+Paranoid Android Posted April 18, 2014 #1 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Atheists should drop their easily dismissed scientific, philosophical or historical arguments against Christianity, and instead quiz believers about Old Testament violence and hell, writes John Dickson. As an intellectual movement, Christianity has a head start on atheism. So it's only natural that believers would find some of the current arguments against God less than satisfying. In the interests of a more robust debate this Easter, I want to offer my tips for atheists wanting to make a dent in the Faith. I've got some advice on arguments that should be dropped and some admissions about where Christians are vulnerable. Full reading, see source - http://abc.net.au/news/2014-04-18/dickson-tips-for-atheists/5397892 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted April 18, 2014 #2 Share Posted April 18, 2014 How about "Top tip for Atheists - Don't Bother, you're not going to change anyone's opinions and you'll just make yourself annoyed". Either they're going to be talking to people who already basically agree with them or they're going to be talking to the hardcore Fundies and in which case they might as well be talking to a wall, at least the wall is serving some useful function in society. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skep B Posted April 18, 2014 #3 Share Posted April 18, 2014 I was really hoping the tips would be. "Chill out, eat eggs and chocolate, repeat as necessary" 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seaturtlehorsesnake Posted April 18, 2014 #4 Share Posted April 18, 2014 the man accusing atheists of misrepresenting his faith is himself misrepresenting the beliefs of atheists. my easter tip to atheists and christians alike is: don't eat ham. it's gross. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skep B Posted April 18, 2014 #5 Share Posted April 18, 2014 my easter tip to atheists and christians alike is: don't eat ham. it's gross. In the future, if you ever wonder why you fell out of favor with me, remember this statement 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seaturtlehorsesnake Posted April 18, 2014 #6 Share Posted April 18, 2014 In the future, if you ever wonder why you fell out of favor with me, remember this statement i am not afraid. the time has come. the truth shall emerge at last. (i actually like some ham. but the average grocery store bought, frozen, so called honey baked ham? lord spare me from that awful grocery store ham) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambelamba Posted April 18, 2014 #7 Share Posted April 18, 2014 I don't see Pauline Christianity remotely humanitarian or intellectual. I said Pauline. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skep B Posted April 18, 2014 #8 Share Posted April 18, 2014 (edited) i am not afraid. the time has come. the truth shall emerge at last. (i actually like some ham. but the average grocery store bought, frozen, so called honey baked ham? lord spare me from that awful grocery store ham) We cool then, you shall be spared my wrath I don't see Pauline Christianity remotely humanitarian or intellectual. I said Pauline. Pauline? Ohhh the apostle paul. eh, im ok w/ pauls work largely but i think it's been misinterpreted Edited April 18, 2014 by Scheming B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DecoNoir Posted April 18, 2014 #9 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Best advise I could give: Shut the hell up and move on with your life, Game of Thrones is on. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Liquid Gardens Posted April 18, 2014 #10 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Atheists should drop their easily dismissed scientific, philosophical or historical arguments against Christianity, and instead quiz believers about Old Testament violence and hell, writes John Dickson. It depends upon the specific argument, but he's trying to use the word 'dismissed' in this statement to mean 'refuted' when for some points it's actually more like 'dismissed' as in 'ignored'. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartan max2 Posted April 18, 2014 #11 Share Posted April 18, 2014 ffs lets have no one debate anyone on Easter and relax -_- this article is bad advice, all i got to say. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skep B Posted April 18, 2014 #12 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Right? If youre showing up to hang out with people on Easter, Christmas, whatever else and youre looking forward to religious arguments, Your religion is far from your biggest issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHaYap Posted April 18, 2014 #13 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Oh Father ... and it was on Easter day too ~ ~ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seaturtlehorsesnake Posted April 19, 2014 #14 Share Posted April 19, 2014 ok, new tip for atheists and people of all faiths for this easter infinite consensual high-fives. go. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skep B Posted April 19, 2014 #15 Share Posted April 19, 2014 There is already: Kiss a Stranger, Hug a Homosexual, Coming Soon: High Five Someone of a Different Religion Someone get me a video camera 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHaYap Posted April 19, 2014 #16 Share Posted April 19, 2014 Am I allowed to put on lipstick ? ~ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bendy Demon Posted April 19, 2014 #17 Share Posted April 19, 2014 I was really hoping the tips would be. "Chill out, eat eggs and chocolate, repeat as necessary" Well..maybe not the eggs unless they're either chocolate or marshmallow. Preferably both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skep B Posted April 19, 2014 #18 Share Posted April 19, 2014 hardboiled eggs? or deviled eggs my snacks of chocie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redhen Posted April 19, 2014 #19 Share Posted April 19, 2014 I read through all the tips, and the author failed to mention the "problem of evil". What a amateur! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davros of Skaro Posted April 19, 2014 #20 Share Posted April 19, 2014 Atheists should drop their easily dismissed scientific, philosophical or historical arguments against Christianity, and instead quiz believers about Old Testament violence and hell, writes John Dickson. As an intellectual movement, Christianity has a head start on atheism. So it's only natural that believers would find some of the current arguments against God less than satisfying. In the interests of a more robust debate this Easter, I want to offer my tips for atheists wanting to make a dent in the Faith. I've got some advice on arguments that should be dropped and some admissions about where Christians are vulnerable. Full reading, see source - http://abc.net.au/news/2014-04-18/dickson-tips-for-atheists/5397892 In response to Dr. John Dickson's 10 tips. #1 How is circular logic & presupposition intelluctual? #2 Yes I noticed how Christians use the word "faith", and I see disguised self delusion. #3 Yes it's a good thing there're less Bible literalists.Now if more & more see the absurdity of the Bible instead of making daft excuses for it, that would be great. #4 You commited that very same fallacy in your last sentence. #5 Ok smart ass.What would your reaction be if your country's currency said "In Krishna we trust"? It's the same Theistic mind...Right? #6 Rigid Dogmas based on nonevidence that's divisive, and superstitious is poison to me. #7 What a joke! I would love to see you debate Richard Carrier instead of Strawmanning Richard Dawkins, and appeal to so called consensus. #8 Appeal to emotion works great for con artists & politics. #9 The OT stuff is no problem, because we now have Super Jesus.Super Jesus is able to leap over Genocide, Slavery, and stuff that shows it's obvious superstition in a single bound. #10 Oh? You are squemish talking about Hell?I bet you have no problem talking to children about it behind closed doors. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ancient astronaut Posted April 19, 2014 #21 Share Posted April 19, 2014 There is already: Kiss a Stranger, Hug a Homosexual, Coming Soon: High Five Someone of a Different Religion Someone get me a video camera Your film afraid will be blank my friend. Unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imaginarynumber1 Posted April 19, 2014 #22 Share Posted April 19, 2014 my easter tip to atheists and christians alike is: don't eat ham. it's gross. How DARE YOU!!!!!!!! I will be ham drunk ALL WEEKEND!!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ancient astronaut Posted April 19, 2014 #23 Share Posted April 19, 2014 (edited) The biggest problem with "theists" in general is that everyone else is wrong and they are right. Oh, and ham is kick-ass, especially Black Forest Ham. Edited April 19, 2014 by ancient astronaut 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imaginarynumber1 Posted April 19, 2014 #24 Share Posted April 19, 2014 It's too much effort to quiz people about whatever. I have a life to live. I simply don't care that it's Easter and will be going about my Sundays like always. With the exception of being ham drunk. I am getting so ham drunk. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawken Posted April 19, 2014 #25 Share Posted April 19, 2014 It is ironic an Atheist (even some Christians) will teach their children in something that don't exist like the Easter Bunny, Santa Claus & Tooth Fairy but don't believe in the existence of God. It might be in all good fun for the parents pleasure but it's just setting up the kids for a disappointment when they reach an age where you have to tell them the truth. Of course kids are shocked at first but get over it but it does give them the idea it's ok to lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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