Merged - FBI Kills Tamerlan Tsarnaev Acquaintance

[Lilly]

Go outside and leave a backpack on the sidewalk.

Super bad idea there.

[FLOMBIE]

Leg.

Foot.

Arm.

Hand.

?????

Nah, you could hit an artery, which would result in a pretty fast death. It also has a lot to do with the caliber you are using; you could blow the whole limp off. If you shoot at someone, expect him to die.

[aztek]

The thing is, if one chooses to attack a law enforcement agent the outcome may very well be your own death.

what if he attacks and you defend agains him, you are also in the wrong???

[aztek]

Ibragim Todashev, the man shot and killed during an interview with FBI agents late Tuesday, reportedly confessed to being involved in a 2011 triple murder that the Boston Marathon bombing suspects have been linked to, investigators told NBC News.

Todashev, 27, allegedly attacked an FBI agent with a knife right before he was about to sign a written statement based on his confession. The agent shot and killed Todashev during the confrontation.

[Sweetpumper]

allegedly attacked an FBI agent with a knife right before he was about to sign a written statement based on his confession. The agent shot and killed Todashev during the confrontation.

There you go.

[Dark_Grey]

Ibragim Todashev, the man shot and killed during an interview with FBI agents late Tuesday, reportedly confessed to being involved in a 2011 triple murder that the Boston Marathon bombing suspects have been linked to, investigators told NBC News.

Todashev, 27, allegedly attacked an FBI agent with a knife right before he was about to sign a written statement based on his confession. The agent shot and killed Todashev during the confrontation.

FBI Agent: "Sign this confession or I'll blast you in the face!"

Suspect: "No!"

*blasts him in the face*

*FBI Agent calls head office*

FBI Agent: "He didn't sign the confession. He left a bit of a mess."

Voice on phone: "His loss. We'll tell the press he came at you with a knife. Good work."

I watch a lot of movies...

Edited May 22, 2013 by Dark_Grey

[Kowalski]

Some information on that 2011 Triple Murder being linked to them:

Graphic, Perplexing Triple Murder on a Dead-End Street

The savage 2011 murders unfolded on a quiet dead-end street on a balmy night.

Mess and his friends, Erik Weissman, 31, and Raphael Teken, 37, had ordered dinner from Gerry's Italian Kitchen at 8:54 p.m., but when a delivery woman arrived twenty minutes later there was no answer at the door and no one answered a call to Weissman's cell phone, from which the order was placed.

The bodies were discovered the next day. Former Middlesex District Attorney Gerry Leone said at the time that the murders were "graphic." Other investigators called it perplexing.

Roughly seven pounds of marijuana was dumped on the bodies and $5,000 in cash was left behind. Neighbors said they did not hear any signs of trouble – even with open windows – and there was no forced entry. In a 2011 interview, Leone said investigators theorized there had been more than one person at the scene of the murders based on "many factors," but no suspects were identified.

From there the case went cold, until photos of the Boston Marathon suspects were released and family and friends of the Waltham victims recognized them and remembered Tamerlan's strange behavior after the murders. He did not attend his friend's funeral and vanished from the martial arts gyms where the men had sparred together.

Then, Gerry's Italian Kitchen became a focal point again on April 24, nine days after the Marathon bombing, after investigators removed two Planet Aid charity donation bins from a parking lot it shares with a neighboring grocer. A driver had discovered discarded fireworks inside and law enforcement sources told ABC News the gunpowder had been removed from the cartridges.

It is unclear how the Tsarnaev brothers were associated with Gerry's Italian Kitchen, if at all, but looking back, multiple residents of Waltham and Watertown remember Tamerlan Tsarnaev delivering food to their homes and Tsarnaev family members have told reporters the brothers worked as pizza deliverymen. The eatery's management, however, steadfastly denied that either Tsarnaev brother worked there.

Scott Wood, a jiu jitsui trainer who befriended and trained Mess at a martial arts studio in Vermont, said he always believed whoever the killer or killers were, they got in Mess' home "under the guise of being a friend."

"Brendan was a tough, tough kid, a strong kid. It wouldn't have been easy to take him out like that," Wood told ABC News.

Wood and other friends met Tamerlan with Mess at a June 2011 fight event. Mess introduced Tamerlan as "Tam" but fighters also recognized him from his Golden Glove victories and called him "Champ." Tamerlan did not drink and was very quiet that night.

That was the last time Wood saw his friend alive.

Taken from http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/mounting-evidence-boston-bombers-involved-2011-triple-murder/story?id=19151271&page=2#.UZ0Lq9jheWs

Todashev and Tamerlan Tsarnaev both fought mixed martial arts in the name of Boston's Wai Kru gym, where one of the 2011 triple murder victims, Brendan Mess, also trained, according to law enforcement officials.

According to officials, Todashev was initially being questioned about any role in the marathon bombing when it emerged he had connections to the gruesome murder. There is no indication Todashev was tied to the bombing, sources familiar with the case said.

In the wake of the bombing, detectives developed DNA evidence linking both Tamerlan Tsarnaev and his younger brother Dzhokhar to the triple murder scene.

