Crop Circles just one sign of Revelation

[laver]

This is not valid since it uses the height as it is now know not what the height might be with the missing cap stone. Since the size of the cap stone is unknown the calculations can not be said to be accurate.

The original height of the Great Pyramid, with capstone, is generally accepted to be very close to 481 ft fitting a 7:11 height to base ratio.

[laver]

Since the Bible indicates that 666 is the number of a mans name and not something to do with the land, it is not coincidence but you trying to make the scriptures fit your beliefs.

The Book of Revelations is full of numerical clues of which 666 is just one. Different interpretations of the text give different interpretations of the meaning behind 666 but it was clearly an important number and the landscape circles discovered by David Furlong being 1:666 the size of the Earth is well worth noting. When we can see that his landscape geometry takes us to Temple Farm with a great circle bearing from there which highlights the church locations chosen for messages in the first 3 chapters of Revelations this connection becomes much stronger.

The scriptures, Book of Revelations, are providing the information that links it to the ancient landscape geometry and this would seem to have been waiting to be found for thousands of years.

[laver]

The time frame from the Great Pyramid to crop circles is several millennia. None of the separate elements had anything to do with each other and some were not aware of the others.

If you include the Mayan Calendar in your hypothesis then the end times aren't for another 207 years. Dutch research showed there were errors made when trying to align the Mayan Calendar with the modern day calendar. The errors had to do with the phases of Venus. When the errors were corrected it was found that the Mayan Calendar does not end until 2220

The generally accepted end of a 5000 year Mayan time cycle is about NOW....

The appearance of many crop designs has only happened in very recent years, so about NOW....

The discovery of landscape geometry with actual links to the Book of Revelations and ancient sacred sites in the Holy Land has come to light recently, so about NOW....

It is thus perfectly reasonable to propose that a time of Revelation may be about NOW......

[laver]

All existing evidence points to it being built as a tomb for the Pharaoh.

Many different opinions about the Great Pyramid being just a tomb. No body or usual treasures of a king or evidence that these were later removed ?

But tomb or not the pyramid was definitely built to a design that incorporated geometric principles and on a massive and durable scale which we would find very hard to replicate today thousands of years later. Why ?

Maybe as a geometric marker with clues as to how to use it to resolve an ancient mystery and as this leads us to the Book of Revelations, written thousands of years later, a mystery that has stood the test of time.

If we are now in a position to understand some of that mystery then, presumably, this must be a time of Revelation ?

[Sir Wearer of Hats]

The Book of Revelations is full of numerical clues of which 666 is just one.

Or, in fact, one at all.

666 is a mistranslation. It's meant to be 616 which IIRC is the number of Commandments in The Pentuarch (and the number of the main Marvel universe, so more evidence that Stan Lee is actually Satan).

[Space Commander Travis]

You mean if you add up all the things that thou must not do, that's how many it comes to? Gosh. No wonder Jesus thought that things could do with some revising.

[laver]

Or, in fact, one at all.

666 is a mistranslation. It's meant to be 616 which IIRC is the number of Commandments in The Pentuarch (and the number of the main Marvel universe, so more evidence that Stan Lee is actually Satan).

True, there are those who believe 666 should be 616 but many more who accept 666 as the intended number. If 666 has a special importance then over many years some may have tried to cover that up ? Why is it so often associated with 'evil' like the pentagram ? Bit of spin to direct people away from the truth ?

How about the ubiquitous number 7, Revelations is full of it ? Obviously of great importance to the writer/author of the book and it is implicit in the design of the Great Pyramid with its 7 : 11 height to base ratio ? This ratio then fits the landscape geometry found by Furlong in Wiltshire which leads us to the churches of the Book of Revelations in Asia ( present day Turkey ) ?

[laver]

You mean if you add up all the things that thou must not do, that's how many it comes to? Gosh. No wonder Jesus thought that things could do with some revising.

You would seem to be right - Jesus did apparently think things needed a bit of a shake up but would he approve of the way things have turned out in his name ?

[Quaentum]

The original height of the Great Pyramid, with capstone, is generally accepted to be very close to 481 ft fitting a 7:11 height to base ratio.

I withdraw that comment as I felt (wrongly) that you were using the modern measurement.

If we look at the 481 ft and divide it into 7 sections we find that each section is 68-69 feet. The Kings Chamber goes from about 180 feet to 196 feet measured from ground level (base of the pyramid) This puts it in the section that is 3/7ths of the way up the pyramid so the ratio for the King's chamber would actually be 4:3 not 5:2

[Quaentum]

The Book of Revelations is full of numerical clues of which 666 is just one. Different interpretations of the text give different interpretations of the meaning behind 666 but it was clearly an important number and the landscape circles discovered by David Furlong being 1:666 the size of the Earth is well worth noting. When we can see that his landscape geometry takes us to Temple Farm with a great circle bearing from there which highlights the church locations chosen for messages in the first 3 chapters of Revelations this connection becomes much stronger.

