Iran official: 'Big war' means Mahdi's coming

[Coffey]

We may not have a choice. But the fact remains that even if we do become involved in this, it won't be necessary to put more than a few hundred boots on the ground and then only for a short while. No one has ever said there was an interest in invading Iran. Damaging infrastructure can be done exclusively from the air. I'm sure there will be a howling chorus over that comment but it's true. The war will take place in Israel and with her neighbors I believe. Terror attacks will increase - including here in the US. But that could very well backfire on the mullahs if they take it too far. No one is going to get nuked over this. Israel would never use them except in a situation where massive civilian deaths were occurring.

Yeah of course, it's Iran who wants war..........

I disagree. The way the military was used in the initial attack on Iraq was text book. It was a thing of beauty. If you don't think that it was surgical, what do you think would have happened if they carpet bombed? Casualties were remarkably light. I think that the latest estimate is 120,000 for the entire war and most of them were killed due to insurgents. Yes, that is many lives lost and destroyed but don't even try to say that generations were lost. You need to look at the loss of life on the battlefields of France in WWI. That was the deflowering of a generation on both sides. I was actually unimpressed with the shock and awe show but for what was on camera, there was far more going on elsewhere. I knew that every fire plume that went up was saving the lives of our soldiers. But you are right about the lack of commitment. We were once a warrior people, now 49% are waiting for the government to take care of them. That is what is really sad. This is the loss of generations to come and it's done without firing a shot.

It's not difficult to take out an enemy who's tanks don't even have the same range or superior target systems as yours..... lol

The American, British and other allied tanks steam rolled the Iraqi forces at the start. Wouldn't call it beautiful at all. I call it slaughter. Like putting defenseless cows through a meat grinder. (Not saying Iraqi people are the same as cows, just using the cows as an example)

Edited April 30, 2013 by Coffey

[mrbasserby]

look just google in arabic this words person name :

الامام ناصر محمد اليماني

and you will see how much websites is taking about this man the man who will unite all nations the man that they dont want you to know about him ..

[+and-then]

If he has come then why has he not made his presence known to the world? Did he ascend from the well at Jamkaran? I assume this means Isa will be arriving in Damascus soon also. Respectfully, Mr basserby, trying to convince non Muslims about the Mahdi is a tough sell when even some Muslims dispute his existence. And the few Christians who do know anything of him have probably learned it from a popular book by a guy named Joel Richardson - THE ISLAMIC ANTICHRIST. That title isn't specifically designed to inflame or insult Muslims. If you read it you will see that your Imam Mahdi is an EXACT description of the Biblical antichrist. You really should read it. Richardson is a scholar and has hundreds of references from scholarly works by Muslims to support his thesis.

[Sir Wearer of Hats]

Basserby, I'm the doubting type. Should the Risen Lord Jesus turn up, I'll be the one asking to see his wounds. Should you Imam be the true article, I'll be the bloke going "hmm, convince me". But I'm of the inclination of And Then right now, a reborn man going to create world peace is a bit too Book of Revelations for my liking.

[+and-then]

Yeah of course, it's Iran who wants war..........

It's not difficult to take out an enemy who's tanks don't even have the same range or superior target systems as yours..... lol

The American, British and other allied tanks steam rolled the Iraqi forces at the start. Wouldn't call it beautiful at all. I call it slaughter. Like putting defenseless cows through a meat grinder. (Not saying Iraqi people are the same as cows, just using the cows as an example)

I never said Iran wanted a war. Most countries with ambitions of hegemony in a region would MUCH prefer they were allowed to just impose their will unimpeded. Iran is positioning themselves to assemble a nuclear weapon. IMO they have already gone so far on that road they cannot be stopped. When they announce that they have the bomb I assume you will say "good for them"? They deserve to be able to defend themselves against the US and the Zionists? We disagree big time on this one, Coffey - but have a good day

[mrbasserby]

look ppl its not about muslim or non muslims its more than that its about if you decieded to fight with the truth or against it what i'm talking about not just for humankind the big events will include also angels and jinns and demones this really important dont ignore this by staying in darkness pls wake up ppl and do more research ..

[mrbasserby]

Basserby, I'm the doubting type. Should the Risen Lord Jesus turn up, I'll be the one asking to see his wounds. Should you Imam be the true article, I'll be the bloke going "hmm, convince me". But I'm of the inclination of And Then right now, a reborn man going to create world peace is a bit too Book of Revelations for my liking.

what you want to know the qustion is not how i convince you i can't convince you in somthing you still dont know it yet you must first convince yourself about your believes deep inside you in your heart do you really convinced in what you believe ? is it the truth or not ??

[Coffey]

I never said Iran wanted a war. Most countries with ambitions of hegemony in a region would MUCH prefer they were allowed to just impose their will unimpeded. Iran is positioning themselves to assemble a nuclear weapon. IMO they have already gone so far on that road they cannot be stopped. When they announce that they have the bomb I assume you will say "good for them"? They deserve to be able to defend themselves against the US and the Zionists? We disagree big time on this one, Coffey - but have a good day

If your house was surrounded by gangs who carried knives and guns. Would you not want a gun?

[+and-then]

If your house was surrounded by gangs who carried knives and guns. Would you not want a gun?

Time will tell what they use their "gun" for in future. I have every confidence that they will be at least as threatening as NK has been. And NK doesn't sit astride a choke point for a major portion of the world's oil supply.

[Sir Wearer of Hats]

what you want to know the qustion is not how i convince you i can't convince you in somthing you still dont know it yet you must first convince yourself about your believes deep inside you in your heart do you really convinced in what you believe ? is it the truth or not ??

I believe strong enough to jump if God commands it. I'll just ask "may I know why?" first.

