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Why I think Atlantis was this empire of Thera and Crete, the disaster of the flooding was close by and affected Athens, the Egyptan priest said Egypt was saved by the nile.

Critias

Such was the vast power which the god settled in the lost island of Atlantis; and this he afterwards directed against our land for the following reasons, as tradition tells.

In the first place the Acropolis was not as now. For the fact is that a single night of excessive rain washed away the earth and laid bare the rock; at the same time there were earthquakes, and then occurred the extraordinary inundation, which was the third before the great destruction of Deucalion

A massive tsunami to the ancients could have had been described as a excessive rain storm, washing away the earth

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Why I think Atlantis was this empire of Thera and Crete, the disaster of the flooding was close by and affected Athens, the Egyptan priest said Egypt was saved by the nile.

Critias

Such was the vast power which the god settled in the lost island of Atlantis; and this he afterwards directed against our land for the following reasons, as tradition tells.

In the first place the Acropolis was not as now. For the fact is that a single night of excessive rain washed away the earth and laid bare the rock; at the same time there were earthquakes, and then occurred the extraordinary inundation, which was the third before the great destruction of Deucalion

A massive tsunami to the ancients could have had been described as a excessive rain storm, washing away the earth

Thera and Crete were parts of a place/empire (mythical?) named as Αιγιής (sound like Hegeys in english).Imagine the Aegean Sea as a valley,with where the islands exist nowdays as a mountains.

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This was known from the ancient world so those Egyptians priests that talked to Solon the Athenian and Plato is telling us the Story through Timaios and Critias dialogs, knew the difference between those to places/empires.

Also in the dialogs the egyptian priest is talking about another Athens... not the same as the days of Solon.That Athens were located near nowdays Boitia. Another point is that the location of Atlantis was outside the Hercules pillars... nowdays Gibraltar. Both places were destroyed by mother nature... Atlantis in a night... Hegeys in few years as a cause of the floods during the ice-melting (4 of em in Greek Mythology, historians believe that the 1st one vanished Hegeys).

I know that all these sound as a fairytale but in ancient greek, "mythology" comes from "μυθω/μυω" (=Mytho/Myo, im wispering something to the initiates) and "Λόγος" (=Logos,the way to express our thoughts, speak), so it's a story that only those who are initiates will understand, a code.That's why fairytale in greek is "παραμύθι" wich means Not-a-myth.

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Thera and Crete were parts of a place/empire (mythical?) named as Aιγιής (sound like Hegeys in english).Imagine the Aegean Sea as a valley,with where the islands exist nowdays as a mountains.

8755725_orig.jpg

This was known from the ancient world so those Egyptians priests that talked to Solon the Athenian and Plato is telling us the Story through Timaios and Critias dialogs, knew the difference between those to places/empires.

Also in the dialogs the egyptian priest is talking about another Athens... not the same as the days of Solon.That Athens were located near nowdays Boitia. Another point is that the location of Atlantis was outside the Hercules pillars... nowdays Gibraltar. Both places were destroyed by mother nature... Atlantis in a night... Hegeys in few years as a cause of the floods during the ice-melting (4 of em in Greek Mythology, historians believe that the 1st one vanished Hegeys).

I know that all these sound as a fairytale but in ancient greek, "mythology" comes from "μυθω/μυω" (=Mytho/Myo, im wispering something to the initiates) and "Λόγος" (=Logos,the way to express our thoughts, speak), so it's a story that only those who are initiates will understand, a code.That's why fairytale in greek is "πaρaμύθι" wich means Not-a-myth.

On what are you basing this contention as it would not appear to be supported by the available evidence. Actual PDF's of which can be read here:

Holocene sea-level changes along the Mediterranean coast of Israel, based on archaeological observations and numerical model

Sea-level change during the Holocene in Sardinia and in the northeastern Adriatic (central Mediterranean Sea) from archaeological and geomorphological data

Sea-level change along the Italian coast for the past 10,000 yr

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Why I think Atlantis was this empire of Thera and Crete, the disaster of the flooding was close by and affected Athens, the Egyptan priest said Egypt was saved by the nile.

Critias

Such was the vast power which the god settled in the lost island of Atlantis; and this he afterwards directed against our land for the following reasons, as tradition tells.

