "Executive Order", same? Similar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted January 10, 2013 #216 Share Posted January 10, 2013 this is what i read in todas paper, ny gvrn cuomo proposes changes to ny gun laws. now all it takes a shrink to say he isn't sure you can be trusted with a gun, (and they will say it, every time, cuz if they clear you and you shoot someone they will be responsible, i guarantee you 200% they will not want to take that responsibility), for gvmnt to come bust your door with swat team and take your guns away, if anyone is still under impression gvnt don't want to take your guns away, they are very stupid .gvmt openly says it. well, time for a check to be sent to nra ila. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+HerNibs Posted January 10, 2013 #217 Share Posted January 10, 2013 this is what i read in todas paper, ny gvrn cuomo proposes changes to ny gun laws. now all it takes a shrink to say he isn't sure you can be trusted with a gun, (and they will say it, every time, cuz if they clear you and you shoot someone they will be responsible, i guarantee you 200% they will not want to take that responsibility), for gvmnt to come bust your door with swat team and take your guns away, if anyone is still under impression gvnt don't want to take your guns away, they are very stupid .gvmt openly says it. well, time for a check to be sent to nra ila. Now quite what your article says. It states that health professionals should have a way to report when a client is likely to use their gun. It's always been that way. If a mental health professional thinks that an individual is a danger to themselves or others they can report it now. Just not required everywhere (it is my state I believe). The Aurora shooter was reported. It doesn't say that everyone who has guns will be required to have mental health screenings or anything like that. Basically, it's Cuomo not understanding current laws or asking for better definitions. I think that a medical or mental health professional should be required to report threats that they think might be valid. I believe the issue now is the guidelines on when to report aren't clear. If I saw my neighbor outside with his gun behaving oddly I would call the police. Why shouldn't professionals be required to do the same? You're misrepresenting the article. Can you tell me where the image you have came from? What magazine? Nibs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted January 10, 2013 #218 Share Posted January 10, 2013 (edited) You're misrepresenting the article. Nibs noi i,m not you're in denial, have a nice day. metro new york, jan10th. edition. Edited January 10, 2013 by aztek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted January 10, 2013 #219 Share Posted January 10, 2013 You see, what we really need is a gun that shoots bees, look out allergy sufferers! didn't they have one of those in the original half life? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted January 10, 2013 #220 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Obama signs law giving himself, Bush lifetime Secret Service guard. http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/obama-signs-law-giving-himself-bush-lifetime-secret-184305122--politics.html. prev next Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted January 10, 2013 #221 Share Posted January 10, 2013 (edited) ....... Edited January 10, 2013 by aztek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted January 10, 2013 #222 Share Posted January 10, 2013 (edited) Now quite what your article says. It states that health professionals should have a way to report when a client is likely to use their gun. It's always been that way. If a mental health professional thinks that an individual is a danger to themselves or others they can report it now. Just not required everywhere (it is my state I believe). The Aurora shooter was reported. It doesn't say that everyone who has guns will be required to have mental health screenings or anything like that. Basically, it's Cuomo not understanding current laws or asking for better definitions. If I saw my neighbor outside with his gun behaving oddly I would call the police. Why shouldn't professionals be required to do the same? You're misrepresenting the article. Can you tell me where the image you have came from? What magazine? Nibs yea, they are likely to report, so cops can bust your doors and take your guns, it also in the article, how did you miss that? selective reading?? the difference betwen you and the shrink, is huge, you can report your neigbour all you want, cops will go investigate, and see if your claim legit, you didn't really think cops will do what you tell them, right??? if shrink does it they come, bust your door and take your guns. period. of course cuomo not understanding current laws but you sure do, lmao, do you know how childish it sounds??? why would anyone take you seriously after that??? Edited January 10, 2013 by aztek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+HerNibs Posted January 10, 2013 #223 Share Posted January 10, 2013 yea, they are likely to report, so cops can bust your doors and take your guns, it also in the article, how did you miss that? selective reading?? the difference betwen you and the shrink, is huge, you can report your neigbour all you want, cops will go investigate, and see if your claim legit, you didn't really think cops will do what you tell them, right??? if shrink does it they come, bust your door and take your guns. period. of course cuomo not understanding current laws but you sure do, lmao, do you know how childish it sounds??? why would anyone take you seriously after that??? You do realize that the image you posted isn't the full article right? Maybe you could provide the full article? From what I read, your summary is incorrect. Nibs Oh, and regarding Obama signing that stuff about the Secret Service? Yeah, all presidents and their wives have Secret Service protection all their lives. Again, fear mongering and stretching the truth. Nibs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawken Posted January 11, 2013 #224 Share Posted January 11, 2013 .Ban Abortion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted January 11, 2013 #225 Share Posted January 11, 2013 (edited) looking at the current generation, and others as well, i'd say we need to encourage abortions, and pbly give money for it, will be a lot cheaper in a long run Edited January 11, 2013 by aztek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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