[mrbasserby]

If he has come then why has he not made his presence known to the world? Did he ascend from the well at Jamkaran? I assume this means Isa will be arriving in Damascus soon also. Respectfully, Mr basserby, trying to convince non Muslims about the Mahdi is a tough sell when even some Muslims dispute his existence. And the few Christians who do know anything of him have probably learned it from a popular book by a guy named Joel Richardson - THE ISLAMIC ANTICHRIST. That title isn't specifically designed to inflame or insult Muslims. If you read it you will see that your Imam Mahdi is an EXACT description of the Biblical antichrist. You really should read it. Richardson is a scholar and has hundreds of references from scholarly works by Muslims to support his thesis.

the problems we are facing is we have different believes so if i convinced some person in what i know then i can't convinced other one why ?

because we have different standards of what we believes or know so our judgments based on what we learned and we take it for granted so what i want from you for Moments is to forget what you know or believe i want you to ask your self why the world is corrupted like that who is the real enemy ? if you knew your true enemies then muslims or not will not disagree any more because we take one side against the once who let us to disagree in first place so i want you to use your head and ask this question to yourself why there is so much differences in religions if we all want good and peace ?? if you know the answer you will know you true enemies..

Edited April 30, 2013 by mrbasserby

[mrbasserby]

I believe strong enough to jump if God commands it. I'll just ask "may I know why?" first.

but how you can be sure if this commands from god i will jump with you if i know for sure that god asked me to do it

Edited April 30, 2013 by mrbasserby

[mrbasserby]

The Expected Mahdi is warning Christians, Muslims and Jews

In the name of Allah the Most Beneficent the Most Gracious From the Expected Mahdi to Christians, Muslims and Jews and to all people peace to the followers of the right path …

Allah Exalted said

{

إِنَّ اللَّهَ لاَ يَغْفِرُ أَن يُشْرَكَ بِهِ وَيَغْفِرُ مَا دُونَ ذَلِكَ لِمَن يَشَاء وَمَن يُشْرِكْ بِاللَّهِ فَقَدِ افْتَرَى إِثْمًا عَظِيمًا

}

صدق الله العظيم [النساء:48]

Surely Allah does not forgive that anything should be associated with Him, and forgives what is besides that to whomsoever He pleases; and whoever associates anything with Allah, he devises indeed a great sin

[ Al-Nisaa - Surah :4 - Verse :48 ]

O, Muslims many of you believe not in Allah except that you attribute partners (unto Him). O, Christians you went astray from the straight path by praying to Jesus and his mother, so you would call them instead calling Allah (God) associating Jesus and his mother Maria peace be up on both of them with Allah. O Jews for sure you are worshipping devils instead of worshipping Allah (God) while knowing that you’re associating to Him other deities and you know the truth but hate it, let us look into the knowledge of the unseen of the sacred texts of the holy Qur’an to find out whether they will be able to help you or help themselves at all? Allah Most High said

{ احْشُرُوا الَّذِينَ ظَلَمُوا وَأَزْوَاجَهُمْ وَمَا كَانُوا يَعْبُدُونَ ﴿

2

2﴾ مِن دُونِ اللَّـهِ فَاهْدُوهُمْ إِلَىٰ صِرَاطِ الْجَحِيمِ ﴿

2

3﴾ وَقِفُوهُمْ ۖ إِنَّهُم مَّسْئُولُونَ ﴿

2

4﴾ مَا لَكُمْ لَا تَنَاصَرُونَ ﴿

2

5﴾ بَلْ هُمُ الْيَوْمَ مُسْتَسْلِمُونَ

}

صدق الله العظيم, [الصافات]

And it is said unto the angels: Assemble those who did wrong, together with their wives and what they used to worship (22) instead of Allah, and lead them to the path to hell. (23) And stop them, for they must be questioned. (24) "What is the matter with you that you help not each other?” (25) Nay, but this day they make full submission

[ Al-Saffat - Surah :37 - Verses :22-26 ]

I am the Expected Mahdi and do not pretend to know the unknown, I am only speaking to you with the words of He Who knowest in full all that is hidden. I do for sure know that this verse concerns you and you Idols of devils whom you are calling unto instead of Allah and seek refuge by them from Allah’s punishment but they can not even help themselves so how can you expect them to help you, Allah Most Exalted said

{ وَبُرِّزَتِ الْجَحِيمُ لِلْغَاوِينَ ﴿

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1﴾ وَقِيلَ لَهُمْ أَيْنَ مَا كُنتُمْ تَعْبُدُونَ ﴿

9

2﴾ مِن دُونِ اللَّـهِ هَلْ يَنصُرُونَكُمْ أَوْ يَنتَصِرُونَ ﴿

9

3﴾ فَكُبْكِبُوا فِيهَا هُمْ وَالْغَاوُونَ ﴿

9

4﴾ وَجُنُودُ إِبْلِيسَ أَجْمَعُونَ ﴿

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5﴾ قَالُوا وَهُمْ فِيهَا يَخْتَصِمُونَ ﴿

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6﴾ تَاللَّـهِ إِن كُنَّا لَفِي ضَلَالٍ مُّبِينٍ ﴿

9

7﴾ إِذْ نُسَوِّيكُم بِرَبِّ الْعَالَمِينَ ﴿

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8﴾ وَمَا أَضَلَّنَا إِلَّا الْمُجْرِمُونَ

}

صدق الله العظيم, [الشعراء]

And to those straying in Evil, the Fire will be placed in full view (91) And it shall be said to them: "Where are the (gods) you worshiped (92) besides Allah?" Can they help you or help themselves?' (93) Then will they be hurled therein, they and the seducers, (94) and the whole soldiers of Iblis (Satan) together. (95) And they will say, when they are quarrelling therein: (96 ) "By Allah, we were truly in an error manifest, (97) when we held you as equals with the Lord of the Worlds; (98) it was but the guilty who misled us"

Al-Shuara - Surah :26 - Verses :91-99 ]

This verse mentions three groups, the group of those straying in Evil, the group of their people of knowledge and the third group are the Idols whom have been worshipped instead of Allah (God) the devils. First let’s s

hed more light on the group, the ones straying in Evil those are illiterate Jews not aware of the aspects of the matter and the tragic end because they believe in the promises made to them by their people of knowledge (rabis) that they are the winners at the end, that they will be the inheretents. This group can only guess according to what’s been told to them by the people of knowledge of Jews, rabis who are nothing else but evil humans, and I repeat once again those straying in Evil mentioned in this verse are the ignorant (illiterates) ones among Jews who are just guided by what Rabin

tell them to do by promising lies intentionally. Allah Exalted said

{ وَمِنْهُمْ أُمِّيُّونَ لَا يَعْلَمُونَ الْكِتَابَ إِلَّا أَمَانِيَّ وَإِنْ هُمْ إِلَّا يَظُنُّونَ

