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#1    pantodragon

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 02:50 PM

Archaeology is a disgusting habit. It’s the intellectual equivalent of sticking one’s nose into one’s own faeces.

And, quite literally, that’s what archaeologists do when they find the preserved remains of some poor sod that has been caught in a snowstorm crossing an Alpine pass – they poke their grubby little fingers into his stomach and intestines, exploring his **** and stomach contents for remnants of his last meal.

Archaeology is a sick obsession with the dead (I say “sick” but any obsession is sick.) Archaeologists make plaster casts of body cavities found in volcanic ash, the victim frozen in the final, excruciating throws of death. Bodies are found in various states of decay: they might be skeletons, or mummies, each with a leering rictus of black teeth and skin stretched over a fleshless head like a face lift gone horribly wrong, or half-rotted corpses of sacrificial victims stained bog-black with the garroting rope still tightly wound round the neck. These grotesque monsters are exhibited for our delectation and amusement in museums --- the modern acceptable version of the freak show.

Archaeology is a sick obsession with the meaningless trivia of life. While any sane person throws away last week’s shopping list, archaeologists carefully preserve any they find.

Archaeology is a sick obsession with cess pits and rubbish tips. We throw our hands up in horror when we see Brazilians or Indians sifting through mounds of filth, of rotting food and the discarded detritus of civilisation, in the rubbish tips of Sao Paulo or Calcutta, yet when archaeologists sift through the filth and detritus of ancient middens, it is deemed a worthy occupation.

Archaeology picks up what others throw away and then sells it. It has all the unsavoury atmosphere of the second hand shop i.e. rank and filthy.

Archaeology is as sick as the minds of the museum curators that carefully preserve, and lovingly handle, an Andy Warhol hair piece and its container --- a brown bag on the cover of which has spread a large stain of grease from Warhol’s long dead body.


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Posted 22 April 2013 - 03:32 PM

I'm not sure if this is meant to be a joke or you really do have an aversion to the acquiring of knowledge.


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Posted 22 April 2013 - 03:34 PM

Then live in darkness and hearsay.  I would rather dig through dirt and know the truth than to live in an Ivory tower and be ignorant.

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 04:11 PM

View PostRlyeh, on 22 April 2013 - 03:32 PM, said:

I'm not sure if this is meant to be a joke or you really do have an aversion to the acquiring of knowledge.

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 04:14 PM

View PostDarkwind, on 22 April 2013 - 03:34 PM, said:

Then live in darkness and hearsay.  I would rather dig through dirt and know the truth than to live in an Ivory tower and be ignorant.

You're talking about living in darkness?!  By your own admission you're blasting darkness out your rear end, Darkwind, so how often you get to see the light, I can only guess!  Also, any idea that you reach the light by grubbing in the dirt is pure fantasy.........and I thought it was well known that it is academics that live in ivory towers.

Edited by pantodragon, 22 April 2013 - 04:16 PM.


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Posted 22 April 2013 - 04:21 PM

While any sane person throws away last week’s shopping list, archaeologists carefully preserve any they find.

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No way, Morrison`s and Tesco`s is not that old!!

But I am burying mine from now on,,,,for the future of mankind.

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In an ideal World a law would be passed were NO guns were allowed and all those out there destroyed, trouble is the law makers are not going to take a risk of trying to pass that without making sure they are armed first.

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 04:26 PM

Without archaeology, we wouldn't know many things we know now.
I guess your whole point is that knowledge is something we shouldn't have. Moot point, if you ask me. Your opinions are your opinions though.
Why are you on the internet if you believe nothing of what people have accomplished? Due to your earlier posts, we shouldn't have created the internet either, because we are incompetent. Seems to sum up what you're talking about.


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Posted 22 April 2013 - 04:31 PM

After reading a number of your topics, this is the one that tells me for sure that you’re a poe and a troll. Nobody can be this ignorant and arrogant

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 04:34 PM

View Postfreetoroam, on 22 April 2013 - 04:21 PM, said:

While any sane person throws away last week’s shopping list, archaeologists carefully preserve any they find.

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No way, Morrison`s and Tesco`s is not that old!!

But I am burying mine from now on,,,,for the future of mankind.

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Well I'm glad of your concern for the future archaeologists, ensuring they will have something to do, but museums also require exhibits and I'm sure they would be only too glad to receive donations of your old receipts.


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Posted 22 April 2013 - 04:40 PM

View PostAliveInDeath7, on 22 April 2013 - 04:26 PM, said:

Without archaeology, we wouldn't know many things we know now.
I guess your whole point is that knowledge is something we shouldn't have. Moot point, if you ask me. Your opinions are your opinions though.
Why are you on the internet if you believe nothing of what people have accomplished? Due to your earlier posts, we shouldn't have created the internet either, because we are incompetent. Seems to sum up what you're talking about.

Knowledge is power and as such is open to abuse.  Understanding gets round this problem.

Are you on the internet because of what people have accomplished?  It seems to be an odd reason.  I went to China to see what it was like and came back deciding I did not want to live there.  With the internet I have little choice: it will soon be impossible to function in our society without using the internet.  I had best make the best of it, then.


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Posted 22 April 2013 - 04:42 PM

View PostOdin11, on 22 April 2013 - 04:31 PM, said:

After reading a number of your topics, this is the one that tells me for sure that you’re a poe and a troll. Nobody can be this ignorant and arrogant

Old insult, Sunny Jim.........that tack has already been tried on some of my earleir threads.  I think the attackers have found that weapon ineffectual and re trying out others.  The next obvious ploy is to google pantodragon but I'll save you the trouble.....that too has also been done.

Edited by pantodragon, 22 April 2013 - 04:46 PM.


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Posted 22 April 2013 - 04:55 PM

View Postpantodragon, on 22 April 2013 - 04:34 PM, said:

Well I'm glad of your concern for the future archaeologists, ensuring they will have something to do, but museums also require exhibits and I'm sure they would be only too glad to receive donations of your old receipts.
Well I`m glad you`re glad and glad they will be glad so that makes me glad too. Smiles all round.

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 04:57 PM

Whilst I have no wish to engage you in debate, (I have seen the futility of that strategy in this and other threads), may I ask what you hope to achieve in your numerous and admittedly eloquent posts, especially when you appear completely dismissive of any opinion other than your own?

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 05:13 PM

I don't think archeology is an obsession with death, but more of a celebration of life. Finding out what the person ate, or drank, or how they lived and how they died. It tells us how different their lives were from ours. What were their dreams, what we're their hopes? What were there fears? I also feel it is a study of humanity as well, because even though they lived in a different time and place they were just like you and me at one time.


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Posted 22 April 2013 - 05:16 PM

View Postealdwita, on 22 April 2013 - 04:57 PM, said:

Whilst I have no wish to engage you in debate, (I have seen the futility of that strategy in this and other threads), may I ask what you hope to achieve in your numerous and admittedly eloquent posts, especially when you appear completely dismissive of any opinion other than your own?
Now you`ve done it! Pantsdragon is not going to like that!

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