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#271    Ellapennella

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Posted 02 May 2013 - 05:30 PM

View Postpoppet, on 13 April 2013 - 11:25 AM, said:

i was just pointing out that their are some who profit from war , in fact for those who make weapons war is good for business.
Why is war profitable for these international global elitist ? why and when did war become profitable ?


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Posted 02 May 2013 - 05:32 PM

View Postpoppet, on 13 April 2013 - 11:25 AM, said:

i was just pointing out that their are some who profit from war , in fact for those who make weapons war is good for business.
even though it creates huge debt?


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Posted 02 May 2013 - 06:17 PM

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Excellent summation you provided there.  I have long thought that some sort of tactical nuclear device(s) might have been used.  And certainly the lateral displacement would seem to support that theory.

But it's entirely possible that any combination of weapons or devices may have been used.  Thermite AND nuclear.  That, only because if the dust shows presence of thermite, it seems likely it was there.  I don't think one necessarily excludes the other.


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Posted 03 May 2013 - 12:56 AM

View PostBabe Ruth, on 02 May 2013 - 06:17 PM, said:

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Excellent summation you provided there.  I have long thought that some sort of tactical nuclear device(s) might have been used.

You don't seem to understand, the the mini-nuke story was a HOAX!

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Posted 03 May 2013 - 12:58 AM

View Postpoppet, on 02 May 2013 - 05:21 PM, said:


To let  you know a little secret, the mini-nuke story was placed on the internet as a HOAX in order to discredit 911 Truthers, and it worked!

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Posted 03 May 2013 - 01:00 AM

View Postskyeagle409, on 03 May 2013 - 12:58 AM, said:

To let  you know a little secret, the mini-nuke story was placed on the internet as a HOAX in order to discredit 911 Truthers, and it worked!
You might be telling the truth for once. There is so much evidence that the events of 9/11 could not happen the way they have been portrayed that there is no need to bring in the idea of nukes. Some explosives had to be used in order for the building to collapse the way it did. No doubt about it.


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Posted 03 May 2013 - 01:11 AM

View PostProfessor Buzzkill, on 03 May 2013 - 01:00 AM, said:

You might be telling the truth for once.

There was no question that the mini-nuke story was a hoax and I even posted a reference to that fact, but, all a person had to do was to look at the clean-up operations at ground zero, which by no means, supported the use of mini-nukes.

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Some explosives had to be used in order for the building to collapse the way it did. No doubt about it.

Not true at all. Verinage demolitions do not use explosives to collapse structures in the same manner as the WTC buildings.. Check it out.



Is it any wonder why I have attacked 911 conspiracy websites for spreading disinformation and as is the case of 'Pilots for 911 Truth,' the spreading of outright lies?

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Posted 03 May 2013 - 04:20 PM

View PostReann, on 02 May 2013 - 05:30 PM, said:

Why is war profitable for these international global elitist ? why and when did war become profitable ?

Who profits from war, you don’t really need me to walk you through who profited from 9 /11 do you ! well it sure wasn’t the Iraqi’s or the citizens of  Afghanistan was it ?their country raped of it’s natural resources, the oil fields divided between the big oil companies , Haliburton securing huge construction contracts after the military had flattened the existing infrastructure ,and how about Halliburton charging $45 for a six-pack of Coca-Cola ,I think you need to do a bit of researching to find out who does profit from war.
Try this for starters
http://www.dailykos....en-A-HUGE-Issue


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Posted 03 May 2013 - 05:52 PM

View PostThe New Richard Nixon, on 02 May 2013 - 05:32 PM, said:

even though it creates huge debt?

to you and me ...............yes to others no.

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: June 17, 2004

New Halliburton Miscues Revealed: $45 Cases Of Coke, "$85,000 Oil Filters", Employees Paid Not To Work

Whistleblowers' statements confirm: Halliburton gouging the federal government at every turn - from laundry service to supply truck repairs; Haliburton defying Army orders and inflating prices by up to 300%

Schumer, Durbin, Waxman call on the GAO to launch a full investigation into all Haliburton contracts and requisitions