}

صدق الله العظيم, [البقرة: 78]

Among them are unlettered folk who know the Scripture not except from hearsay. They but guess

[ Al-Baqara - Surah :2 - Verse :78 ]

Meanwhile, the hosts of Iblis (Satan)

are among Jins and human devils whose mission is intentionally to mislead Jews, Christians and Muslims and all mankind. Among human devils are the people of knowledge (rabis) of the Jews fabricating lies about Allah (God) intentionally. They know well the fact that they are telling lies about Allah (God) still they do it, we can not expect this group of people to be corrected so that they go straight because they are not among the group of those straying in Evil nor are misled so that we might hope to point out to them the straight path from the wrong ones

, Allah Most High said concerning them

{ أَفَتَطْمَعُونَ أَن يُؤْمِنُوا لَكُمْ وَقَدْ كَانَ فَرِيقٌ مِّنْهُمْ يَسْمَعُونَ كَلَامَ اللَّـهِ ثُمَّ يُحَرِّفُونَهُ مِن بَعْدِ مَا عَقَلُوهُ وَهُمْ يَعْلَمُونَ

}

صدق الله العظيم [البقرة: 75]

Have you any hope that they will be true to you when a party of them used to listen to the word of Allah, then used to change it, after they had understood it, knowingly?

[ Al-Baqara - Surah :2 - Verse :75

Those are the people of knowledge amongst Jews, some of them came to Muhammad Allah’s Messenger Peace be up on him and his descendants, they said we bear witness there is no other

deity beside Allah and we bear witness that you (Muhammad) are the Messenger of Allah! And Allah bears witness that they are indeed liars, they made their oaths a shelter, and thus turned away from Allah's w

ay; surely evil is that which they did

{ بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم -

إِذَا جَاءَكَ الْمُنَافِقُونَ قَالُوا نَشْهَدُ إِنَّكَ لَرَسُولُ اللَّهِ وَاللَّهُ يَعْلَمُ إِنَّكَ لَرَسُولُهُ وَاللَّهُ يَشْهَدُ إِنَّ الْمُنَافِقِينَ لَكَاذِبُونَ (1) اتَّخَذُوا أَيْمَانَهُمْ جُنَّةً فَصَدُّوا عَن سَبِيلِ اللَّهِ إِنَّهُمْ سَاء مَا كَانُوا يَعْمَلُونَ }

صدق الله العظيم, [المنافقون: 1-2]

When the hypocrites come unto you (O Muhammad), they say: We bear witness that thou art indeed Allah's messenger. And Allah knows that you are indeed His Messenger, and Allah bears witness that the hypocrites indeed are speaking falsely. They make their faith a pretext so that they may turn (men) from the way of Allah. Verily evil is that which they are wont to do

[ Al-Munafiqoon - Surah: 63 - Verses: 1-2 ]

They went under cover of the religion pretend

ing to be believers; Muslims of the time knew that those were among people of knowledge of the Jews therefore considered them to become notorious Muslims of great knowledge due to fact that they knew the Torah and the Qur’an. Muslims at that time thought we can consider them people whom we trust so that we turn to them when needed. They considered them among Prophet’s Hadiths (speeches & behaviour) narrators because they were privileged by knowing the Torah as well as the holy Qur’an! In many Muslims’ view those were light on light therefore they trusted them and took Hadiths they narrated. They became a trustworthy source of Hadith narration with whom Muslims consulted when needed especially because they oft attended the Prophet’s Muhammad (peace be up on him) lectures.Previously, Nasser Muhammad Al Yemeni has already explained to you that this group of people (once they leave the

prophet Muhammad's PBUH lectures) they would immediately start fabricating other Hadiths in place of the prophet’s Hadiths so that they narrate them instead. They would narrate Hadiths which never have been told by Muhammad (Allah’s prophet PBUH). Also, as mentioned previously, this category of people is in a close relation with Jins /Devils and in fact had them within themselves, meaning they were two spirits in one body, except the devils would not cause them any harm nor would they cause them to get ill ( as is the case with normal human beings who are not their allies), such a case is considered a test caused by Allah (God). But in the case of hypocrites among the Jews, they (jins) dont harm them because they consider them close allies. At the same time we know that the Qur’an (Allah’s words) burns the devils inside the body of Jewish rabis attending the lectures of Allah’s messenger Muhammad PBUH. Because during his lectures Prophet Muhammad PBUH, would ask some of his companions to recite some Qur’anic verses until he would ask him to stop! Then he would explain to his companions the Qur’an verses in words. But if some of the companions had looked into the face of any of the Jewish people of knowledge present at the lecture, he would have immediately noticed an evil change in their faces during Qur’an recitation and would have recognised them easily because the devils inside them would burn by the light of the words of the sacred verses of the holy Qur’an. The truth seekers among the companions used to look into their master’s and teacher’s (Muhammad Allah’s Prophet PBUH) face. Therefore, no one amongst them could notice the evil change which occurred in the faces of the Jews, with a fake faith. But Allah’s Messenger the Prophet Muhammad PBUH was sitting in a way to face all the truth seekers present, that way he could see and could recognize the evil change in the faces of the hypocrites (the so called people of knowledge of the Jews) to a point where it seems they are about to attack the ones reciting the Qur’anic verses during lectures. The reason for the changes in their faces is that the light in the Allah’s words the Qur’an burns the devils which are in their bodies causing the Jews great discomfort and a lot of anger inside to a point where they would jump and attack the one reciting the Qur’an verses, therefore Allah Most High

said

{ وَإِذَا تُتْلَى عَلَيْهِمْ آياتنَا بَيِّنَاتٍ تَعْرِفُ فِي وُجُوهِ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا الْمُنكَرَ يَكَادُونَ يَسْطُونَ بِالَّذِينَ يَتْلُونَ عَلَيْهِمْ آياتنَا قُلْ أَفَأُنَبِّئُكُم بِشَرٍّ مِّن ذَلِكُمُ النَّارُ وَعَدَهَا اللَّهُ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا وَبِئْسَ الْمَصِيرُ }