In the first place the Acropolis was not as now. For the fact is that a single night of excessive rain washed away the earth and laid bare the rock; at the same time there were earthquakes, and then occurred the extraordinary inundation, which was the third before the great destruction of Deucalion

A massive tsunami to the ancients could have had been described as a excessive rain storm, washing away the earth

But how do you explain that Thera and Crete have never sunk?

How do you explain the difference in size with Plato's Atlantis?

Where are your Pillars of Hercules?

How about the timeline?

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I know that all these sound as a fairytale but in ancient greek, "mythology" comes from "μυθω/μυω" (=Mytho/Myo, im wispering something to the initiates) and "Λόγος" (=Logos,the way to express our thoughts, speak), so it's a story that only those who are initiates will understand, a code.That's why fairytale in greek is "παραμύθι" wich means Not-a-myth.

*sigh* Plato clearly says that the Atlantis story is logos, not mythos. So you can save this kind of apologetic writing why you think that Atlantis is not just a myth. It is not meant to be a myth right from the beginning. Allegedly. On the second level of interpretation cormac et al. can doubt this, of course. But on the first level of interpretation, the literal level, it is not a mythos. Period.

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Thera and Crete were parts of a place/empire (mythical?) named as Αιγιής (sound like Hegeys in english).Imagine the Aegean Sea as a valley,with where the islands exist nowdays as a mountains.

8755725_orig.jpg

This was known from the ancient world so those Egyptians priests that talked to Solon the Athenian and Plato is telling us the Story through Timaios and Critias dialogs, knew the difference between those to places/empires.

Also in the dialogs the egyptian priest is talking about another Athens... not the same as the days of Solon.That Athens were located near nowdays Boitia. Another point is that the location of Atlantis was outside the Hercules pillars... nowdays Gibraltar. Both places were destroyed by mother nature... Atlantis in a night... Hegeys in few years as a cause of the floods during the ice-melting (4 of em in Greek Mythology, historians believe that the 1st one vanished Hegeys).

I know that all these sound as a fairytale but in ancient greek, "mythology" comes from "μυθω/μυω" (=Mytho/Myo, im wispering something to the initiates) and "Λόγος" (=Logos,the way to express our thoughts, speak), so it's a story that only those who are initiates will understand, a code.That's why fairytale in greek is "παραμύθι" wich means Not-a-myth.

I believe the dialogues described Athens as where it is today.

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Now the city in those days was arranged on this wise. In the first place the Acropolis was not as now. For the fact is that a single night of excessive rain washed away the earth and laid bare the rock; at the same time there were earthquakes, and then occurred the extraordinary inundation, which was the third before the great destruction of Deucalion. But in primitive times the hill of the Acropolis extended to the Eridanus and Ilissus, and included the Pnyx on one side, and the Lycabettus as a boundary on the opposite side to the Pnyx, and was all well covered with soil, and level at the top, except in one or two places

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But how do you explain that Thera and Crete have never sunk?

(to only inflict punishment on them, that they might be chastened and improve)

How do you explain the difference in size with Plato's Atlantis?

(greater in power then than Libya and Asia put together)

Where are your Pillars of Hercules?

(In the Aegean)

How about the timeline?

(The Kings of Athens of the war - the 1500 bc`s

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Abramelin qoute-

But how do you explain that Thera and Crete have never sunk?

(to only inflict punishment on them, that they might be chastened and improve)

How do you explain the difference in size with Plato's Atlantis?

(greater in power then than Libya and Asia put together)

Where are your Pillars of Hercules?

(In the Aegean)

How about the timeline?

(The Kings of Athens of the war - the 1500 bc`s

In short: no explanation.

Atlantis is said to have sunk below sea level. Exit Thera/Crete.

Atlantis was not greater in power than, but larger than Libya and Asia combined.

And 1500 BCE is NOT 9600 BCE.

Where in the Aegean are those Pillars?

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In short: no explanation.

Atlantis is said to have sunk below sea level. Exit Thera/Crete.

Atlantis was not greater in power than, but larger than Libya and Asia combined.

And 1500 BCE is NOT 9600 BCE.

Where in the Aegean are those Pillars?

