bendigger0 Posted January 19, 2014 #1 Share Posted January 19, 2014 It is suggested, in certain quarters, that the phenomenon we call TIME is illusory. Furthermore, it is pronounced by residents of those certain quarters, that Past, Present and Future exist simultaneously. Yet, it is also suggested that the Future is not 'set in stone', as it were. That the Future is plastic, malleable and precisely indeterminate. Now, if Past, Present and Future are concurrent, and Future is seen as somewhat indeterminate. Then, aren't Past and Present also malleable and not 'fixed'? This line of thought can lead to some startling conclusions. What is Time? Speculate freely. Eschew your petty naysaying wit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkitecht Posted January 19, 2014 #2 Share Posted January 19, 2014 The many world's theory comes to mind...make's sense if you really think about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissJatti Posted January 19, 2014 #3 Share Posted January 19, 2014 people believe that, people have time travelled to and from the future, and back to the past and from the past...back and forth on numerous occasions... if this is true, then what year are we really in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkitecht Posted January 19, 2014 #4 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Well since pope gregory changed the Julian calender in 1582,knowing what is the "Real" date is might be kinda tricky. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregorian_calendar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted January 19, 2014 #5 Share Posted January 19, 2014 I have heard it explained that the Creator God is "outside" of time and can see all three simultaneously. As such, the prophecies we read are events which have already occurred from his POV and thus why a TRUE prophet MUST be accurate 100% of the time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nighthawk9653 Posted January 19, 2014 #6 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Wow, that's something awesome to think about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awake2Chaos Posted January 19, 2014 #7 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Here we view time as linear; doesn't mean it is linear. We're constrained by the 3rd dimension and it's laws. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toast Posted January 19, 2014 #8 Share Posted January 19, 2014 (edited) Time is an effect of the ongoing expansion process of the universe. Events in the past, the present and the future do not exist/happen simultaneously for an individual observer. References to events in the past are subject to the laws of Entropy and will vanish and cannot be observed anymore. The future is always based on past events but just can be observed at a time where this particular future is past already. Strictly speaking, the so called present does not exist and cannot exist as there is no steady state event possible that wasn´t influenced by past events and will not influence future events. So the present is a kind of singularity and subject to Heisenbergs uncertainty principle also, during description. Edited January 19, 2014 by toast 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Border Collie Posted January 21, 2014 #9 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Time is not a medium for travel. There is only the eternal present. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taniwha Posted January 21, 2014 #10 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Was there a time before time itself existed? Does time have a beginning? Does it have an end? Does it even have a middle? Maybe time is pure energy that can neither be created nor destroyed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightly Posted January 22, 2014 #11 Share Posted January 22, 2014 This is one of those unanswerable, as of now, (lol) questions. I think there is only now, no matter how brief now is. Things happen at their own pace and we measure those changes with "time". (if the future already exists.. then everything that happens, no matter how random, is predetermined . I can't accept that...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendigger0 Posted January 22, 2014 Author #12 Share Posted January 22, 2014 perhaps past-present-future do not exist simultaneously for a subjective observer. For a theoretical OBJECTIVE observer past-present-future may appear to exist simultaneously. Perhaps the noted accelerating Universal expansion is an artifact of the continually widening sphere of probable/possible futures. It is suggested that within the framework of a greater Reality, that time and space are illusory... strictures of our material existence. There is no past-present-future in the spiritual world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissJatti Posted January 22, 2014 #13 Share Posted January 22, 2014 (edited) is destiny already written? Edited January 22, 2014 by SkeptcByMindBelievrByHeart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toast Posted January 22, 2014 #14 Share Posted January 22, 2014 is destiny already written? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendigger0 Posted January 22, 2014 Author #15 Share Posted January 22, 2014 is destiny already written? good question... it seems that what one would call 'destiny', is a spectrum of probabilities. Some suggest that every conceivable probability is indeed actualized in some portion of the causal phenomenon we blithely call the Universe. Considering a more local chain-of-events... my speculation is that destiny maybe like a coalescing crystal. The indications of it's forming are there, the conditions are right... an objective observer may be able to forecast it's likely progression. Is destiny already written? Only if past-present-future are simultaneous, which would mean that time/space is illusory. It's fun to think about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qxcontinuum Posted January 25, 2014 #16 Share Posted January 25, 2014 I have heard it explained that the Creator God is "outside" of time and can see all three simultaneously. As such, the prophecies we read are events which have already occurred from his POV and thus why a TRUE prophet MUST be accurate 100% of the time. Very interesting. So then what exactly make us limited in our current present? What is the formula that keeps us prisoners of time? In the same time i must say if God can see criminals like Hitler in the future, by not taking any actions wouldn't this make Him part taking to these crimes, which will be a contradiction of its own image Good, kind, forgiven,etc... I think it is impossible for God to see in the future ...i only think he cans see the past. Same are scientists saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emma_Acid Posted January 31, 2014 #17 Share Posted January 31, 2014 What is Time?. Its what the universe uses to stop everything from happening at once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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