صدق الله العظيم, [الحج:72]

And when Our revelations are recited unto them, thou knowest the denial in the faces of those who disbelieve; they all but attack those who recite Our revelations unto them. Say: Shall I proclaim unto you worse than that? The Fire! Allah hath promised it for those who disbelieve. A hapless journey's end

[ Al-Hajj - Surah :22 - Verse :72]

The meaning of:

(And when Our revelations are recited unto them,):

those are the ones reciting Qur’an verses during a lecture by Allah’s Messenger Muhammad PBUH until he asks him to stop reciting in order for him to explain the meaning of the verse as ordered by Allah in His saying

{ وَأَنزَلْنَا إِلَيْكَ الذِّكْرَ لِتُبَيِّنَ لِلنَّاسِ مَا نُزِّلَ إِلَيْهِمْ وَلَعَلَّهُمْ يَتَفَكَّرُونَ }

صدق الله العظيم [النحل: 44]

With clear proofs and writings; and We have revealed unto thee the Remembrance that thou mayst explain to mankind that which hath been revealed for them, and that haply they may reflect

[ Al-Nahil - Surah :16 - Verse :44 ]

The meaning of:

(thou knowest the denial in the faces of those who disbelieve; they all but attack those who recite Our revelations unto them)

is that the

Messenger of Allah

Muhammad PBUH would recognize

denial in the faces of those pretending to be believers on the surface

(though unfaithful inside) among the presenthypocritical Jews, because the Messenger of Allah Muhammad PBUH would be facing the crowd and

could look into their faces during the reciting of the Qur’anic verses thus recognising evil in the human evil hypocrites while their faces change during someone reciting Qur’an to a point they could attack the one reciting, but they try to control their nerves and keep anger inside in patience so that no one would discover their truth. So they withstand the burning within them b

y the Qur’an. The meaning of

Say: Shall I proclaim unto you worse than that? The Fire! Allah hath promised it for those who disbelieve. A hapless journey's end

Oh, Muhammad tell them between you and them

(Say: Shall I proclaim unto you worse than that? The Fire! Allah hath promised it for those who disbelieve. A hapless journey's end!)

Some of you would like to interrupt me and might ask: how would it be possible for Muhammad PBUH to be in privacy with them so that he may say to them tho

se words? Why wouldn’t he tell them that in front of all then ask them to leave? The answer is: Muhammad

PBUH

, Messenger of Allah, did not disclose them and never

did

ask them to leave according to the

commands of

Allah that he has to keep clear of them and not to make their affair publicly known as stated in the sacred ve

rse

{ وَيَقُولُونَ طَاعَةٌ فَإِذَا بَرَزُوا مِنْ عِندِكَ بَيَّتَ طَائِفَةٌ مِّنْهُمْ غَيْرَ الَّذِي تَقُولُ ۖ وَاللَّـهُ يَكْتُبُ مَا يُبَيِّتُونَ ۖ فَأَعْرِضْ عَنْهُمْ وَتَوَكَّلْ عَلَى اللَّـهِ ۚ وَكَفَىٰ بِاللَّـهِ وَكِيلًا ﴿

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1

﴾ أَفَلَا يَتَدَبَّرُونَ الْقُرْآنَ ۚ وَلَوْ كَانَ مِنْ عِندِ غَيْرِ اللَّـهِ لَوَجَدُوا فِيهِ اخْتِلَافًا كَثِيرًا

}

صدق الله العظيم, [النساء: 81-82]

And they say: obedience; but when they have gone forth from thee a party of them spend the night in planning other than what thou sayest. Allah recordeth what they plan by night. Therefore turn aside from them and put thy trust in Allah. Allah is sufficient as Trustee.

Do they

(believers)

not contemplate/consider the Qur'an

(carefully)

? If it

(each 'plot')

was from other than Allah, they (Muslims) will surely find therein much contradiction/ discrepancy

(many differences between the 'plot' and what is in the Qur'an)

.

82 -Al-Nisaa - Surah: 4 - Verses: 81 ]

Some of you might want to interrupt me asking: Why did Allah order His Messenger to turn aside from them and not ask them to leave and never to come back? If not, does Allah accept that they would mislead true Muslims ? Our answer would be: Not at all, Allah is not pleased with ingratitude of His servants but He wants to put them to the test in order to distinguish those who will follow strictly His commandments in the holy Qur’an and his Messenger’s speeches (which are surely not contradictory to the holy Qur’an, but

explain the Quranic verses and make them clear) from those who would be steadfast to Hadiths which are contradictory to the commandments of Allah, and His Messenger’s (PBUH) Hadiths. The latter are the ones who went astray from the commandments of Allah (as stated in the sacred Qur’an) and from the Behaviour of His Messenger. Knowing that the prophet’s behaviour (speeches& deeds) is only meant to serve as a living practical example of the commandments of Allah (from the holy Qur’an) adding to them more transparency and practical explanation, it would be mean ing less if the behaviour of the servant is contradictory or in opposition to the commandments as stated

{ وَلَوْ تَقَوَّلَ عَلَيْنَا بَعْضَ الْأَقَاوِيلِ ﴿

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4﴾ لَأَخَذْنَا مِنْهُ بِالْيَمِينِ ﴿

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5﴾ ثُمَّ لَقَطَعْنَا مِنْهُ الْوَتِينَ

}

صدق الله العظيم, [الحاقة: 44-46]

And if the messenger were to invent any sayings in Our name, (44) We should certainly seize him by his right hand, (45) and We should certainly then cut off the artery of his heart

[ 46-Al-Ha'qa - Surah: 69 - Verses: 44]

