synchronomy Posted September 25, 2013 #151 Share Posted September 25, 2013 (edited) It offends me when people put words in a dead mans mouth. Neil saw nothing but lifeless desolation on the moon. You are confusing the terms "skeptic" and "discernment". Accept what he said and not what others claim he said. Edited September 25, 2013 by synchronomy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
synchronomy Posted September 25, 2013 #152 Share Posted September 25, 2013 If you don't like what the website say's disregard it. Isn't that standard skeptic policy? Nuff said. My previous post was intended as a reply to the one above. My apologies, a Windows smartphone, which I have been saddled with is less intuitive than the more popular models. Hence, I repeat: It offends me when people put words in a dead mans mouth. Neil saw nothing but lifeless desolation on the moon. You are confusing the terms "skeptic" and "discernment". Accept what he said and not what others claim he said. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
synchronomy Posted September 25, 2013 #153 Share Posted September 25, 2013 (edited) If they are telling lies and fabricating stories, please explain how you know. Two people with a similar tale. Over to you Jim. Jim has more years experience than most of the astronauts. Many more years. He comes across strongly for good reason...many wannabees, conspiracy theorists, charlatans and all around know-it-alls give ufology a bad name. You have been told and informed before that most of the "eye witness accounts" are by untrained observers. Space is vastly different from walking in your backyard. You need to know the lighting conditions and the exact time of the video before drawing any extrapolations. For goodness sake educate yourself. You seem to think anyone disagreeing with you has a plot of coverup. If NASA had evidence of intelligent life they would publicise it widely because it would result in funding and budget increases beyond our wildest dreams! There is no coverup! Get it out of your head! Edited September 25, 2013 by synchronomy 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DONTEATUS Posted September 25, 2013 #154 Share Posted September 25, 2013 I heard that I did "sycnchronomy" ITs so strange that "some -z "people dont get it ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pheonix Cluster Posted June 29, 2015 #155 Share Posted June 29, 2015 :This answer has been answered by Ex-Nasa Employees: It's because the moon is crawling with Agressive and Scary Alien Species Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pheonix Cluster Posted June 29, 2015 #156 Share Posted June 29, 2015 And "sycnchronomy'' That answer you gave, Is what Nasa wants you to Believe. So please Rethink or Review your answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted June 29, 2015 #157 Share Posted June 29, 2015 :This answer has been answered by Ex-Nasa Employees: It's because the moon is crawling with Agressive and Scary Alien Species That was a movie. And "sycnchronomy'' That answer you gave, Is what Nasa wants you to Believe. So please Rethink or Review your answer Not what Edgar Mitchell says, and I reckon he is more likely to know what NASA is up to than you are. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S2F Posted June 29, 2015 #158 Share Posted June 29, 2015 And "sycnchronomy'' That answer you gave, Is what Nasa wants you to Believe. So please Rethink or Review your answer And who is it that is telling you what to believe? That's a two way street I'm afraid. And welcome to UM. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted June 29, 2015 #159 Share Posted June 29, 2015 :This answer has been answered by Ex-Nasa Employees: It's because the moon is crawling with Agressive and Scary Alien Species Nonsense,we all know the moon is an egg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DONTEATUS Posted June 29, 2015 #160 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Well Moon over Miami will settle the stomach, or Not ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shouldthisexist Posted June 29, 2015 #161 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Talk about resurrecting i really wish that NASA or another private space company would take one more trip to the moon. Take all of our new equipment and a handful of top CTs and film and let them look. Then when they come on and say there was nothing there it can finally be put to rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowSot Posted June 29, 2015 #162 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Except it won't. Either they will claim it was all stated by NASA or the ex-CT believers will be accused of being disinfo agents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shouldthisexist Posted June 29, 2015 #163 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Except it won't. Either they will claim it was all stated by NASA or the ex-CT believers will be accused of being disinfo agents. This is true, I must admit CTs have a great set up. Believe whatever you want and the parts you don't like declare it a cover up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Hammerclaw Posted June 29, 2015 #164 Share Posted June 29, 2015 (edited) We haven't gone back to the moon because politicians equate it with "climbing the highest mountain" and see no political glory in climbing it twice. They won't wake up until the Chinese or Russians get there and then they'll be all over getting us back there, in a frantic, whiny way. Nothing like a little competition to stir the pot. Besides, NASA was given a choice of moonbase, space station or shuttle and we know how that turned out. Edited June 29, 2015 by Hammerclaw 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Willis Posted June 29, 2015 #165 Share Posted June 29, 2015 We haven't gone back to the moon because politicians equate it with "climbing the highest mountain" and see no political glory in climbing it twice. They won't wake up until the Chinese or Russians get there and then they'll be all over getting us back there, in a frantic, whiny way. Nothing like a little competition to stir the pot. Besides, NASA was given a choice of moonbase, space station or shuttle and we know how that turned out. Is there any reason we continually have humans in Earth orbit? Don't get me wrong, I am not against having humans in orbit. But do they do anything that can't be done by satellites or other machines? I know in the past that certainly was the case. But machines are getting pretty sophisticated