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Amongst others, the two southward-pointing headlands on each side of the Gulf of Laconia were pillars of Heracles. Then, to the Greeks, a large island with one end just outside the pillars of Heracles could only have meant Crete. The exotic civilization of Atlantis could then have been the Minoan civilization, which threatened the mainland Greek and Anatolian cultures not 9,000 but 900 years before Solon. Support for a Peloponnesian location for the pillars comes, unexpectedly, from Egypt. The Medinet Habu texts, dating from 1200 BC, describe the Sea Peoples invading from islands to the north (possibly the Aegean) ‘from the pillars of heaven’, by which the Egyptians probably meant that the invaders came from the end of the world as they knew it.

http://historyofourplanet.blogspot.com/

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Amongst others, the two southward-pointing headlands on each side of the Gulf of Laconia were pillars of Heracles. Then, to the Greeks, a large island with one end just outside the pillars of Heracles could only have meant Crete. The exotic civilization of Atlantis could then have been the Minoan civilization, which threatened the mainland Greek and Anatolian cultures not 9,000 but 900 years before Solon. Support for a Peloponnesian location for the pillars comes, unexpectedly, from Egypt. The Medinet Habu texts, dating from 1200 BC, describe the Sea Peoples invading from islands to the north (possibly the Aegean) ‘from the pillars of heaven’, by which the Egyptians probably meant that the invaders came from the end of the world as they knew it.

http://historyofourp...t.blogspot.com/

So you just change 9000 years before Solon into 900 years before Solon because then you have some events that you think have to do with Plato's Atlantis.

But however much you twist the story, Crete/Thera will never be larger than Libya and Asia combined, and both are still above sea level.

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So you just change 9000 years before Solon into 900 years before Solon because then you have some events that you think have to do with Plato's Atlantis.

But however much you twist the story, Crete/Thera will never be larger than Libya and Asia combined, and both are still above sea level.

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Plato

But at a later time there occurred portentous earthquakes and floods, and one grievous day and night befell them, when the whole body of your warriors was swallowed up by the earth, and the island of Atlantis in like manner was swallowed up by the sea and vanished; wherefore also the sea at that spot has now become impassable and unsearchable, being blocked up by the shoal mud which the island created as it settled down.

The tale says the island was swallowed up by the sea and vanished at the time (possiable tsumani) but now was a shoal of visiable mud as the island setted down.

The priest said now as the mud was also seen in his time 550bc in telling Solon.

They say there was a great harbor off Thera that may have disappear ,where many people may have died.

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Amongst others, the two southward-pointing headlands on each side of the Gulf of Laconia were pillars of Heracles. Then, to the Greeks, a large island with one end just outside the pillars of Heracles could only have meant Crete. The exotic civilization of Atlantis could then have been the Minoan civilization, which threatened the mainland Greek and Anatolian cultures not 9,000 but 900 years before Solon.

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And he named them all; the eldest, who was the first king, he named Atlas, and after him the whole island and the ocean were called Atlantic. To his twin brother, who was born after him, and obtained as his lot the extremity of the island towards the Pillars of Heracles, facing the country which is now called the region of Gades in that part of the world, he gave the name which in the Hellenic language is Eumelus, in the language of the country which is named after him, Gadeirus.

Source: Critias

Find out where Gades is. (Hint, that was the Greek name for Cadiz.) Then you'll see they weren't talking about Thera at all.

Believe me. We've all been all over this a thousand times.

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Source: Critias

Find out where Gades is. (Hint, that was the Greek name for Cadiz.) Then you'll see they weren't talking about Thera at all.

Believe me. We've all been all over this a thousand times.

You surely agree that the priest in the Atlantis account allegedly said that the sea straits was called Pillars of Hercules in "your" language, resp. in "your" culture. This simply means that the alleged Egyptian account in the eyes of Plato (real or invention) did not contain the word "Pillars of Hercules". If this is an invention, it is a pretty good one because Plato then even thought on cultural differences in naming. If it is not an invention, then this opens the possibility that the Egyptian priest made a mistake in translating an Egyptian location description into a Greek phrase (including Gades, then). You surely agree that we basically have these two possibilities (where you surely will choose the invention).

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If you are counting on a mistake, then you are also making one.