Now, after having explained to you the reason for which Muhammad

PBUH the Messenger of Allah , did not ask them (the hypocrites who plot) to leave I also explained to you the wisdom Allah had in ordering not to ask them to leave, where from we shall go back to the same verse we were discussing and continue its explanation. It is the story of human devils that used to be present at the Messenger Muhammad’s lectures, they would tell the truth, which was mentioned in the Torah, and not hide anything of it in front of Allah’s Messenger Muhammad PBUH, so that Mohammad PBUH will be pleased with what they say and so that the prophet’s companions trust them. That was before Allah unravelled their affair to His Messenger Muhammad PBUH, who was impressed by their words and thought they were lawful; but so convincing were they that when they go apart to their devils, the devils within them would blame them so they declare: Lo! We are with you; verily we did but mock. Their devils would blame them for having told the truth, therefore Allah Sublime said

{ وَإِذَا لَقُوا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا قَالُوا آمَنَّا وَإِذَا خَلَا بَعْضُهُمْ إِلَىٰ بَعْضٍ قَالُوا أَتُحَدِّثُونَهُم بِمَا فَتَحَ اللَّـهُ عَلَيْكُمْ لِيُحَاجُّوكُم بِهِ عِندَ رَبِّكُمْ ۚ أَفَلَا تَعْقِلُونَ

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صدق الله العظيم, [البقرة: 76]

And when they fall in with those who believe, they say: We believe. But when they go apart one with another they say: Say ye to them of that which Allah hath disclosed to you that they may contend with you before your Lord concerning it? Have ye then no sense?

[ Al-Baqara - Surah: 2 - Verses: 76

Notice that human devils are best at plotting than Jins devils, therefore they replied to them that they have wisdom behind telling truth which aims at winning the trust of Muslims. Once they are trusted then they pass to action by fabricating incorrect Hadiths (Speeches) which they had planned in mind before. May Allah makethem accountable for their evil deeds, and they did succeed in causing you to go astray from the righteous path! Let’s now go back to the Qur’an verse we started before, Almighty Allah saying

{ وَبُرِّزَتِ الْجَحِيمُ لِلْغَاوِينَ ﴿

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1﴾ وَقِيلَ لَهُمْ أَيْنَ مَا كُنتُمْ تَعْبُدُونَ ﴿

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2﴾ مِن دُونِ اللَّـهِ هَلْ يَنصُرُونَكُمْ أَوْ يَنتَصِرُونَ ﴿

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3﴾ فَكُبْكِبُوا فِيهَا هُمْ وَالْغَاوُونَ ﴿

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4﴾ وَجُنُودُ إِبْلِيسَ أَجْمَعُونَ ﴿

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5﴾ قَالُوا وَهُمْ فِيهَا يَخْتَصِمُونَ ﴿

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6﴾ تَاللَّـهِ إِن كُنَّا لَفِي ضَلَالٍ مُّبِينٍ ﴿

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7﴾ إِذْ نُسَوِّيكُم بِرَبِّ الْعَالَمِينَ ﴿

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8﴾ وَمَا أَضَلَّنَا إِلَّا الْمُجْرِمُونَ

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صدق الله العظيم, [الشعراء]

And to those straying in Evil, the Fire will be placed in full view (91) And it shall be said to them: "Where are the (gods) you worshiped (92) besides Allah?" Can they help you or help themselves?' (93) Then will they be hurled therein, they and the seducers, (94) and the whole soldiers of Iblis (Satan) together. (95) And they will say, when they are quarrelling therein: (96 ) "By Allah, we were truly in an error manifest, (97) when we held you as equals with the Lord of the Worlds; (98) it was but the guilty who misled us"

Al-Shuara - Surah :26 - Verses :90-99 ]

The meaning of

{ قَالُوا وَهُمْ فِيهَا يَخْتَصِمُونَ ﴿

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6﴾ تَاللَّـهِ إِن كُنَّا لَفِي ضَلَالٍ مُّبِينٍ ﴿

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7﴾ إِذْ نُسَوِّيكُم بِرَبِّ الْعَالَمِينَ ﴿

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8﴾}

And they will say, when they are quarrelling therein: (96 ) "By Allah, we were truly in an error manifest, (97) when we held you as equals with the Lord of the Worlds; (98) it was but the guilty who misled us"

And the exact meaning of

"it was but the guilty who misled us"

they mean their rabis, because they followed them while they told them lies and made them false promises that they are the winners and the inheritants, so beware Jews we have informed of what is expected in the future so that you may avoid this sad end and follow me then I will surely lead you on the right path. Say: There is no other deity beside Allah and that Muhammad is His Messenger and that you make no difference between any of all Allah’s Messengers. Convert to Islam then worship only Allah (God) and not associate anything with Him, then you will avoid His punishment and He will guide you on the right path and grant you a high reward, as stated in Allah Exalted saying

{ أَلَمْ تَرَ إِلَى الَّذِينَ يَزْعُمُونَ أَنَّهُمْ آمَنُوا بِمَا أُنزِلَ إِلَيْكَ وَمَا أُنزِلَ مِن قَبْلِكَ يُرِيدُونَ أَن يَتَحَاكَمُوا إِلَى الطَّاغُوتِ وَقَدْ أُمِرُوا أَن يَكْفُرُوا بِهِ وَيُرِيدُ الشَّيْطَانُ أَن يُضِلَّهُمْ ضَلَالًا بَعِيدًا ﴿

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0﴾ وَإِذَا قِيلَ لَهُمْ تَعَالَوْا إِلَىٰ مَا أَنزَلَ اللَّـهُ وَإِلَى الرَّسُولِ رَأَيْتَ الْمُنَافِقِينَ يَصُدُّونَ عَنكَ صُدُودًا ﴿

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1﴾ فَكَيْفَ إِذَا أَصَابَتْهُم مُّصِيبَةٌ بِمَا قَدَّمَتْ أَيْدِيهِمْ ثُمَّ جَاءُوكَ يَحْلِفُونَ بِاللَّـهِ إِنْ أَرَدْنَا إِلَّا إِحْسَانًا وَتَوْفِيقًا ﴿

