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Heya Surge again...

So last night i was watching Dark skies movie :alien: ( again ), and while watching it, there was a scene, where some guy who explored/researched ufo based topics, said something in sense of " You are not alone in this, this is happening to many others "...

Firstly i don't want to make this UFO based topic :alien::no: !

Secondly, the question here is...

Has anyone here on UM found himself in a weird of strange situation a some sort of conspiracy perhaps? :ph34r: Have you seen things that you red about on internet/newspaper/TV, and perhaps this events happened to you?

Have you ever seen any sort of unexplained phenomena, creatures, events, simply unexplained?

No proof is needed, only to share a story or two, experience, i love to read about those here on UM, even when sounding out there. :D

The case in movie was that "greys", yup those classical alien beings, were experimenting on a family/families, it just showed one, but the guy said it was happening to others.. so i wondered..

Do share folks, always happy of a good read, especially if from personal experience!

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I am part of a conspiracy movement every years around the same date, December 25th. Now don't laugh yet, please, the Santa Klaus conspiracy involve the News shows, the NORAD, millions of adultes of all classes and professions, kids who realise Santa Klaus is not real, but are told to keep the magic alive for their younger siblings, etc.

The number of participants and the way even the most serious institution of our society take part to it, it's kind of scary.

The April's fool day conspiracy is less focused, as everyone try to pull their own prank unrelated to the next.

These two example are kind of harmless, but makes you wonder who would rise up and stand for the truth if some real conspiracy was going on and who they could rely on to help them. :huh:

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Wow that crazy you brought this up. I blogged about my haunting/UFO experience from back in the 90's. Well just yesterday I heard a radio broadcast where this UFO guy was talking about my exact area, the lower Hudson Valley, and how from the 80's through the 90's he had recorded over 300 reports of stories very similar to mine. Blew my mind.

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I am part of a conspiracy movement every years around the same date, December 25th. Now don't laugh yet, please, the Santa Klaus conspiracy involve the News shows, the NORAD, millions of adultes of all classes and professions, kids who realise Santa Klaus is not real, but are told to keep the magic alive for their younger siblings, etc.

The number of participants and the way even the most serious institution of our society take part to it, it's kind of scary.

The April's fool day conspiracy is less focused, as everyone try to pull their own prank unrelated to the next.

These two example are kind of harmless, but makes you wonder who would rise up and stand for the truth if some real conspiracy was going on and who they could rely on to help them. :huh:

Sounds like a deep conspiracy, so i guess your in from 31.12 to 1.1. too? Same situation, no Santa...

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I'm in from 31.12 to 1.1 too, of course, giving too much importance to a night which isn't so special after all. According importance to a not so precise number attached to a not so proven event. But I'm a party sucker, I can't refuse to take part of some celebration with nice people. :whistle:

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I have been in involved in a conspiracy to pervert the cause of justice, bought about by the state Attorney-General against a company I'm a director of. Two year investigation, two years in the State Supreme Court ( win), then they appealed, more time in the Court of appeals, now with 3 Supreme Court judges. Won again.

I feel things are still cooking under the surface, they might come up with some other insidious attack from another quarter. dry.png

No aliens or UFOs though.

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We've had several experiences with shadow beings in particular.

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I have been in involved in a conspiracy to pervert the cause of justice, bought about by the state Attorney-General against a company I'm a director of. Two year investigation, two years in the State Supreme Court ( win), then they appealed, more time in the Court of appeals, now with 3 Supreme Court judges. Won again.

I feel things are still cooking under the surface, they might come up with some other insidious attack from another quarter. dry.png

No aliens or UFOs though.

Interesting, still the more he tries the more he fails to achieve hes goal, as i red it. I think that with 2 court resolutions in your favor i think, trying again will be only hes waste of time and money.

Why is he trying to take your firm anyway? Oh and don't need aliens or ufos, conspiracies can be within our lives too, like yours.

We've had several experiences with shadow beings in particular.

Do tell more i am interested!

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No.

Or is that what they want me to believe?

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I was watching a documentary on the evolution of robotics and where it's expected to be in 20 years.

At the end of the segment it showed a small robot similar looking to the robot dogs you get from the toy store but with a human shaped head. It's eyes glowed red and it said "the Cardinal of Paris is plotting" and ended abrubtly.

It interested me and I have yet to find anything of the episode.

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Interesting, still the more he tries the more he fails to achieve hes goal, as i red it. I think that with 2 court resolutions in your favour I think, trying again will be only hes waste of time and money.

hunbdreds of thousands of dollars so far ... when they loose, its the taxpayer that pays. But you are right, a high court national appeal would have to justify why the other FOUR judges (now) were wrong.

Doesnt stop them though .... these are the people that put refugee children behind razor wire in detention centres and then abuse our own human rights commissioner for a reoprt on it they themselves commissioned (and then try to bribe her to withdraw)

besides the courts dont work like that, if you have 4 aces, you cant play them unless you meet the raised stakes. Other people ( nice barristers) were so p***ed off at it that they raised the stake themselves ( pro-bono representation )

It can take one hundreds of dollars just to have a motion registered for presentation . (And then when it doesnt appear you are told they never got it, there is no such judge by that name and the guy that signed it, ... actually he quit. "What? We saw him yesterday when he signed it, when did he quit ?"