Harte

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No.

Source: Critias

Find out where Gades is. (Hint, that was the Greek name for Cadiz.) Then you'll see they weren't talking about Thera at all.

Believe me. We've all been all over this a thousand times.

Harte

The old greek writers didn`n t place Hercules out of the Pelopnnese.

Gades was Jowett `s translation, Gades was named by the romans hundreds of years after Solon, it was not Solon`s translation

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Where Were the Pillars of Hercules?

'The reference to the "PILLARS OF HERCULES" (which are always taken to mean the Straits of Gibralta) are, however, a DIFFICULTY and an ANOMALY in this explanation [regarding the location of Atlantis]. Is it possible, then, that the "PILLARS OF HERCULES" are NOT the Straits of Gibralta?

'This has been the subject of some interesting conjectures. Nearly all the labours of Hercules were PERFORMED IN THE PELOPONNESE. The last and hardest of those which Eurytheus imposed on the hero was to descend to Hades and bring back its three-headed dog guardian, Cerberus. According to the most general version Hercules entered Hades through the abyss at CAPE TAENARUN (the modern CAPE MATAPAN), the WESTERN CAPE OF THE GULF OF LACONIA. The EASTERN CAPE of this gulf is CAPE MALEAS, a dangerous promontory, notorious for its rough seas.

'Pausanias records that on EITHER SIDE of this windswept promontory were TEMPLES, that on the west dedicated to POSEIDON, that on the east to APOLLO. It is perhaps therefore not extravagant to suggest that the PILLARS OF HERCULES referred to are THE PROMONTORIES OF TAENARUM AND MALEAS; and it is perhaps significant that the twin brother of ATLAS was allotted the EXTEMITY OF ATLANTIS CLOSEST TO THE PILLARS OF HERCULES. The relevant passage in the Critias (114A-B) states:

'"And the name of his younger twin-brother, who had for his portion the extremity of the island near the pillars of Hercules up to the part of the country now called GADEIRA after the name of that region, was EUMELUS in Greek, but in the native tongue GADEIRUS -- which fact may have given its title to the country."

'Since the region had been named after the second son of Poseidon, whose Greek name was EUMELUS, its Greek title must likewise have been EUMELUS, a name which BRINGS TO MIND THE MOST WESTERLY OF THE CYCLADES, MELOS, which is in fact not far from the notorious CAPE MALEAS. The name EUMELUS was in use in the Cyclades; and the ancient inscription ("EUMELUS an excellent danger") was found on a rock ON THE ISLAND OF THERA.

'In general it can be argued from a number of points in Plato's narrative that PLACING "THE PILLARS OF HERCULES" AT THE SOUTH OF THE PELOPONNESE makes sense, while identifying them with the Straits of Gilbralta DOES NOT.

-- Atlantis: The Truth Behind the Legend, by A.G. Galanopoulos & Edward Bacon. Thomas Nelson & Sons Ltd., N.J. 1969. P.97

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The old greek writers didn`n t place Hercules out of the Pelopnnese.

Gades was Jowett `s translation, Gades was named by the romans hundreds of years after Solon, it was not Solon`s translation

Yes, "Gades" is a translation, but it's a translation of what Plato wrote, ΓΑΔΕΙΡΑ (Gadeira), the Greek name for Cadiz.

Where Were the Pillars of Hercules?

'The reference to the "PILLARS OF HERCULES" (which are always taken to mean the Straits of Gibralta) are, however, a DIFFICULTY and an ANOMALY in this explanation [regarding the location of Atlantis]. Is it possible, then, that the "PILLARS OF HERCULES" are NOT the Straits of Gibralta?

'This has been the subject of some interesting conjectures. Nearly all the labours of Hercules were PERFORMED IN THE PELOPONNESE. The last and hardest of those which Eurytheus imposed on the hero was to descend to Hades and bring back its three-headed dog guardian, Cerberus. According to the most general version Hercules entered Hades through the abyss at CAPE TAENARUN (the modern CAPE MATAPAN), the WESTERN CAPE OF THE GULF OF LACONIA. The EASTERN CAPE of this gulf is CAPE MALEAS, a dangerous promontory, notorious for its rough seas.

