MasterAdam Posted March 1, 2010 #101 Share Posted March 1, 2010 The shadows were not just of people and objects. The pattern of this woman's kimono was seared onto her flesh. It was a horrible use of man's power. The flip side is that, while the US killed 200,000 people with the two bombs, the alternative was an invasion of the mainland. The months leading up to that would have seen a continuation of the firebombing of major Japanese cities, which was estimated to be killing 250,000 people per month. Additionally, the invasion itself would have claimed about one million Japanese lives. The US Secretary of War at the time, Henry Stimson said, "The face of war is the face of death." There is nothing pretty about the mass slaughter of human beings. And the fact that the more 'advanced' man becomes in weaponry, the more civilians will pay the cost. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were big enough single events to capture the attention of the world, but the problem goes far beyond these two dates. <img src="http://www.pcf.city.hiroshima.jp/kids/KPSH_E/hiroshima_e/sadako_e/subcontents_e/images_e/kimonojosei.jpg" border='0' alt='linked-image'> Not to mention the tens of thousands of American troops that would have died trying to invade the mainland. In WW2, manpower wasn't expendable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnacle Battlefront Posted March 1, 2010 #102 Share Posted March 1, 2010 My sister visited Japan a couple of years ago, and visited the Hiroshima museums. She said that seeing the shadows was very haunting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siara Posted March 2, 2010 #103 Share Posted March 2, 2010 (edited) I saw them when I was in Hiroshima. One of the most striking examples was on a flight of stone stairs that (before the blast) had been leading up to a bank. A bunch of people were sitting on the stairs waiting for the bank to open. When the bomb went off their shadows protected the stone a tiny bit so that you can see raised discolored areas where their shadows were. It's an appalling thing to see but it's good to see it because-- it happened. There's a very moving and informative memorial museum at Hiroshima. When I was there (which was 20 years ago) there was a gigantic pile of origami cranes (symbolizing peace) directly beneath the spot where the bomb detonated. People who visited there would each make a few paper cranes and add them to the pile. I wonder if that's still there? . Edited March 2, 2010 by Siara Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
always-nargles Posted March 9, 2013 #104 Share Posted March 9, 2013 These shadows exist, and there is a logical reasoning behind it. Thermal heat waves can only travel in a straight line, but it is so powerful that when it's blocked by an object it completely vaporizes it. However, the object was still there, so it leaves an imprint on what it was blocking. These are called the shadows. And pictures aren't that hard to find, just type "Hiroshima Shadows" in google images and it shows up. Although, you posted this eight years ago, so times may have changed heres an example, a person and a ladder leaning against a wall: or this, a person sitting on stairs: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKO Posted March 10, 2013 #105 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Anyone remember the old Simpsons episode when Homer goes back to the house he grew up in? There was a shadow left behind from Homer sitting in front of the Radiation King TV all day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight Of Shadows Posted March 10, 2013 #106 Share Posted March 10, 2013 that's sad tragedy indeed i never heard of the shadows things before it sounds intersting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted March 10, 2013 #107 Share Posted March 10, 2013 QUOTE (__Kratos__ @ Aug 5 2005, 05:47 PM) I see the pictures on PBS every now and a then... Japan poked at us and got the full brunt of the American hatred of the deaths at Pearl Harbor... as much as it was disgusting... in a way it was beautiful... the innocent for our innocent times so much.... they all scream it was bad for us... they poked at us! And they got it! Sorry to sound war happy... but they attacked us expecting us to roll over. How wrong they were... Today Japan seems to honor being our allie... tis just shows times can change for the better. Trust the Yanks. So many innocent people who had never done anything wrong, children playing with their loving parents, people like you and me (Not that I am in the least comparing you and me Kratos) without warning stopped living. And that is how you sum it up. You disgust me. The Irish and Bengal famines are just a couple of the atrocities Britain is responsible for...MILLIONS DIED. Perhaps you should remove that plank from your own eye before attending to someone else's dust mote... And yes, those civilians were innocent of everything except trusting their government - just like those in the US. Black and white thinking won't take you far in a gray world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKO Posted March 11, 2013 #108 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Anyone remember the old Simpsons episode when Homer goes back to the house he grew up in? There was a shadow left behind from Homer sitting in front of the Radiation King TV all day. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor manhattan Posted March 11, 2013 #109 Share Posted March 11, 2013 (edited) <!--QuoteBegin-Moose&#045;Of&#045;Armageddon+Aug 3 2005, 01:08 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Moose-Of-Armageddon @ Aug 3 2005, 01:08 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Those are some wicked pics 770439[/snapback] <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Whoever finds people's shadows burned into the ground as a grisly reminder of what happend many years ago cool cannot be called normal. <!--emo&--><img src='style_emoticons/default/no.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='no.gif' /><!--endemo--> well actually whats cool and whats not is subjective, so who are to say its not cool. Edited March 11, 2013 by Doctor manhattan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Commander Travis Posted March 11, 2013 #110 Share Posted March 11, 2013 The Irish and Bengal famines are just a couple of the atrocities Britain is responsible for...MILLIONS DIED. Perhaps you should remove that plank from your own eye before attending to someone else's dust mote... And yes, those civilians were innocent of everything except trusting their government - just like those in the US. Black and white thinking won't take you far in a gray world. so angry about it you replied to a post from 5 years ago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolguy Posted March 14, 2013 #111 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Yes its true in ny city at the United nations they have a wall shadow where somebody was standing aginst it i saw it for my self Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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