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2﴾ أُولَـٰئِكَ الَّذِينَ يَعْلَمُ اللَّـهُ مَا فِي قُلُوبِهِمْ فَأَعْرِضْ عَنْهُمْ وَعِظْهُمْ وَقُل لَّهُمْ فِي أَنفُسِهِمْ قَوْلًا بَلِيغًا ﴿

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3﴾ وَمَا أَرْسَلْنَا مِن رَّسُولٍ إِلَّا لِيُطَاعَ بِإِذْنِ اللَّـهِ ۚ وَلَوْ أَنَّهُمْ إِذ ظَّلَمُوا أَنفُسَهُمْ جَاءُوكَ فَاسْتَغْفَرُوا اللَّـهَ وَاسْتَغْفَرَ لَهُمُ الرَّسُولُ لَوَجَدُوا اللَّـهَ تَوَّابًا رَّحِيمًا ﴿

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4﴾ فَلَا وَرَبِّكَ لَا يُؤْمِنُونَ حَتَّىٰ يُحَكِّمُوكَ فِيمَا شَجَرَ بَيْنَهُمْ ثُمَّ لَا يَجِدُوا فِي أَنفُسِهِمْ حَرَجًا مِّمَّا قَضَيْتَ وَيُسَلِّمُوا تَسْلِيمًا ﴿

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5﴾ وَلَوْ أَنَّا كَتَبْنَا عَلَيْهِمْ أَنِ اقْتُلُوا أَنفُسَكُمْ أَوِ اخْرُجُوا مِن دِيَارِكُم مَّا فَعَلُوهُ إِلَّا قَلِيلٌ مِّنْهُمْ ۖ وَلَوْ أَنَّهُمْ فَعَلُوا مَا يُوعَظُونَ بِهِ لَكَانَ خَيْرًا لَّهُمْ وَأَشَدَّ تَثْبِيتًا ﴿

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6﴾ وَإِذًا لَّآتَيْنَاهُم مِّن لَّدُنَّا أَجْرًا عَظِيمًا ﴿

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7﴾ وَلَهَدَيْنَاهُمْ صِرَاطًا مُّسْتَقِيمًا ﴿

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8﴾ وَمَن يُطِعِ اللَّـهَ وَالرَّسُولَ فَأُولَـٰئِكَ مَعَ الَّذِينَ أَنْعَمَ اللَّـهُ عَلَيْهِم مِّنَ النَّبِيِّينَ وَالصِّدِّيقِينَ وَالشُّهَدَاءِ وَالصَّالِحِينَ ۚ وَحَسُنَ أُولَـٰئِكَ رَفِيقًا

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صدق الله العظيم, [النساء: 60-69]

Have you not seen those who pretend that they believe in that which is revealed unto you and that which was revealed before you, how they would go for judgment (in their disputes) to false deities when they have been ordered to abjure them? Satan would mislead them far astray. And when it is said unto them: Come unto that which Allah Has revealed and unto the messenger, you see the hypocrites turn from you with aversion. How would it be if a misfortune smote them because of that which their own hands have sent before (them)? Then would they come unto you, swearing by Allah that they were seeking naught but harmony and kindness. Those are they, the secrets of whose hearts Allah knows. So oppose them and admonish them, and address them in plain terms about their souls. We sent no messenger save that he should be obeyed by Allah's leave. And if, when they had wronged themselves, they had but come unto you and asked forgiveness of Allah, and asked forgiveness of the messenger, they would have found Allah forgiving and merciful. But nay, by your Lord, they will not believe (in truth) until they make you judge of what is in dispute between them and find within themselves no dislike of that which you decides, and submit with full submission. And if We had decreed for them:

If We had ordered them to sacrifice their lives or to leave their homes (fighting in the cause of Allah), very few of them would have done it:

though if they did what they are exhorted to do it would be better for them, and more strengthening; And then We should bestow upon them from Our presence an immense reward, And should guide them unto a straight path. Whoso obeys Allah and the messenger, they are with those unto whom Allah has shown favour, of the prophets and the saints and the martyrs and the righteous. The best of company are they

[surah: 4 - Al-Nisaa - Verses: 60- 69]

O ye Christian people let us see what is going to happen to you in the unseen world of the future and what would be the end of your exam of life on earth if you persist and continue calling on Jesus Christ and his mother Maria instead of calling Allah, let us see in the sacred texts of the holy Qur’an what Allah (God) Most Exalted did say

{وَإِذْ قَالَ اللَّـهُ يَا عِيسَى ابْنَ مَرْيَمَ أَأَنتَ قُلْتَ لِلنَّاسِ اتَّخِذُونِي وَأُمِّيَ إِلَـٰهَيْنِ مِن دُونِ اللَّـهِ ۖ قَالَ سُبْحَانَكَ مَا يَكُونُ لِي أَنْ أَقُولَ مَا لَيْسَ لِي بِحَقٍّ ۚ إِن كُنتُ قُلْتُهُ فَقَدْ عَلِمْتَهُ ۚ تَعْلَمُ مَا فِي نَفْسِي وَلَا أَعْلَمُ مَا فِي نَفْسِكَ ۚ إِنَّكَ أَنتَ عَلَّامُ الْغُيُوبِ ﴿

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16﴾ مَا قُلْتُ لَهُمْ إِلَّا مَا أَمَرْتَنِي بِهِ أَنِ اعْبُدُوا اللَّـهَ رَبِّي وَرَبَّكُمْ ۚ وَكُنتُ عَلَيْهِمْ شَهِيدًا مَّا دُمْتُ فِيهِمْ ۖ فَلَمَّا تَوَفَّيْتَنِي كُنتَ أَنتَ الرَّقِيبَ عَلَيْهِمْ ۚ وَأَنتَ عَلَىٰ كُلِّ شَيْءٍ شَهِيدٌ ﴿

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17﴾ إِن تُعَذِّبْهُمْ فَإِنَّهُمْ عِبَادُكَ ۖ وَإِن تَغْفِرْ لَهُمْ فَإِنَّكَ أَنتَ الْعَزِيزُ الْحَكِيمُ ﴿

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18﴾ قَالَ اللَّـهُ هَـٰذَا يَوْمُ يَنفَعُ

