simplybill Posted February 23, 2013 #26 Share Posted February 23, 2013 (edited) (Double post) Edited February 23, 2013 by simplybill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babe Ruth Posted February 23, 2013 #27 Share Posted February 23, 2013 So if another comet hits that sweet spot of Russia, will the permafrost blow up? Maybe a year ago, I happened to catch this video of 2 Russian fellows out tromping in the woods in northern Russia somewhere, maybe Siberia. Flat wooded land, with what looked like 6 or 8 inches of old snow covering all the ground. I suppose it would qualify as permafrost. One guy carried a shovel type tool and the other carried a small flame on a wick or something. The one guy would dig a small hole in the snow and ground, the other would hold the flame in the hole, and voila, burning methane. Pretty cool to watch, but not nice to contemplate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chopmo Posted February 24, 2013 #28 Share Posted February 24, 2013 Meh... I already pay a tax and higher cost of living because of this crap. :@ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pitchp Posted February 24, 2013 #29 Share Posted February 24, 2013 if it happens it happens, that's just the way it is 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tutankhaten-pasheri Posted February 24, 2013 #30 Share Posted February 24, 2013 (edited) Maybe a year ago, I happened to catch this video of 2 Russian fellows out tromping in the woods in northern Russia somewhere, maybe Siberia. Flat wooded land, with what looked like 6 or 8 inches of old snow covering all the ground. I suppose it would qualify as permafrost. One guy carried a shovel type tool and the other carried a small flame on a wick or something. The one guy would dig a small hole in the snow and ground, the other would hold the flame in the hole, and voila, burning methane. Pretty cool to watch, but not nice to contemplate. Likely it was the swamps of Nindalf Edited February 24, 2013 by Atentutankh-pasheri Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundew Posted February 25, 2013 #31 Share Posted February 25, 2013 "Release the mammoths!" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Payne Posted February 25, 2013 #32 Share Posted February 25, 2013 Am I to understand from the original article that they have found the temperature needed to thaw the permafrost from the evidence of previous thawings? i am also "assuming" that there was no runaway greenhouse effect in the previous thawings because i am "here" to write this post. The question then arises if there has been no greenhouse effect how do they know one will happen this time. They have put a lot of research into the thawing but I am not seeing much except speculation regarding "Runaway Greenhouse". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 25, 2013 #33 Share Posted February 25, 2013 Am I to understand from the original article that they have found the temperature needed to thaw the permafrost from the evidence of previous thawings? i am also "assuming" that there was no runaway greenhouse effect in the previous thawings because i am "here" to write this post. The question then arises if there has been no greenhouse effect how do they know one will happen this time. They have put a lot of research into the thawing but I am not seeing much except speculation regarding "Runaway Greenhouse". Current conditions are somewhat unique in the last few million years. Br Cornelius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Merton Posted February 25, 2013 #34 Share Posted February 25, 2013 I don't know about runaway greenhouse effects; the point made above that it didn't happen with previous warmings is well taken, but as Cornelius says, things are different now (mainly because of human activity). The danger is perhaps small, but the consequences horrendous. The risk management formula therefore says, "Don't risk it." Unfortunately we may have already risked it. I would encourage research into ways of capturing green-house gases out of the atmosphere and what might end up being our only salvation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lone wolf2 Posted February 27, 2013 #35 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Green house gasses are naturaly occuring and so is global warming. We are just speeding up the prosses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lone wolf2 Posted February 27, 2013 #36 Share Posted February 27, 2013 One thing i know its caused is higher prices on auto repairs. Soon cars will be like the 18wheelers. Anything goes wrong it has to go to the dealer to be repaired. They wont run after you change a part untill you log into The computer with the factory programs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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