Harte Posted January 10, 2013 #4551 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Maybe you need some engineering background or architectural knowledge to really appreciate how intricate and difficult this is to achieve: Until you see this seeder, it's like trying to argue that an Austin 7 is more refined than a BMW. As a mechanical engineer, formerly a registered PE, I say that Greek construction/architecture is light years ahead of anything anyone ever did in Peru. Maybe you need your head examined, if you ever pull it out of there. Harte 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoser Posted January 10, 2013 #4552 Share Posted January 10, 2013 (edited) It's possible I missed it but is there any chemical indication that vitrification happened? The most detailed analysis on the vitrification done so far. Indicates strongly use of heat. http://www.ancient-m...ges_of_peru.pdf More heresy to the skeptics here. They tried to burn it. Edited January 10, 2013 by zoser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoser Posted January 10, 2013 #4553 Share Posted January 10, 2013 (edited) As a mechanical engineer, formerly a registered PE, I say that Greek construction/architecture is light years ahead of anything anyone ever did in Peru. Maybe you need your head examined, if you ever pull it out of there. Harte Never going to trust you to build a bridge. Yet you could never convincingly explain in a hundred years how they achieved that one example of craftsmanship. Edited January 10, 2013 by zoser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hasina Posted January 10, 2013 #4554 Share Posted January 10, 2013 The most detailed analysis on the vitrification done so far. Indicates strongly use of heat. http://www.ancient-m...ges_of_peru.pdf More heresy to the skeptics here. They tried to burn it. Now I wonder if sanding can create enough heat to create the same indications of vitrification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoser Posted January 10, 2013 #4555 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Now I wonder if sanding can create enough heat to create the same indications of vitrification. Try it. Only one way. Let me know when your arm has lost a third of it's skin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hasina Posted January 10, 2013 #4556 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Try it. Only one way. Let me know when your arm has lost a third of it's skin. I glanced at a Wiki page about vitrified forts, Clarke tried to reproduce the same affect by piling stones in a bonefire, it wasn't perfect but he didn't have all the time in the world to perfect it. Could a combination of heating stones and sanding and time create these stone markings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoser Posted January 10, 2013 #4557 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Anyway off now. See you all tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quaentum Posted January 10, 2013 #4558 Share Posted January 10, 2013 (edited) Just rhetoric Q mixed with a little frustration. If this is not moulding then what is it? I leave the rhetoric to you. I don't post when I'm frustrated because it makes it difficult for me to get my point across. Nice attempt to try to turn things around. If I can't come up with what it was then you'll claim it must be molding. A tactic worthy of Nopeda. However, that's not how it works. You have made the claim of molding so it is your responsibility to provide any evidence that supports that claim, whether it be a whole or partial mold, or reference to molding in any of the texts available. You of course aren't obligated nor can you be forced to do so but lack of something to back it up will keep the claim as unevidenced/unsupported belief. Edited January 10, 2013 by Quaentum 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoser Posted January 10, 2013 #4559 Share Posted January 10, 2013 I glanced at a Wiki page about vitrified forts, Clarke tried to reproduce the same affect by piling stones in a bonefire, it wasn't perfect but he didn't have all the time in the world to perfect it. Could a combination of heating stones and sanding and time create these stone markings? No Here's the killer to that theory: Unless someone can find a way of building a fire inside a small diameter hole: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oniomancer Posted January 10, 2013 #4560 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Hardly going to compete with the Cuzco wall Mr O! Austin 7 versus BMW. You am right, it am all uglee and mishapun! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeder Posted January 10, 2013 #4561 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Anyway off now. See you all tomorrow. got homework to do then? dont worry...just one more day at school before you can have all weekend to reply! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoser Posted January 10, 2013 #4562 Share Posted January 10, 2013 (edited) I leave the rhetoric to you. I don't post when I'm frustrated because it makes it difficult for me to get my point across. Nice attempt to try to turn things around. If I can't come up with what it was then you'll claim it must be molding. A tactic worthy of Nopeda. However, that's not how it works. You have made the claim of molding so it is your responsibility to provide any evidence that supports that claim, whether it be a whole or partial mold, or reference to molding in any of the texts available. You of course aren't obligated nor can you be forced to do so but lack of something to back it up will keep the claim as unevidenced/unsupported belief. Fire in the hole! See above post old boy. Edited January 10, 2013 by zoser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hasina Posted January 10, 2013 #4563 Share Posted January 10, 2013 No Here's the killer to that theory: Unless someone can find a way of building a fire inside a small diameter hole: Good point. I'll ponder on this one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoser Posted January 10, 2013 #4564 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Can't get away. Must be enjoying myself too much. Any more for any more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoser Posted January 10, 2013 #4565 Share Posted January 10, 2013 OK. Until we meet again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramelin Posted January 10, 2013 #4566 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Did they cause all this: http://www.unexplain...85#entry4615539 I sincerely doubt it. Stop dreaming Abe. But you have no answer for the dents I asked you about. YOU stop dreaming, and YOU try to think of how we now could do the job. And when you have no idea, ask, but don't assume it must have been aliens. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeder Posted January 10, 2013 #4567 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Can't get away. Must be enjoying myself too much. Any more for any more? its never hard to bring a hungry pig to a slop bucket is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oniomancer Posted January 10, 2013 #4568 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Sure; and weathering in caves? You tried to argue that with abe before. Do you see a door on that cave? No? Then it's open to the elements, isn't it? And how far in does the shine go? How long was it occupied? Remember, they had to close both Lascaux and the GP because of damage from the mere presence of tourists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramelin Posted January 10, 2013 #4569 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Oh dear Abe Now you see it: Now you don't Same artifact; different angle and lighting. You didn't answer my question. The stones you showed had many tiny dents. What or who made them? And how? Vitrification? No way. Hammering with cobbles or chisels is the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hasina Posted January 10, 2013 #4570 Share Posted January 10, 2013 You didn't answer my question. The stones you showed had many tiny dents. What or who made them? And how? Vitrification? No way. Hammering with cobbles or chisels is the answer. And sanding! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramelin Posted January 10, 2013 #4571 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Why do they need to be that smooth? It's rock, not glass. This shows the vitrification well and refutes any silly sand theories. Smooth as silk. No extreme heat needed. It was either caused by natural causes (lichens, microbes, and so on), or by applying some chemicals extracted from plants. I'd really like you to show some proof of aliens or some advanced civilization. You never did, ever,, all you did was say "Na na na" when we post something to explain how they did it. Now it's YOUR TURN. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramelin Posted January 10, 2013 #4572 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Zoser, you think you can go on like this by just ignoring what people posted. You are just being stubborn. But let me tell you something: so am I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramelin Posted January 10, 2013 #4573 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Zoser, I have a question for you. Why are there one or two protuberances on the bottom edge of many large blocks of stone in the walls you and I posted images of? Decoration? Or were they functional? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S2F Posted January 10, 2013 #4574 Share Posted January 10, 2013 I see zoser has been trolling again. You know he just makes this stuff up or copy/pastes somebody else's ideas just to get a rise out of people right? He has nothing yet likes to claim victory over the skeptics, classic troll. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramelin Posted January 10, 2013 #4575 Share Posted January 10, 2013 And sanding! But that's a too ordinary explanation. It must be aliens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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