الصَّادِقِينَ صِدْقُهُمْ لَهُمْ جَنَّاتٌ تَجْرِي مِن تَحْتِهَا الأَنْهَارُ خَالِدِينَ فِيهَا أَبَدًا رَّضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُمْ وَرَضُواْ عَنْهُ ذَلِكَ الْفَوْزُ الْعَظِيمُ

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صدق الله العظيم, [المائدة: 116-119 ]

And behold! Allah will say: "O Jesus the son of Mary! Did you say unto men, worship me and my mother as gods in derogation of Allah?" He will say: "Glory to You! Never could I say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing, You would indeed have known it. You know what is in my heart/mind, I know not what is in Yours. For You know in full all that is hidden. "Never said I to them aught except what You did command me to say: 'worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord'; and I was a witness over them whilst I was amongst them. When You did take me up, You were the Watcher over them, and You are a witness to all things. "If You punish them, they are your servant. If You forgive them, You are the Exalted in power, the Wise." Allah will say: "This is a day on which the truthful will profit from their truth: theirs are gardens, with rivers flowing beneath, their eternal Home: Allah is well-pleased with them, and they with Allah: That is the great salvation, (the fulfilment of all desires)

[Al-Ma'eda - Surah: 5 - Verses:

116-119

O ye Christians follow me, I will for sure guide you on the Straight path! Then Allah (God) will reward you enormously and He shall forgive you all your sins for He is all forgiving Most Gracious! O ye Muslims, most of you believe not in Allah except that you attribute partners (unto Him) among His righteous servants, so do not ever call on Muhammad Messenger of Allah, or like some ignorant ones would call O ye Muhammad rescue me or O ye Ali … this will cause you to deserve Allah’s (God) punishment after which none would rescue you nor would anybody help you. Neither Muhammad peace be up on him and his descendants or anybody else from his purified family members can help you avoid Allah’s punishment save Allah Most High Himself! Especially you Group of twelve Imams Shi’a, most of you call on the members of the purified family of Prophet Muhammad PBUH save a small minority who do not, so obey and follow me I will for sure guide you on the right path. O ye Muslim people from the various Sects and groups, you disobeyed Allah’s commandments by dividingyourselves into smaller groups with different orientations and views, each group is glad with what they own. Obey me and let me guide you to the Straight way to be your fair judge so that I will inspire the just verdict for matters you disagree on from the sacred Qur’an texts, and who else but Allah is to be Most Fair and Judge? In case you won’t then you are like those mentioned in the verse

{ أَلَمْ تَرَ إِلَى الَّذِينَ يَزْعُمُونَ أَنَّهُمْ آمَنُوا بِمَا أُنزِلَ إِلَيْكَ وَمَا أُنزِلَ مِن قَبْلِكَ يُرِيدُونَ أَن يَتَحَاكَمُوا إِلَى الطَّاغُوتِ وَقَدْ أُمِرُوا أَن يَكْفُرُوا بِهِ وَيُرِيدُ الشَّيْطَانُ أَن يُضِلَّهُمْ ضَلَالًا بَعِيدًا

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صدق الله العظيم, [النساء: 60]

Have you not seen those who pretend that they believe in that which is revealed unto you and that which was revealed before you, how they would go for judgment (in their disputes) to false deities when they have been ordered to abjure them? Satan would mislead them far astray

[60 :Al-Nisaa - Surah: 4 - Verses ]

The Expected Mahdi, supporter of Muhammad Messenger of Allah and Jesus Son of Maria and all the rest of the group of Allah’s Messengers and prophets, I make no difference between His Messengers and I verily submit myself to Allah (Being Muslim). Imam Nasser Muhammad Al Yemeni

[mrbasserby]

so what imam mahdi saying is all religions had been distorted by those who dont want you to know the truth and they do it from thousand of years until now thats why we disagree each other and the fact is we all choosed the wrong sides ..

Edited April 30, 2013 by mrbasserby

[mrbasserby]

ppl you must understand that true enemies they knew what are the true religions and they believe in it but they mannaged to hide it from us for very long time ..

Edited April 30, 2013 by mrbasserby

[Coffey]

Time will tell what they use their "gun" for in future. I have every confidence that they will be at least as threatening as NK has been. And NK doesn't sit astride a choke point for a major portion of the world's oil supply.

No but NK doesn't have a Rothschild/banking cartel central bank either. That's a lot of money that they can make right there. Bankers will be sweating knowing their is unslaved countries.

Edited April 30, 2013 by Coffey

[Sir Wearer of Hats]

but how you can be sure if this commands from god i will jump with you if i know for sure that god asked me to do it

why do you think I'm asking him his reasons first?

[mrbasserby]

i still got more informations who ever want it but i want you guys to be mind opened and wised judgements cause its not going to be easy for first time and i really hops that actually you will read what i post it from imam mahdi and trully understand because i know the quran translation is some way hard to understand for non arab talkers if you have any questions about it i would be more than happy to answer it ..

[mrbasserby]

ok as for now i told you the real reason why we are disagree in religions and now its the time to expose who is the real enemies that were mislead us all for so long time as i told you before there is secret organisation they were responsible for most of corruption in this world like wars and religions distort and the leaders of this organisation has also enormous powers influence in governments,media , banks systems , you name it all over the world the same organisation who trying to unite nations with new world orders (NWO)

to prepare the world for the last appearance of antichrist but of course he will not say he is antichrist but he will claim that he is Jesus and the Judgment day has come but the question may asked how could such organisation earn such kind of powers and stay for so long time ?

and the answer is becuse whoever control this secert organisation is not normal person .. in fact he is not even a a human being !!

thats right i told you before you need to be opend mind cause it's not going to be logical for first time..

god warn us in quran for many times about the greatest evil on earth allah said in quran :

يَا بَنِي آدَمَ لَا يَفْتِنَنَّكُمُ الشَّيْطَانُ كَمَا أَخْرَجَ أَبَوَيْكُم مِّنَ الْجَنَّةِ يَنزِعُ عَنْهُمَا لِبَاسَهُمَا لِيُرِيَهُمَا سَوْآتِهِمَا ۗ إِنَّهُ يَرَاكُمْ هُوَ وَقَبِيلُهُ مِنْ حَيْثُ لَا تَرَوْنَهُمْ ۗ إِنَّا جَعَلْنَا الشَّيَاطِينَ أَوْلِيَاءَ لِلَّذِينَ لَا يُؤْمِنُونَ [٧:٢٧]

