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Alien Jack the Ripper!

[dharma warrior]

This is the work of aliens alright, illegal aliens!!
Those damn mezkins are stealing cow organs to make that infernal menudo. Who the hell eats that stuff anyway? The soup goes in the stomach, the stomach doesn't go in the soup!!
Gol dang it!

[Mallaliak]

ohio state buckeyes, on 07 January 2012 - 10:19 PM, said:

Then why did it ever become something the FBI Investigated ? I mean it should have been happening for ever and the ranchers would have never thought nothing about it .

Let's say now that the FBI did investigate this phenomen when it started. What says they are still doing so? They might have come to the conclussions it was common scavangers, but people (media) are rarely satisfied with the simple answer. What will they listen to?

If a story seems unknown and alien to them, and someone investigates and finds it to be actually something "natural and not as uncommon as one would think", is this worth as much attention anymore? Passing it off as extra terrestials or claim that there has been no suspect for it still earns you attention.

Personally the basic idea and image of cattle mutilation to me, now looks like farm animals attacked and pecked clean by local ravens.

Dailymail.co.uk - This is for example what a quick search of a common scavanger attacking farm animals yielded. (And it's not the incident in sweden I mentioned either)

[Timonthy]

Oh yet another case of scavengers picking at a corpse which appears to be 'surgical precision'.

You should see some of the steaks I surgically incise late at night, with my big man teeth....

[spooki]

Really for me the fact that we always hear about this with cows is interesting for many reasons....they always tend to occur at night too which as was previously mentioned means they would be closer to the ground and more easily ambushed by a predator. Now, I have zero experience with cows beyond petting zoos with my kids but they don't seem very fast or smart...I just think some predator that wouldn't normally go after cattle in daylight when they are awake and presumably in larger groups has learned that at night they are a much easier target. The lack of blood is an interesting thing to look at but eh I don't think this is something a common predator wouldn't  do. Any time that I have stumbled across carrion in the woods it never really appears to be much of a bloodbath anyway lol.

[Astral Hillbilly]

star energy, on 07 January 2012 - 02:25 PM, said:

Ok so how do police know when a person is killed, that they we're mutilated before or after death.  There"s something that tells them this.  What I don't know.  Like when a person is burned to death.  They know if the person was dead or alive before the burning. With all the evidence they have, or don't have on this cow, I would look to the sky too.

I'm not certain about some deaths, but with a fire it's easy. If they were alive during the fire there would be smoke in their lungs from breathing it in. A lack of smoke tells them the person wasn't breathing during the fire.

[ThePhantomFlanFlinger]

Farmerboy, on 07 January 2012 - 07:47 PM, said:

I am a Farmer and I have experienced these things many times, and most of us just get on with it. Then you get the people who want to make aa big song and dance about it. In this case the animal was sick and isolated from the others, a standard practice. It also occured at night, the cattle would be either sleepingor lying down chewing their cud and wouldnt see much. Ive had to slip into fields at 4am and calve cows and the rest of the herd were none the wiser. Cattle dont freak out as easily as people think and unless the scavenger was a direct threat i dont feel that they would have made a ruckus.

As for footprints you have to take into consideration the terrain, not all substrates produce footprints depending on how hard or grassy the ground was and if there were any they can be easy to miss if you dont know what you are looking for.

A couple of years ago two akitas took down a deer on my land and you wouldnt have known they were there only for seeing them in the act. I went down the next day, no blood, no footprints and they were big dogs.

Youre a Farmer(boy).....?...i would never have guessed it...... .

Edited by BrianPotter, 08 January 2012 - 05:41 PM.