Halliburton equivalent of the "$600 toilet seat" unco

US Senators Charles E. Schumer and Richard Durbin and Congressman Henry Waxman today revealed shocking examples of jaw-dropping price gouging and extraordinary waste by Halliburton and its subsidiaries that have put our men and women in uniform at risk and cost Americans billions in misspent tax dollars. Pointing to Halliburton's equivalents of the famed "$600 toilet seats", including $45 dollar cases of coke and "$85,000 oil filters". Based on these reports Schumer, Durbin and Waxman called for a full investigation by the GAO into every Halliburton contract and requisition.
"Waste, neglect, lack of oversight–these are exactly the things we do not need in a situation as volatile as the one in the Iraq," said Schumer, pointing to an incredibly overpriced can of soda. "These blatant examples of price gouging are reminiscent of the famed "$600 toilet seat" and are exactly what we do not need when our troops are in harms way and wanting for the resources they need and we are so squeezed for funding here at home for such vital needs as health care and education."
"The statements of the six individuals...portray a company and contracting environment that has run amok," wrote Waxman in a recent letter.
“The reports of fraudulent and atrocious behavior on the part of Halliburton and its subsidiaries are stunning – driving empty trucks back and forth while billing the federal government for each trip; charging the taxpayers for 240,000 cases of soda instead of the 240,000 cans they actually delivered; abandoning $85,000 vehicles by the side of the road when they got flat tires rather than making repairs because each truck was just another cost-plus item on a federal contract,” said Durbin. “When you consider the fact that we have 138,000 of our finest men and women risking their lives in Iraq, how can we possibly turn our backs on this type of outrageous profiteering? Why would Congress or the Administration even hesitate about getting to the bottom of a situation that may have cost the taxpayers millions so far and may cost us more in the future?”
Recent statements by Halliburton whistleblowers have revealed a pattern of waste, negligence and lack of proper oversight. The statements also pointed to a concerted effort within the company to hide out of control costs. Procurement supervisors told employees to break down large requisitions so they cost less than $2,500 each -- the level below which they would not be scrutinized. According to a whistleblower, it didn't matter how unreasonably high a bid was, if it was broken up into segments of under $2,500 it was virtually guaranteed to be accepted. The most egregious whistleblower revelations include:
$45 cases of Coke: Halliburton subcontracted with La Nouvelle, a Kuwaiti company, to provide 37,200 cases of soda and ice per month for the remarkable price of $45 for a 30 can case. In one La Nouvelle delivered 37,200 only cans of soda–even though 37,200 cases had been order.
"$85,000 Oil Filters": A former Halliburton "convoy commander" revealed that Halliburton refused to perform even the most basic maintenance on their trucks, such as replacing oil filters, performing oil changes or replacing flat tires. Once a truck got a flat or the filter stopped working, the truck would be abandoned and replaced by a brand new $85,000 truck. One employee drove a truck 59,000 miles without an oil change before it had to be abandoned. Another of the whistleblowers actually cleaned his filter with gasoline to keep his truck working. One truck was abandoned because of a $25 hydraulic line needed to assist the clutch. The line from the mechanics was, "We may not have any filters, but Iraq has plenty of oil."
$100 for 15 lbs Bags of Laundry: Another contract with La Nouvelle for laundry services had a fixed price of between $1 million and $1.2 million per month. Because so little laundry was being done, Halliburton was paying approximately $100 per 15-pound bag of laundry. Under a separate subcontract with the same company, Halliburton was paying on $28 per bag. When a whistleblower brought this to her superiors' attention and recommended renegotiating the million dollar contract, she was told to discontinue her analysis and cease her attempts to fix the problem.
Embroidered Hand Towels: Halliburton ordered embroidered hand towels at 3 times the cost of unembroidered hand towels.
Empty Convoys: Convoys would routinely run with several empty trucks. One convoy ran with 28 empty trucks. These trucks weren't decoys for security purposes -- in fact, they undermined security since some convoys would be as much as two miles long with only three security vehicles protecting them.
Falsified Time Sheets: Employees who had no work to do were told to submit false time sheets claiming 12 hours of work per day and to walk around and "look busy."
Such price gouging was designed to allow Halliburton to maximize the profit from their no bid, plus cost contracts. Given the number and seriousness of these revelations a full investigation by the GAO into every contract secured by Halliburton and its subsidiaries is clearly required. Only by understanding how widespread these outrageous actions are will the proper steps be able to be taken to end such waste, fraud and abuse and insure that America's men and women in uniform are provided with the highest quality services and support at the best cost.

http://www.schumer.s...222&&year=2004


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Posted 03 May 2013 - 06:37 PM

View PostReann, on 02 May 2013 - 05:30 PM, said:

Why is war profitable for these international global elitist ? why and when did war become profitable ?

View PostThe New Richard Nixon, on 02 May 2013 - 05:32 PM, said:

even though it creates huge debt?
For Governments, yes; but for the firms that have contracts to supply to these governments, it's a different kettle of worms. And as we all know, that's who the power really lies with. Or that's with whom the power really lies, if you prefer.

Life is a hideous business, and from the background behind what we know of it peer daemoniacal hints of truth which make it sometimes a thousandfold more hideous.

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Posted 03 May 2013 - 06:54 PM

FBI Report Implicates Saudi Government in 9/11

Posted on April 29, 2013 by WashingtonsBlog
But “We Can’t Afford to Irritate the Saudis” By Actually Looking Into Who Backed 9/11 … “Especially with Oil Prices Going Up Now”

http://www.washingto...dis-in-911.html

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Posted 03 May 2013 - 08:30 PM

View Postregeneratia, on 03 May 2013 - 06:54 PM, said:

FBI Report Implicates Saudi Government in 9/11

Posted on April 29, 2013 by WashingtonsBlog
But “We Can’t Afford to Irritate the Saudis” By Actually Looking Into Who Backed 9/11 … “Especially with Oil Prices Going Up Now”

http://www.washingto...dis-in-911.html

We will simply come up with oil saving techology that will work for us in the long term.

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Posted 03 May 2013 - 10:58 PM

View Postskyeagle409, on 03 May 2013 - 08:30 PM, said:

We will simply come up with oil saving techology that will work for us in the long term.