O ye Children of Adam! Let not Satan seduce you, in the same manner as He got your parents out of the Garden , stripping them of their raiment, to expose their shame: for he and his tribe watch you from a position where ye cannot see them: We made the evil ones friends (only) to those without faith.

so allah (god) warned about this evil and told us they see you from place that you connot see them what this is mean ??

if god only said in quran that satan is seeing you in place that you can not see him that would mean maybe he has powers to disspear or hides but no he said satan and his tribe

and his tribe not just demons or just evil spirit but also he has wicked humans and mixed race which they follow and worship him but if thats true how could not be able to see them ??

this is what the most ppl dont know but the suprise is the quran mentioned it many times but unfortunately even muslims didn't realize and understand it because the twisted explanations of quran over hundred of years . god said in quran about hidden place or location on earth :

يَقُولُونَ أَإِنَّا لَمَرْدُودُونَ فِي الْحَافِرَةِ [٧٩:١٠]

They say (now): "What! shall we indeed be returned to (our) former state ? ﴿١٠﴾

أَإِذَا كُنَّا عِظَامًا نَّخِرَةً [٧٩:١١]

"What! - when we shall have become rotten bones?" ﴿١١﴾

قَالُوا تِلْكَ إِذًا كَرَّةٌ خَاسِرَةٌ [٧٩:١٢]

They say: "It would, in that case, be a return with loss!(loss if they not follow the right path after they resurrect from grave) ﴿١٢﴾

فَإِنَّمَا هِيَ زَجْرَةٌ وَاحِدَةٌ [٧٩:١٣]

But verily, it will be but a single (Compelling) Cry, ﴿١٣﴾

فَإِذَا هُم بِالسَّاهِرَةِ [٧٩:١٤]

When, behold, they will be in the (full) awakening place .(the place where the sunlight dont disappear)

so god told us about the place on earth that the light of the sun dont disspear and we all know there is no such place as we learned but the truth is there is ..

to be continued

peace to you all ..

Edited April 30, 2013 by mrbasserby

[keithisco]

This entire thread is why I am an atheist / Humanist....Sick to death of all the Abrahammic religions telling me that I cant understand their viewpoint because I "dont truly believe"!! Damned right I dont believe!! Much more has been achieved when the Shackles of organised religion has been removed from around our necks. I dont need any Imam, Preacher, or Rabbi telling me what to think... I observe the basic humanitarian edicts of care and restraint that NONE of these idiotic religions espouses.

In fact, the best thing ever would be to collect ALL Bibles, Talmud (Torahs), and Qu-Ran, torch them and tell all of their followers to "GROW UP", and start talking to bring about a Peace based on Human Need, not on Orthodoxy.... Simples!!

Edited April 30, 2013 by keithisco

[+and-then]

This entire thread is why I am an atheist / Humanist....Sick to death of all the Abrahammic religions telling me that I cant understand their viewpoint because I "dont truly believe"!! Damned right I dont believe!! Much more has been achieved when the Shackles of organised religion has been removed from around our necks. I dont need any Imam, Preacher, or Rabbi telling me what to think... I observe the basic humanitarian edicts of care and restraint that NONE of these idiotic religions espouses.

In fact, the best thing ever would be to collect ALL Bibles, Talmud (Torahs), and Qu-Ran, torch them and tell all of their followers to "GROW UP", and start talking to bring about a Peace based on Human Need, not on Orthodoxy.... Simples!!

IOW simply act as if human nature doesn't exist. Yeah, that's the ticket! I'm sure no one's tried that before...

[mrbasserby]

This entire thread is why I am an atheist / Humanist....Sick to death of all the Abrahammic religions telling me that I cant understand their viewpoint because I "dont truly believe"!! Damned right I dont believe!! Much more has been achieved when the Shackles of organised religion has been removed from around our necks. I dont need any Imam, Preacher, or Rabbi telling me what to think... I observe the basic humanitarian edicts of care and restraint that NONE of these idiotic religions espouses.

In fact, the best thing ever would be to collect ALL Bibles, Talmud (Torahs), and Qu-Ran, torch them and tell all of their followers to "GROW UP", and start talking to bring about a Peace based on Human Need, not on Orthodoxy.... Simples!!

Allah (god) said in quran :

وَالَّذِينَ جَاهَدُوا فِينَا لَنَهْدِيَنَّهُمْ سُبُلَنَا ۚ وَإِنَّ اللَّهَ لَمَعَ الْمُحْسِنِينَ [٢٩:٦٩]

And those who strive in Our (cause),- We will certainly guide them to our Paths: For verily Allah is with those who do right.

in meaning those who strive to find the truth for sure god will guide them to the truthful ways in other words they will find it .

if you really want the truth you must strive and use your mind becuse not every one deserve to be guided if they dont do extra offer to seek for it ..

as i said before some ppl like you reach a level of the truth that they can't handle it anymore so you decided to choose being atheist and in return god guided you in this way you want ...

Edited April 30, 2013 by mrbasserby

[Frank Merton]

"Allah is with those who do right" That's great, except everybody thinks that is them, and it can't be.

[mrbasserby]

"Allah is with those who do right" That's great, except everybody thinks that is them, and it can't be.

Allah said :

وَمَا يَتَّبِعُ أَكْثَرُهُمْ إِلَّا ظَنًّا ۚ إِنَّ الظَّنَّ لَا يُغْنِي مِنَ الْحَقِّ شَيْئًا ۚ إِنَّ اللَّهَ عَلِيمٌ بِمَا يَفْعَلُونَ [١٠:٣٦]

But most of them follow nothing but fancy: truly fancy can be of no avail against truth. Verily Allah is well aware of all that they do.

[Frank Merton]

Well the problem remains; sure Allah is well aware, but humans aren't.