[Zarifa]

Farmers do adapt and move on, even if they can't explain what actually occurred. If you consider that the majority of animals this occurs to are cattle, one could make the connection to the majority of animals we consume with such gusto. Therefore, if other intelligences were studying our biology, it would make sense to study our foodsource as well, especially in light of the focus on reproductive organs. We do question the effects of hormones delivered to animals on our own bodies and development. Many people have reported being the subjects of alien studies, with a perceived reproductive focus. Does that make them wrong, just because you are not aware of it having happened to you? People once scoffed at the existance microbes also, before we had the tools to detect them. Care to give up your antibiotics now? It may be dangerous to stay stuck in current science to explain all things. Could it be that we haven't all the tools we need yet to detect other lifeforms?

[DONTEATUS]

Zarifa, on 08 January 2012 - 07:09 PM, said:

Farmers do adapt and move on, even if they can't explain what actually occurred. If you consider that the majority of animals this occurs to are cattle, one could make the connection to the majority of animals we consume with such gusto. Therefore, if other intelligences were studying our biology, it would make sense to study our foodsource as well, especially in light of the focus on reproductive organs. We do question the effects of hormones delivered to animals on our own bodies and development. Many people have reported being the subjects of alien studies, with a perceived reproductive focus. Does that make them wrong, just because you are not aware of it having happened to you? People once scoffed at the existance microbes also, before we had the tools to detect them. Care to give up your antibiotics now? It may be dangerous to stay stuck in current science to explain all things. Could it be that we haven't all the tools we need yet to detect other lifeforms?

All good points Zarifa ! a bit Star Trekie but all in good time we shall someday get to the bottom of these mysteries !
Welcome to the Forum keep postin !

[reggie2011]

hehehe funny i recon we should be greatfull there doing it to cows not us..the aliens are sooo bad ,have u ever walked inside ur local abotwa latly? even our grocerystores are filled to the brim with guts and blood from cows

[thalassinus]

has anyone heard about the human mutilations, done in the same  manner?

[RingFenceTheCity]

Lilly, on 07 January 2012 - 03:19 AM, said:

I question this conclusion, if the mutilation took place post-mortum there would have been very little bleeding, consistent with what was seen. I wonder how it was determined that the mutilation took place while the animal was still alive?

Other cases with animal mutilations have talked about exsanguination in the context of a cryptid animal which drinks the blood of it's victim. It's a classic story and a well written article imo. The first issue of a magazine (I've forgotten the title) started with a region of farms that had lost 50,000 cattle to mutilation attacks!! The photos and coverage were amazing. I'll never forget. I didn't even look at the photos of this one. The cattle there had three red scratch marks down their flanks and the legs bones were broken as of it had been dropped from a height.

The only conclusion which fits is one that the public doesn't want to know about i.e. a very large bird able to pick up a cow and drop it so that it's immobile. The drinking of the blood and digestion of the soft tissues comes next. Not a pretty sight I would imagine..

[Farmerboy]

tailormaneinafog, on 09 January 2012 - 04:53 PM, said:

Other cases with animal mutilations have talked about exsanguination in the context of a cryptid animal which drinks the blood of it's victim. It's a classic story and a well written article imo. The first issue of a magazine (I've forgotten the title) started with a region of farms that had lost 50,000 cattle to mutilation attacks!! The photos and coverage were amazing. I'll never forget. I didn't even look at the photos of this one. The cattle there had three red scratch marks down their flanks and the legs bones were broken as of it had been dropped from a height.The only conclusion which fits is one that the public doesn't want to know about i.e. a very large bird able to pick up a cow and drop it so that it's immobile. The drinking of the blood and digestion of the soft tissues comes next. Not a pretty sight I would imagine..

A megaglowbird!???

[Englishgent]

Lack of blood at the scene means nothing unusual.  Very soon after an animal dies, blow flies are attracted to the carcass, lay their eggs and produce thousands of maggots. These insects will devour the blood as quickly as they devour the flesh. That includes any blood spilt around the body due to cuts or mutilation by whatever means.
Lack of blood at the crime scene does not indicate anything paranormal.

Edited by Englishgent, 10 January 2012 - 02:57 AM.

[DONTEATUS]

Those blood thirsty maggots !!! wheres the fun in that ?