The three men who were killed had their throats slit and their bodies were left with cash and marijuana placed on top of them. The murder took place on September 11, 2011, the ten year anniversary of the al Qaeda terror attacks on New York and Washington.

Also killed with Mess were Raffael Teken and Eric Weissman. A spokesperson for the Middlesex County district attorney, which is handling the triple murder investigation, declined to make any official statement.

Taken from http://gma.yahoo.com/fbi-shoots-florida-man-linked-160715309.html

This whole thing doesn't make any sense to me really.....

[aztek]

7 pounds of weed, that was not casual smoker, or even someone that smokes daily, 7lb is a dealer territory. may be older brother didn't like the fact that drug dealers were hanging around with his little brother. so he killed them. may be younger one didn't want to listen to older bro, and kept hanging out with them.

the weed and money all over are clear sign that is was not a robbery, and the motive was drugs.

Edited May 22, 2013 by aztek

[Rafterman]

Shooting to defend and shooting to kill are different.

Pro gunners seem to have a problem getting that one.

As do anti-gunners.

[Clarakore]

The introduction of the knife in this story is drawing my skepticism out.

Could it have been planted on the suspect?

[Sweetpumper]

The introduction of the knife in this story is drawing my skepticism out.

Could it have been planted on the suspect?

Sure, why not.

[AlnilamPhiSiriusly]

The medical examiners office has ruled Ibragim Todashev's death a homucide

Ibragim Todashev unarmed when FBI killed him – Todashev was shot seven times – once in the back of the head, execution style

Demands for a civil rights investigation

[ali smack]

it does seem fishy why they killed him. I am assuming he either was armed and tried to kill the agents or he knew something that they didn't want let out so they offed him

[Dark_Grey]

Ibragim Todashev unarmed when FBI killed him – Todashev was shot seven times – once in the back of the head, execution style

If that is true, that one shot changes everything about this case.

[Kowalski]

Now their saying he wasn't armed.....

http://gma.yahoo.com/man-linked-boston-bombing-suspect-unarmed-shot-violent-013747985--abc-news-topstories.html

[Dark_Grey]

Now their saying he wasn't armed.....

http://gma.yahoo.com...topstories.html

So they shot an unarmed man possibly in the back of the head. I would love to hear the truth behind this one

[Sweetpumper]

I'm beginning to think if cops, firemen and our military have to have dash cams, helmet cams or lapel cameras, why not the FBI? They probably think they're above being civil servants like the rest of the government.

[Professor Buzzkill]

I'm beginning to think if cops, firemen and our military have to have dash cams, helmet cams or lapel cameras, why not the FBI? They probably think they're above being civil servants like the rest of the government.

dont think too loudly, you might end up with a bullet in the back of your head.

[Sweetpumper]

Or wiretapped at the very least.

[Kowalski]

This is crazy! The story keeps changing! And no one is questioning it.

I don't know what scares me more, the government or how zombie-fied people in America have become.....

It's always like, "Don't think for yourself or question anything! Just believe exactly what we tell you to!" And when you do ask questions or start thinking outside the box, you get labeled a paranoid conspiracy theorist nut......

[Little Fish]

anyone know anything about the young lad with the white baseball cap.

I remember they said he would be in court on the 20th May. i haven't heard anything.

or did they just ship him off to gitmo and hope everyone would forget about it.

[Little Fish]

Todashev, 27, allegedly attacked an FBI agent with a knife right before he was about to sign a written statement based on his confession. The agent shot and killed Todashev during the confrontation.

the bullet hole was slightly down from the top of the head towards the side and back.

is anyone else thinking this guy was sitting down in front of a table with a confession in front of him, being pressured to sign the confession with an fbi agent stood over him behind and by his side with a gun to his head, gun pointing down at 45 degrees. he refuses to sign the confession, so the fbi agent shoots him in the head, he falls forward on the table knocking it over, then they shoot his body six more times.

then the cover story comes out that he lunged for a sword knocking a table over and then got shot 7 times "defensively".

[Kowalski]

the bullet hole was slightly down from the top of the head towards the side and back.

is anyone else thinking this guy was sitting down in front of a table with a confession in front of him, being pressured to sign the confession with an fbi agent stood over him behind and by his side with a gun to his head, gun pointing down at 45 degrees. he refuses to sign the confession, so the fbi agent shoots him in the head, he falls forward on the table knocking it over, then they shoot his body six more times.

then the cover story comes out that he lunged for a sword knocking a table over and then got shot 7 times "defensively".

That's what I think.....

After all, dead men tell no tales.

[ian hacktorp]

Notice how this story has melted away from mainstream media reporting?

A young man, connected to one of the Boston suspects, is recently taken in for questioning and quickly ends up shot to death by an 'FBI agent', execution-style.

He's gone now, along with any testimony he might have given. Gone too, are any remnants of objective, investigative journalism.

Good thing too that UM took down the Boston Bombing thread...discussion of actual, real-time conspiracies may offend the sensibilities of more civilised folk...

Edited June 18, 2013 by hacktorp

[ian hacktorp]

Gone too, are any remnants of objective, investigative journalism.

I spoke just a bit too soon...

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/conspiracy-theories-abound-michael-hastings-death-article-1.1377392

Now the last remnant of objective, investigative journalism is gone