'Pausanias records that on EITHER SIDE of this windswept promontory were TEMPLES, that on the west dedicated to POSEIDON, that on the east to APOLLO. It is perhaps therefore not extravagant to suggest that the PILLARS OF HERCULES referred to are THE PROMONTORIES OF TAENARUM AND MALEAS; and it is perhaps significant that the twin brother of ATLAS was allotted the EXTEMITY OF ATLANTIS CLOSEST TO THE PILLARS OF HERCULES. The relevant passage in the Critias (114A- B) states:

'"And the name of his younger twin-brother, who had for his portion the extremity of the island near the pillars of Hercules up to the part of the country now called GADEIRA after the name of that region, was EUMELUS in Greek, but in the native tongue GADEIRUS -- which fact may have given its title to the country."

'Since the region had been named after the second son of Poseidon, whose Greek name was EUMELUS, its Greek title must likewise have been EUMELUS, a name which BRINGS TO MIND THE MOST WESTERLY OF THE CYCLADES, MELOS, which is in fact not far from the notorious CAPE MALEAS. The name EUMELUS was in use in the Cyclades; and the ancient inscription ("EUMELUS an excellent danger") was found on a rock ON THE ISLAND OF THERA.

'In general it can be argued from a number of points in Plato's narrative that PLACING "THE PILLARS OF HERCULES" AT THE SOUTH OF THE PELOPONNESE makes sense, while identifying them with the Straits of Gilbralta DOES NOT.

-- Atlantis: The Truth Behind the Legend, by A.G. Galanopoulos & Edward Bacon. Thomas Nelson & Sons Ltd., N.J. 1969. P.97

So the idea here is that Plato, an educated Greek, ignored all the previous writers who used the term "Pillars of Herakles" for the Strait of Gibraltar, and instead used tt to denote two capes, neither of which are particularly high, nor at all resembling a pillar, and of which only one has association with Herakles?

That's just ridiculous.

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If you are counting on a mistake, then you are also making one.

Your answer does not satisfy scientific standards. First, you avoided to talk on the statement I made. Then, you denied the possibility of a mistake without any reasons. Could you please realize that a scientific treatment of Plato's Atlantis story requires some more precision and differentation? Thank you. In the end, nobody prevents you from concluding that it is not real, so your behaviour of denial even the least concessions is not understandable. Dogmatism is not science.

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Docyabut2,

How old is that inscription on Thera? I mean the inscription that was being translated as "EUMELUS an excellent danger".

Is that translation even correct and what does it suggest if it is?

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@Qoais:

Very well explained.One thing you omitted though, Plato and other sources, also spoke of great statues guarding the entrance to the mediterranean, which is the Iberian Strait between North Africa and Spain, and that the island of Atlantis was situated not far from these statues in the atlantic ocean.

At the University where I studied I had access to very old maps in the archive.To my amazement several of these maps depicted a large island mass just of the entrance to the Iberian Strait.

Most of these maps were made in the 15th Century ad, however there were Arabic maps made somewhere in the late 8th Century ad that also depicted this island.

I found this to be very interesting and strange, because as you continue onward from the 15th Century, the maps do not show this island anymore.

Personally I think Atlantis did exist, but as for the stories of an extremely advanced civilization, wielding firearms and flying ships, I find that highly doubtfull.

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Docyabut2,

How old is that inscription on Thera? I mean the inscription that was being translated as "EUMELUS an excellent danger".

Is that translation even correct and what does it suggest if it is?

Abramelin just learning this stuff my self:):) I have for many years defended that Atlantis was near the straits of Gibralter and was possibly the lost city of Tartessos, but some how things just did`nt add up.

Here are some references.

G. Galanopoulos and E. Bacon suggest[263] that the Pillars of Heracles were possibly associated with Melos, one of the Cycladesor Cape Maleas, the eastern promontory of the Gulf of Laconia. Both James Mavor and Rodney Castleden support this view.

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Abramelin just learning this stuff my self:) :) I have for many years defended that Atlantis was near the straits of Gibralter and was possibly the lost city of Tartessos, but some how things just did`nt add up.

Here are some references.

G. Galanopoulos and E. Bacon suggest[263] that the Pillars of Heracles were possibly associated with Melos, one of the Cycladesor Cape Maleas, the eastern promontory of the Gulf of Laconia. Both James Mavor and Rodney Castleden support this view.

