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psyche101, on 03 April 2012 - 06:25 AM, said:

That will be up to his countrymen I think, The threat is there, bit it has been just a threat for many years. I think he is just being held up as an example as to how bad things can go if you break and enter a government department. The admins he got past should probably be no more than one step behind him in a perfect world. I do not think he will end up in Guantanamo.

True, doesn't seem to stop many people though does it!

psyche101, on 03 April 2012 - 06:25 AM, said:

Actually, I feel Lost Shaman has the best hypothesis going, in that it was an Intelligence Operation to keep the public and media away from the phenomena whilst the USAF study it in peace. I think the crash could well have been staged, and that the Twinning memo seems to point rather directly at this conclusion.

Phenomena or staged crash? Make up your mind Mr.Ambiguous!     (I'm assuming If It's phenomena It can't be staged, otherwise It wouldn't be phenomena).

psyche101, on 03 April 2012 - 06:25 AM, said:

Yes I hear you, I do not get too many these days. When I do, I get double evangelistic on them. You think YOU have the way! Let me show you the real truth! Have I got a church for you! Then I get all wound up telling them that I can show them the true light and to come along Sunday morning to meet a person who can truly save them etc etc, does not take long to see the back of them most times. Just go double crazy on their ass.

Oh man, that is friggin classic! I am definitely going to do that next time I'm living in the city. You think YOU have the way!

psyche101, on 03 April 2012 - 06:25 AM, said:

I do not think just a belief shows one to be losing faculties. That can show instability, but more often than not it is merely wishful thinking. With Gordon Copper I would be more inclined to feel he is losing his faculties. Looking at older clips of him in his prime, and comparing them to now. He has a far slower and more slurred speech. I also wish that some would take into account that saying such is not an insult. It will happen to me and the person offended one day too. It is age, and the natural circle of life. Most of us slow down quite a bit as the years take hold.

He's quite old now though Isn't he? You would have to be either a little bit crazy, or honest and alot of stupid to say what our good friend the councillor did.

psyche101, on 03 April 2012 - 06:25 AM, said:

Sadly yes. I would love to think I would be reunited with my father when I go, but I just cannot see a reason to think that is a reality. I can see much emotional reason to believe in such, but no way to firm that belief.


Indeed, Heavens Gate comes to mind immediately. Even today the Rael UFO religion employs the use of prostitution from it's young and attractive female members to fund the Cult. I bet that Claude Vorhillion has a few corporate kickbacks on that front as well. Amazing such can go on in this day and age to be honset.

True. I was purely emotionally invested in the idea of life after death until a few experiences changed me. The most eye opening one was seeing ghosts. Nothing else can explain what it was or what it did. Not from a distance, not in the rain at a distance, not with a crappy cell phone video on youtube, within 3 metres of me. That was a surprise I can tell you now.

Although...If there's ghosts around, what's the deal with reincarnation?! Can't work! Unless there's a queue....Wouldn't surprise me actually...


Where do I sign up!

psyche101, on 03 April 2012 - 06:25 AM, said:

Hrrmmzz, I guess that depends on ones vantage point. I thought he was pretty crackers right of the bat making claims that are wild that he cannot stand by that make little sense. There is no ultimate goal, no reasoning, just the shock value. And to my experience, shock value in media is very very rarely an accident.

If I felt this is what really happened to me, I think I would need a good reason to share it. I have done many things in my life, some I would not share in public. I just cannot step into this guys shoes as there seems to be no reasoning to his "coming out". I do wonder what he honestly thought the reaction would be. I cannot understand why he would think this would be a good thing to share with the public. All I can pick up on so far is all publicity is good publicity here. Last week I would not have known he existed, now he even has people in Australia discussing him! I cannot help but have a sneaky suspicion that he is just another brand of snake oil salesman.

Since we all observe the world differently, It's possible he was not even thinking about the 'shock value' his words would have. While I agree 100% with your premise, it means he would have to be conscious of what he is about to do, instead of just 'opening his mouth' which was the initial impression I go.