The scriptures, Book of Revelations, are providing the information that links it to the ancient landscape geometry and this would seem to have been waiting to be found for thousands of years.

Still you are applying a number definitely assigned to the name of a man to the land which in itself isn't a valid assumption and does nothing to validate your hypothesis

[Quaentum]

The generally accepted end of a 5000 year Mayan time cycle is about NOW....

The appearance of many crop designs has only happened in very recent years, so about NOW....

The discovery of landscape geometry with actual links to the Book of Revelations and ancient sacred sites in the Holy Land has come to light recently, so about NOW....

It is thus perfectly reasonable to propose that a time of Revelation may be about NOW......

NOW is based on outdated information so is inaccurate. NOW is generally accepted since most people aren't aware of the updated information. Using NOW (outdated information) does nothing to support your hypothesis but can damage credibility.

[Quaentum]

Many different opinions about the Great Pyramid being just a tomb. No body or usual treasures of a king or evidence that these were later removed ?

But tomb or not the pyramid was definitely built to a design that incorporated geometric principles and on a massive and durable scale which we would find very hard to replicate today thousands of years later. Why ?

Maybe as a geometric marker with clues as to how to use it to resolve an ancient mystery and as this leads us to the Book of Revelations, written thousands of years later, a mystery that has stood the test of time.

If we are now in a position to understand some of that mystery then, presumably, this must be a time of Revelation ?

The existence of a sarcophagus and funerary building pretty much attest to it being a place of internment. That there was no body could be attributed to grave robbers.

Yes it is a geometric shape and one discovered independently by different peoples all over the world.

Why would they build such a large structure. Because many things in Egypt were constructed based on the persons stature. Larger stature larger works. Just take a look at some of the large statues of the Pharaoh to see evidence of it. Heck look at the Lincoln memorial and the size of the statue of the president to see it's still done today.

Hard to replicate today? I somehow doubt that. Look at St Petersburg Basilica built in the 1500's. It is nearly as big as the great pyramid

The only mystery is why people ignore what is evident.

[laver]

NOW is based on outdated information so is inaccurate. NOW is generally accepted since most people aren't aware of the updated information. Using NOW (outdated information) does nothing to support your hypothesis but can damage credibility.

The items mentioned are possible signs that we may now be at a time of Revelation. The landscape geometry that leads us to the churches of Revelation, based on the geometry of the Great Pyramid as discovered by David Furlong on the Marlborough Downs, is the major clue that this may be the case. It is quite factual. The focal point that Furlong identifies, Temple Farm near Marlborough in Wiltshire, Latitude 51 degrees 27 minutes North and Longitude 1 degree 48 minutes West, give whole degree great circle bearings which align many sites in the Holy Land and Eastern Mediterranean and highlight the churches of Revelation which would seem to be confirmed by comments in the text of Revelations all as detailed in previous posts on this topic on UM.

This is new information which has not been published before so can hardly be 'outdated' !

It raises the quite reasonable question.....is this a time of Revelation ?

[laver]

To those interested in the crop circle aspect of this topic an interesting example has been reported in Stadskanaal in the Netherlands on 30th July this year.

This can be seen on Crop Circle Connector with what has been claimed are 'before and after' photos.

The initial field reports indicate that this may be an authentic crop design and not man made. No doubt there will be proposals as to what the design means.

[Myles]

I think it means a group of people did a fine job doing this.

[Quaentum]

The items mentioned are possible signs that we may now be at a time of Revelation. The landscape geometry that leads us to the churches of Revelation, based on the geometry of the Great Pyramid as discovered by David Furlong on the Marlborough Downs, is the major clue that this may be the case. It is quite factual. The focal point that Furlong identifies, Temple Farm near Marlborough in Wiltshire, Latitude 51 degrees 27 minutes North and Longitude 1 degree 48 minutes West, give whole degree great circle bearings which align many sites in the Holy Land and Eastern Mediterranean and highlight the churches of Revelation which would seem to be confirmed by comments in the text of Revelations all as detailed in previous posts on this topic on UM.

This is new information which has not been published before so can hardly be 'outdated' !

It raises the quite reasonable question.....is this a time of Revelation ?

The outdated information was a reference to when the Mayan Calendar ends. Use of the outdated information about the Mayan Calendar does nothing to support your position that now is the time of revelation.

[laver]

The outdated information was a reference to when the Mayan Calendar ends. Use of the outdated information about the Mayan Calendar does nothing to support your position that now is the time of revelation.