these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.United_Nations Posted June 29, 2015 #166 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Is there any reason we continually have humans in Earth orbit? Don't get me wrong, I am not against having humans in orbit. But do they do anything that can't be done by satellites or other machines? I know in the past that certainly was the case. But machines are getting pretty sophisticated these days. Because space technology takes years and years to devlop, plus if a machine breaks down, whos going to fix it? or spend more years to build a replacement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Willis Posted June 29, 2015 #167 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Because space technology takes years and years to devlop, plus if a machine breaks down, whos going to fix it? or spend more years to build a replacement Well, yes. But humans can only go into space using space technology. What I am saying is, once they are in space are there any specific things they can do - are doing - that machines can't do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Hammerclaw Posted June 29, 2015 #168 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Is there any reason we continually have humans in Earth orbit? Don't get me wrong, I am not against having humans in orbit. But do they do anything that can't be done by satellites or other machines? I know in the past that certainly was the case. But machines are getting pretty sophisticated these days. Either humanity is serious about becoming a multi-planet space faring species--or it is not. If it is, the tiny baby steps we are taking by long term exposure to space--even in low Earth orbit--are necessary. Yes, we went to the moon, ill equipt with 1960s technology under the impetus of political whim, and met the engineering challenge of getting there. Our solutions for protecting the human element of the missions were precarious, at best, however. There was so much we didn't know, but political expediency trumped all other considerations. We had the heavy lift capabilty for a Mars mission in our grasp in the '60s. Giving up the SATURN 5 for the shuttle program was the worst decision NASA ever made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeder Posted June 29, 2015 #169 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Talk about resurrecting i really wish that NASA or another private space company would take one more trip to the moon. Take all of our new equipment and a handful of top CTs and film and let them look. Then when they come on and say there was nothing there it can finally be put to rest. China went there, landed a rover few years back, the Japanese and Indians sent probes too, and took much better resolution images/maps, China has plans for a moonbase, possibly with the Russians, Japan also wants a future moonbase Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shouldthisexist Posted June 29, 2015 #170 Share Posted June 29, 2015 China went there, landed a rover few years back, the Japanese and Indians sent probes too, and took much better resolution images/maps, China has plans for a moonbase, possibly with the Russians, Japan also wants a future moonbase Hmmm i like earth way to much to volunteer for a moonbase. I'm a oxygen junkie don't judge me! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shouldthisexist Posted June 29, 2015 #171 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Well, yes. But humans can only go into space using space technology. What I am saying is, once they are in space are there any specific things they can do - are doing - that machines can't do? I thought one of the pluses was to observe how we do in space. I mean I know that's not the only reason it was built. I think though that is a reason to put people in orbit, to study it's effects on the human body to see if prolonged space trips are even feasible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeder Posted June 29, 2015 #172 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Is there any reason we continually have humans in Earth orbit? Don't get me wrong, I am not against having humans in orbit. But do they do anything that can't be done by satellites or other machines? I know in the past that certainly was the case. But machines are getting pretty sophisticated these days. One of the most interesting things about men/women on the space station...is how the lack of gravity/space radiation affects the human body, we know for example, that we dont really do that well in space for long periods of time and we must find ways to overcome that if we were ever to travel deep into space Have a read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_research_on_the_International_Space_Station Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowSot Posted June 29, 2015 #173 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Part of the reason for the shuttle was essentially the DOD thought that a space plane was cool. Nevermi d it handles like a brick, it was such a cool brick! With NASA having to adopt such inspiration, it's amazing they get things done like they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Willis Posted June 29, 2015 #174 Share Posted June 29, 2015 One of the most interesting things about men/women on the space station...is how the lack of gravity/space radiation affects the human body, we know for example, that we dont really do that well in space for long periods of time and we must find ways to overcome that if we were ever to travel deep into space Have a read https://en.wikipedia...l_Space_Station I'm not against human space travel - quite the opposite! But I am interested in the motivations. I am old enough to remember that much - perhaps all - of the motivation behind the US going to the moon was to beat the Soviet Union. And of course, the technical spin-offs from the moon program were immense, so it was well worth the effort. I am just wondering what the motivations are now. Are we kind of treading water until some big new motivation comes along? Is the scientific benefits of humans being in orbit a bit of a red herring, albeit a necessary red herring? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Hammerclaw Posted June 29, 2015 #175 Share Posted June 29, 2015 If you're researching the science of humans in space, having humans in space furthers that goal and the term "red herring" is non sequitur, and a fallacy of distraction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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