I also can't understand why he would think "Oh It's a good time to tell them my mums an alien now I've been elected! Honesty is the best policy!"

Only time will tell! If he gets given any

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Wandering, on 05 April 2012 - 03:14 AM, said:

True, doesn't seem to stop many people though does it!

You know that is an excellent point. Whilst many authorities put measures in place as a deterrent, there is always one who will break that deterrent. Makes one think. Just what does work?

Wandering, on 05 April 2012 - 03:14 AM, said:

Phenomena or staged crash? Make up your mind Mr.Ambiguous!     (I'm assuming If It's phenomena It can't be staged, otherwise It wouldn't be phenomena).

Did I say Roswell was natural phenomena? If I did sorry, I do not subscribe to that at all, I think the debris field is superfluous and may or may not have existed. The majority of the "information" I find stems from the media or zealous UFO proponents. I do not mind the MOGUL explanation, but I do feel Lost Shamans hypothesis is the only one that covers all bases.

Wandering, on 05 April 2012 - 03:14 AM, said:

Oh man, that is friggin classic! I am definitely going to do that next time I'm living in the city. You think YOU have the way!

Enjoy, I have a great one for telemarketers as well. They often ring up even though I am on the do not disturb register, when they do, I just hand the phone to my seven year old and tell her to "tell the nice man/woman about your day at school!  

Wandering, on 05 April 2012 - 03:14 AM, said:

He's quite old now though Isn't he? You would have to be either a little bit crazy, or honest and alot of stupid to say what our good friend the councillor did.

Sorry Wandering, I worded that badly, I agree, right at the start of the paragraph I opened with I do not think just a belief shows one to be losing faculties. I should have made that more prominent and clearer and focused less on Cooper. I do not think he is honest and a lot of stupid, I think that more might come from this at some stage.

Wandering, on 05 April 2012 - 03:14 AM, said:

True. I was purely emotionally invested in the idea of life after death until a few experiences changed me. The most eye opening one was seeing ghosts. Nothing else can explain what it was or what it did. Not from a distance, not in the rain at a distance, not with a crappy cell phone video on youtube, within 3 metres of me. That was a surprise I can tell you now.

Although...If there's ghosts around, what's the deal with reincarnation?! Can't work! Unless there's a queue....Wouldn't surprise me actually...

I have not had such an experience, I think when I was younger still in my late teens I had convinced myself things like the afterlife existed. Losing some people close to me sobered me up quite a bit and I find the afterlife a very difficult concept to quantify and believe in now. My wife believes in spirits, which is strange as in most subjects she leaves me in the dust as far as skepticism goes. She canot tell me why, just that she does. She claims to have had some sort of window pane breaking experience, which I think is perfectly possible if the structure she was in at the time experienced a shift in structural load bearing or some sort of geological shift.

Wandering, on 05 April 2012 - 03:14 AM, said:

Where do I sign up!

I know, the shallow male in me was rather impressed to begin with as well. Now that I have a little girl, I just cannot help but be concerned that there are people out there who would use her for their own gain. If some slimy old bastage like Vorhillion ever touches her, I will gladly go to jail for my resultant actions.

Wandering, on 05 April 2012 - 03:14 AM, said:

Since we all observe the world differently, It's possible he was not even thinking about the 'shock value' his words would have. While I agree 100% with your premise, it means he would have to be conscious of what he is about to do, instead of just 'opening his mouth' which was the initial impression I go.

I also can't understand why he would think "Oh It's a good time to tell them my mums an alien now I've been elected! Honesty is the best policy!"

Only time will tell! If he gets given any

That is true, I too cannot say what is in the mans head, I just do know that shock value is a popular concept for day to day products right across to music. It just strikes me as a method that I see every day in most marketing. As you say time will tell, but I am confident enough to be putting my ante up now. The guy is not on the level as far as I am concerned.

Cheers.

Edited by psyche101, 05 April 2012 - 03:48 AM.