NOAA claims Bermuda Triangle is just a myth

[Babe Ruth]

Sorry, NOAA but we don't believe you. And to folks who "think" they have it figured out... think again.

I have flown in and through the Bahamas since about 1970, which is technically in a corner of the Bermuda Triangle. Nothing has ever happened, but I give some measure of credibility to stories told by some flying in that area.

Though nothing has happened to me, I suspect there is some measure of truth to the stories.

[Merc14]

I have flown in and through the Bahamas since about 1970, which is technically in a corner of the Bermuda Triangle. Nothing has ever happened, but I give some measure of credibility to stories told by some flying in that area.

Though nothing has happened to me, I suspect there is some measure of truth to the stories.

What stories would you deem credible and why?

[Mr.United_Nations]

Well according to the US Naval Academy and the Johns Hopkins University it reports that there is a "river" in the gulf stream, this is why some reports indicate that the final position reading may have actually originated 100 miles or so away. This may make the pilots or captains confused on the readings. Maybe this what happened to flight 19.

[Babe Ruth]

What stories would you deem credible and why?

There are several, but the most recent was told by a fellow flying from Andros back to PBI back in the 70's or so. Strange cloud formation and time enroute that wasn't normal. His account came on a story about AUTEC on Andros.

[Merc14]

There are several, but the most recent was told by a fellow flying from Andros back to PBI back in the 70's or so. Strange cloud formation and time enroute that wasn't normal. His account came on a story about AUTEC on Andros.

That was thoroughly debunked on this thread here http://www.unexplain...topic=258115= Bruce Gernon is at best a fool and at worst a charlatan. I tend to think he is a bit of both with a bit of brain damage mixed in.

Edited February 26, 2014 by Merc14

[psyche101]

That was thoroughly debunked on this thread here http://www.unexplain...topic=258115= Bruce Gernon is at best a fool and at worst a charlatan. I tend to think he is a bit of both with a bit of brain damage mixed in.

Babe Ruth actually contributed to that very thread, earlier in the piece.

Babe Ruth just seem to think any exaltation at all form anyone who can read is a huge conspiracy against "the people" He seems to have this hypothesis that the more unbelievable a story is, the more it refuses conventional science and logic, the more likely it is the be exposing a Government plot to "get to the people" Not sure what they want to do with "the people" but this is their way of "getting to them".

Severe paranoia going on there.

I would post a pic as well, but it seems that lately, levity is being curbed. Lets not be friendly or lighten a situation or anything of the sort if we can help it. Gee, that ought to cut back on animosity in place where passions run wild.........

Edited February 27, 2014 by psyche101

[Babe Ruth]

That was thoroughly debunked on this thread here http://www.unexplain...topic=258115= Bruce Gernon is at best a fool and at worst a charlatan. I tend to think he is a bit of both with a bit of brain damage mixed in.

I tell you Merc, one of my life's ambition, at age 66, is to be fortunate enough to be in your august presence. I would be that much closer to heaven, if only to be in the presence of one as smart as you are.

[Merc14]

I tell you Merc, one of my life's ambition, at age 66, is to be fortunate enough to be in your august presence. I would be that much closer to heaven, if only to be in the presence of one as smart as you are.

So you agree that Bruce Gernon is a charlatan or worse! Great! See you are teachable and thanks for recognizing my role in your education but there were many others with far better input, so maybe you should thank them as well and congrats on your growth as a human. Never too old to learn something new like critical thought and its application to magical stories

Edited February 27, 2014 by Merc14

[stereologist]

I tell you Merc, one of my life's ambition, at age 66, is to be fortunate enough to be in your august presence. I would be that much closer to heaven, if only to be in the presence of one as smart as you are.

The ability to learn and think through problems is something anyone can learn at any age. BR you too can learn to think through issues. It's a simple a simple matter of learning to turn off the urge to swallow the hook, line, and sinker in one gulp and question the validity of statements that are made. Begin with the easiest to verify issues such as numbers or places or similar pieces of data. In many odd claims it turns out that the people mentioned do not exist. An example is the claim that the Gulf Stream stopped flowing. The story is based on a researcher. Go to the website for the research institution and that name does not appear. There is a reference to a journal article. It does not exist. That clearly shows that the material was made up.

When Bermuda Triangle claims are checked out they turn out to be false stories in which almost all of the facts are either made up or distorted. The best known story is the one of the missing planes. Turns out that the dialogue in Berlitz's book is completely made up. Before posting about sizzling neutrons find out if that makes sense.

[psyche101]

I tell you Merc, one of my life's ambition, at age 66, is to be fortunate enough to be in your august presence. I would be that much closer to heaven, if only to be in the presence of one as smart as you are.

Have you ever considered reading something that was not first penned by Alex Jones?

An entire new world awaits you.

[qxcontinuum]

I've watches recently on national Geographic a documentary talking about some space time distortion vortex caused by electro magnetic anomalies. It seems some modern planes have travelled way to fast or slow on some distances according to the onboard clock versus base control. In the same time often the fuel tank is emptying faster on short distances than it would normally do in other routes.

[sinewave]

I'm inclined to agree with NOAA on this. All commercial ships are insured against loss. Insurance companies are really very good at assessing risk. Having said that, the arbitrary triangular area of ocean in question is one of the busiest shipping lanes in the world. If there was a substantial risk to being in there, the insurance companies would know about it and would require ships to route around it. There are no statistics that support the notion of ship or plane loss being any more likely there than anywhere else in the world. It is really just a lot of media hype and mythology.

[Merc14]

I've watches recently on national Geographic a documentary talking about some space time distortion vortex caused by electro magnetic anomalies. It seems some modern planes have travelled way to fast or slow on some distances according to the onboard clock versus base control. In the same time often the fuel tank is emptying faster on short distances than it would normally do in other routes.

You need to clarify what you are talkiing about here because Einstein predicted that clocks run slower the faster their speed that clocks run slower the stronger the gravity around it. What this means is that a clock on teh space station will sem to be running slower than a matching clock on the ground. The effect, however, is negligible when discussing aircraft.

[Bavarian Raven]

Of course it is just a myth, doesn't mean a lot of planes and ships haven't disappeared without a trace though. But if that's all it takes to make an area cursed, the pacific north west and especially the graveyard of the pacific must be uberly-cursed then

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Not to derail this thread, but...that being said, does anyone remember the case of that plane in the early 1960s (I believe it was a DC of some make) that was en-route to Miami, on radar and within fifty kilometres of the airport when it vanished. I remember reading about this case ages ago, but cannot remember where. I believe no trace of the plane was ever found, but would like to read more. Any help and/or links would be welcomed. Thanks!

[Space Commander Travis]

Perhaps it's moved to Malaysia.

[Gummug]

Of course it is just a myth, doesn't mean a lot of planes and ships haven't disappeared without a trace though. But if that's all it takes to make an area cursed, the pacific north west and especially the graveyard of the pacific must be uberly-cursed then

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Not to derail this thread, but...that being said, does anyone remember the case of that plane in the early 1960s (I believe it was a DC of some make) that was en-route to Miami, on radar and within fifty kilometres of the airport when it vanished. I remember reading about this case ages ago, but cannot remember where. I believe no trace of the plane was ever found, but would like to read more. Any help and/or links would be welcomed. Thanks!

From Wikipedia, this was in 1948, it was a DC-3, but it looks like it just drifted off course, and the plane was overloaded and had electronic difficulties, evidently:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Airborne_Transport_DC-3_(DST)_disappearance