As I understand the current situation there has been no change to the general agreement that the Mayan long count cycle ended at the end of last year.

As stated in previous posts it is maybe just a coincidence that this calendar cycle ends at this time but it is possible that it is not a coincidence so it is worth considering because we can now see the geometric links to the Holy Land and the churches mentioned at the start of the Book of Revelations, from proposed ancient landscape geometry in southern Britain. This is a fact but some might dismiss it as also a 'coincidence'. Alternatively it is a sign that we may be at a time of Revelation.

Why was the Book of Revelations written if not to provide us with clues about a future time when things would be revealed ?

It was obviously considered of great importance or it would not have been included as the last book of the bible and the text clearly indicates that understanding the ancient landscape geometry is the key to Revelations.

[shrooma]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/10215577/Crop-circles-slammed-as-the-work-of-amateurs-as-their-numbers-plummet.html

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i guess the "aliens" finally woke up to the fact that the bible is just a book filled with allegorical tales written by a bunch of semi-nomadic goatherders.

maybe the next wave of "visitors" will start basing "their" designs on something with better source material-

like the collected works of hans christian andersen.....

Edited August 2, 2013 by shrooma

[laver]

I think it means a group of people did a fine job doing this.

Maybe but maybe not, quite a 'conspiracy' of people to set this one up but some interesting designs now appearing in UK this month

[shrooma]

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02632/crap-circle_2632689e.jpg

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about as interesting as catching fleas.

[MrBene]

Just because someone doesn't understand how a complex crop circle is made doesn't mean that it was made for ET. Now, I do believe that there's something strange going on out-there (in the sky/space), but that doesn't mean I am going to believe everything I see on the Internet.

There are lots of people with huge and deep knowledge of math, binary code and more, what is so ET about it? I don't get it.

[Skithia]

I just dont get what it is about people that they so want to believe in an end times at all. christians have been convinced its coming for the last 2000 years - and its always just around the corner. We will all experience our own personal end time in its own time but the world and the universe are pretty much guaranteed to continue perfectly well without us.

[+DieChecker]

Was the Great Pyramid just a tomb ?

Yes.

An interesting crop design was reported on 15th July at Hackpen Hill Nr Broad Wiltshire in the UK. (see Crop Circle Connector for details)

It is man made, IMHO.

The generally accepted end of a 5000 year Mayan time cycle is about NOW....

The appearance of many crop designs has only happened in very recent years, so about NOW....

The discovery of landscape geometry with actual links to the Book of Revelations and ancient sacred sites in the Holy Land has come to light recently, so about NOW....

It is thus perfectly reasonable to propose that a time of Revelation may be about NOW......

That does not make sense. It is the same as if I said... It is Tuesday, and birds are flying south, and I found a bunch of dead grasshoppers... so there must be some kind of military germ warfare trials going on.

There is no way to link the Mayan Calendar to Jesus. The Mayans didn't even exist when Jesus walked the earth.

Crop circles haven't been proven to be anything but hoaxes so far.

Alignments between places in the Bible and England are coincidence. And I've not seen any evidence to show otherwise.

Averaging a set of datapoints and getting a number near what you want does not mean those datapoints are valid. You can draw a great circle through each of those church locations and have it hit the Holy Land. And you'd be hard pressed to have a line pass over the Holy Land and not pass near something significant. It is coincidence.

[laver]

Just because someone doesn't understand how a complex crop circle is made doesn't mean that it was made for ET. Now, I do believe that there's something strange going on out-there (in the sky/space), but that doesn't mean I am going to believe everything I see on the Internet.

There are lots of people with huge and deep knowledge of math, binary code and more, what is so ET about it? I don't get it.

Crop designs are a phenomena that is not easily explained by the theory that they are all manmade. So it is worth considering all other options and if a non terrestial origin of some of them is one option then we would logically ask WHY and also WHY NOW........

[laver]

I just dont get what it is about people that they so want to believe in an end times at all. christians have been convinced its coming for the last 2000 years - and its always just around the corner. We will all experience our own personal end time in its own time but the world and the universe are pretty much guaranteed to continue perfectly well without us.

Many cultures believed in the concept of an ' End of Time ' or a time of great change/return. In the bible this is mentioned by Jesus and the Book of Revelations is apparently about this period in time. Much of the bible is not supported by scientific investigations over the years but by reading between the lines may be useful.

The Book of Revelations states that there is a 'secret meaning' in the churches chosen for messages in the first 3 chapters and when these churches can now be seen to be geometrically highlighted by what seems to be very ancient landscape geometry leading to the Holy Land it seems only right to point out this discovery because it might mean that we are at a time of Revelation ?