This is what the first link says:

Dr. Galanopoulos was a supporter of the idea that the Egyptian hieroglyphic for 100 was misread as 1000 and so decreased all numbers in Plato’s text by factor of ten. This explanation does not stand up to scrutiny, as the Egyptian hieroglyphics are distinctly different and in any case the Egyptian priests who presumably would have a clear understanding of their own inscriptions would have carried out the interpretation.

In fact the first two links in your quote do not support the Thera/Crete theory, lol!

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The old greek writers didn`n t place Hercules out of the Pelopnnese.

Gades was Jowett `s translation, Gades was named by the romans hundreds of years after Solon, it was not Solon`s translation

Again, no.

Gadir (Phoenician: גדר), the original name given to the outpost established here by the Phoenicians, means "wall, compound", or, more generally, "walled stronghold".

And:

Later, the city became known by a similar Attic Greek form of the Phoenician name, τὰ Γάδειρα (Gádeira). In Ionic Greek, the name is spelled slightly differently, Γήδειρα (Gḗdeira). This spelling appears in the histories written by Herodotus. Rarely, the name is spelled ἡ Γαδείρα (Gadeíra), as, for example, in the writings of Eratosthenes (as attested by Stephanus of Byzantium).

Source: Wiki Cadiz

In Greek, it was Gadeira. You're right that it's Jowett's translation. It is his translation of the Greek term Gadeira. Jowett used the Latin version of the name.

The (imaginary) Egyptians that never actually related any such story to Solon clearly indicated that Atlantis was outside Gibraltar and not far from the west coast of Spain by these statements.

Again, you can make up any "facts" you want. But that won't make them factual.

Your answer does not satisfy scientific standards. First, you avoided to talk on the statement I made. Then, you denied the possibility of a mistake without any reasons.

Once you allow "the possibility of a mistake," you are inserting an infinite number of possibilities. For example, what if Plato made a "mistake" concerning the size of Atlantis. Then I could claim that the entire continent is actually stored inside one of the old tennis shoes in my closet.

Could you please realize that a scientific treatment of Plato's Atlantis story requires some more precision and differentation?

Do you know how to use the search function? Is it my responsibility to present what you consider to be "scientific arguments" repeatedly at this site, merely because a poster refuses to take a look at what has already been posted here?

Thank you. In the end, nobody prevents you from concluding that it is not real, so your behaviour of denial even the least concessions is not understandable. Dogmatism is not science.

It would certainly be "understandable" to anyone that has actually researched the subject thoroughly, as I and many others here have.

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This is what the first link says:

Dr. Galanopoulos was a supporter of the idea that the Egyptian hieroglyphic for 100 was misread as 1000 and so decreased all numbers in Plato’s text by factor of ten. This explanation does not stand up to scrutiny, as the Egyptian hieroglyphics are distinctly different and in any case the Egyptian priests who presumably would have a clear understanding of their own inscriptions would have carried out the interpretation.

In fact the first two links in your quote do not support the Thera/Crete theory, lol!

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They support the Minoans of Thera and Crete for Plato`s Atlantis

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Once you allow "the possibility of a mistake," you are inserting an infinite number of possibilities. For example, what if Plato made a "mistake" concerning the size of Atlantis. Then I could claim that the entire continent is actually stored inside one of the old tennis shoes in my closet.

It would certainly be "understandable" to anyone that has actually researched the subject thoroughly, as I and many others here have.

Yes, the number of possibilities is infinite. *smile* The crucial thing is: Some are more likely, some less. This is scientific thinking. Yeah! Atlantis in your shoes e.g. has a very small likelihood. Furthermore you repeatedly ignore what I elsewhere stated, that you cannot just jump into any possibility, but you have to have reasons for this.

I repeatedly have to say: This black and white scheme, either "fact" or "not of interest" and nothing in between, this is so uneducated, really ... you can't sell this to me as "science", the crucial thing in science is to handle uncertainties.

Yes, that's why so many think Atlantis cannot but be a fiction: Because they do not bear the tension of not knowing. But staying in a we-do-not-know state is at the heart of science.

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