I believe that has already been done.

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Posted 03 May 2013 - 11:05 PM

View Postregeneratia, on 03 May 2013 - 10:58 PM, said:

I believe that has already been done.

And, further cuts in foreign oil imports are forthcoming.

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 04:25 PM

another good article from Ed Ward

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RADIATION.
In response to this myriad of disease, a statement of environmental mercury has been claimed. That claim is not verified in testing of air and particle debris samples by private citizens and organizations. It is possible the mercury quotes are from the federal source of science, the United States Geological Survey’s analysis of the WTC dust debris.


The USGS’s leached analysis did show mercury at the 3rd lowest concentration of metals at the mean value (mv) of 0.011 parts per Billion (ppB). The most abundant element concentration in the leaching tests was Strontium at 1,000 ppB (1 ppM) – 100,000 times more than the mercury value.
It appears that the leaching of the sample was only partial and inadequate as the reader will see from the spectrometry values. Why would only mercury be quoted when there were so many other more dangerous elements at higher concentrations than mercury?
While the regular elements like Copper – mv 136 ppM, Silver – mv 1.66 ppM, and Vanadium – mv 31 ppM, some of the other significant elements were: Barium – mv 533 ppM, Strontium – mv 727 ppM, Cerium – mv 91 ppM, Yttrium – mv 57 ppM, Lanthanum – mv 46 ppM, Molybdenum – mv 11 ppM, Thorium – mv 9 ppM, Uranium – mv 3 ppM, Beryllium – mv 3 ppM, and Cesium – mv 0.6 ppM – partial listing.
For readers that are not familiar with most of these elements, here is a link to their relevance. There is also a claim of environmental benzene that ‘permeated’ the area in jet fuel as the cause of all of these problems. Once again, we have the quoting of the miraculous jet fuel that burns up in a massive fireball in the first few minutes, then like Christ’s feeding the multitudes, still causes a massive fire inside that reaches the temperatures of a Hades that weakens massive fire proofed steel beams and trusses, then resurrects itself on the permeated ground to cause cancer in one hour of limited exposure.



The US Government’s usage of atomic bombs at the WTC, by Ed Ward MD


Sources:Declassified August 1958: Mere fact that the U. S. has developed atomic munitions suitable for use in demolition work.”Declassified January 1967, The fact that we are interested in and are continuing studies on a weapon for minimizing the emerging flux of neutrons and internal induced activity.” Declassified March 1976, The fact of weapon laboratory interest in Minimum Residual Radiation (MRR) devices. The fact of successful development of MRR devices.

more here.

http://www.veteranst...2013/05/22/911/

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we were discussing agent orange and the blow back from using it in vietnam well after 40 years they have just decided on the compensation claim ,i wonder how long it will take the first responders and the other victims of Ground Zero to be properly diagnosed and compensated.

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Early Agent B cannister (78mm) with self actuator
by Alex Graham


The Veterans Benefit Administration (VBA) has just announced a new presumptive exposure entitlement due to Agent B for Vietnam Veterans. As usual, this one will only apply to Vets with “boots on the ground” in country from January 9th, 1961 and May 7th, 1975. Preliminary rules are still being drawn up, but the latest word is that it will fall under 38 Code of Federal Regulations (CFR) Chapter 4,  § 4.114 (digestive diseases) Diagnostic Code (DC) 7301:
Moderate; pulling pain on attempting work or aggravated by movements of the body, or occasional episodes of colic pain, nausea, constipation (perhaps alternating with diarrhea) or abdominal distension.
The compensation picture appears to be a maximum of 10% now, but that may change as Congressional hearings progress.
Agent B was widely dispersed near Forward Operating Bases, Fire Bases and remote operating locations via slicks. Dispersal around larger Air and Army Bases was accomplished by C-7, C-123 and C-130 aircraft configured in the cargo mode. Apparently Air America aircraft engaged in this as well, but those records are still classified.  Agent B was manufactured by several different chemical companies during the course of the war.  Some of the more recognized ones include Adolph Coors Co. (light yellow containers) and the Schlitz Mfg. Co (white with brown lettering and stripes). The canisters were cylindrical and approximately the same diameter as an 81 mm. mortar round.  During the early part of the war, the canisters were devoid of an engagement pin and required a special tool to actuate the device. This was affectionately known as a “church key”. Later versions came equipted with self-contained actuators.
Agent B, or as some of you Vets may remember it, Agent Beer, was widely used as a depression suppressant. Unfortunately, the CDC has now determined it actually increased depression. The long term physical debility associated with this agent appears for the most part to be a large, distended abdomen in men. Doctors now refer to this as a “beer belly”. VA physicians have determined that compensation is due when a Vet can no longer see “winky” while standing and looking down.
If you suffer from this malady or have other friends who are Vietnam Vets that do, please tell them to contact a VSO or file a claim with the VA directly.  Most AMLEG, AMVET and VFW bartenders have been briefed on this and have all the details if you are unsure whether you qualify. Remember, the earlier you file your claim will result in benefits accruing when VA finally approves this disease for compensation.

http://www.veteranst...3/05/21/252733/





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