"yesterday just after he signed your form."

... that in itself seems rather suspicious :whistle:

Why is he trying to take your firm anyway? Oh and don't need aliens or ufos, conspiracies can be within our lives too, like yours.

Company assets. 300 acres of pristine river and rainforest fronted property and several houses and associated developments.

When they case was rapidly sinking the crown Solicitor blurted out something like " But your honour ... these people live pristine land, they have no mortgage, all these houses ... they make money and survive by only charging each person $30 a week and putting on festivals and events ... that is outrageous!'

Judge ( who was on to them from the beginning , decided we had done nothing wrong and were actually nice people) : "Yes, they managed their company very successfully didnt they ?"

Crown Solicitor : < fume >

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Both of us have been up close and personal with shadow people, and both of us have made physical contact with them. They can be "solid" when they want to, and they can touch you and otherwise affect their surroundings. If you try to touch them, your hand just goes through as if they were made of smoke, and they dissipate. There are large, humanoid types that are over 6 ft. tall, and there are smaller animal-like beings. They are about the size of a medium-sized dog. All of the shadow beings move extremely fast. They sort of "whoosh." It seem that they are impossibly fast. Sometimes they make a vibrational noise when they enter a room. They can go through walls and ceilings, "fly" through the air, and they seem to be interested in electronics. They often watch people sleep, but we don't only experience them when we're lying down. It's true that they are "blacker than black." They're 3D, not like shadows on the wall. They don't seem human, or as if they ever were. They seem alien, not in an extra-terrestrial way, but just not from here. Maybe interdimensional beings or even thoughtforms. I had the impression that they may may be drawing energy from the electronics.

We've also seen white shapes, but they are less formed. We have almost nightly poltergeist type activity that has seemed to coincide with onset of the shadow beings, although I can't say for certain that they are responsible for it. We have taken some EVPs and seen a few apparitions that seemed like spirits of deceased people.

Oh...I forgot to say that they have no discernible facial features at all, and I've had one about 2 inches from my face. Just darkness. No eyes or anything.

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I am part of a conspiracy movement every years around the same date, December 25th. Now don't laugh yet, please, the Santa Klaus conspiracy involve the News shows, the NORAD, millions of adultes of all classes and professions, kids who realise Santa Klaus is not real, but are told to keep the magic alive for their younger siblings, etc.

The number of participants and the way even the most serious institution of our society take part to it, it's kind of scary.

The April's fool day conspiracy is less focused, as everyone try to pull their own prank unrelated to the next.

These two example are kind of harmless, but makes you wonder who would rise up and stand for the truth if some real conspiracy was going on and who they could rely on to help them. :huh:

You sir have just opened my eyes. I always wondered why my wife and daughter always made me and my son go to bed early the 24th... there's gonna be a conversation had tomorrow.

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We've had several experiences with shadow beings in particular.

I am not a believer in ghosts/demens etc, but I had a shadow-person type experience as a child decades before the topic was ever talked about. One day a decade or so ago I was reading a story about these instances and the same thing happened to me. I still sleep with the light on at night now

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Some years ago, thanks to the UMer's in the Dreams and Consciousness Threads, I began a kind of serious & deep personal regime of meditation.. I'd not meditated before...

Anyhow, to cut a long story short, I went into it quite skeptical, but was blown away by the things you can experience.. And by experience I'm not talking about dreamy stuff that has no basis in reality, but REAL **** that I used to read about and laugh at thinking that people had wild imaginations... I have felt the Vibrations, have seen the Greys & other unusual species one can only describe as alien.. Hell it has sure opened my eyes to the unseen forces in this world, and wiped the smirk of my face..

I've only caught glimpses... Fragments of dimensions, snippets, but over the years I've built an incomplete picture of the fundamentals of it all. So, yeah... It doesn't qualify as a conspiracy IMO because the truth is that everything......... And i mean everything......... Is spun from unseen forces that are both real and imagined...

The beauty of it is that anyone can experience it if they only open up and try.. The sad about it is people seldom do.

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Some years ago, thanks to the UMer's in the Dreams and Consciousness Threads, I began a kind of serious & deep personal regime of meditation.. I'd not meditated before...

Anyhow, to cut a long story short, I went into it quite skeptical, but was blown away by the things you can experience.. And by experience I'm not talking about dreamy stuff that has no basis in reality, but REAL **** that I used to read about and laugh at thinking that people had wild imaginations... I have felt the Vibrations, have seen the Greys & other unusual species one can only describe as alien.. Hell it has sure opened my eyes to the unseen forces in this world, and wiped the smirk of my face..

I've only caught glimpses... Fragments of dimensions, snippets, but over the years I've built an incomplete picture of the fundamentals of it all. So, yeah... It doesn't qualify as a conspiracy IMO because the truth is that everything......... And i mean everything......... Is spun from unseen forces that are both real and imagined...

The beauty of it is that anyone can experience it if they only open up and try.. The sad about it is people seldom do.

I haven't been as successful as you Professor T, but I do know first hand what you speak of. Ive almost PMed you a few times to see if you had any tips. I get stuck in these long road blocks where I cant even get into a vib state. Just never got around to it.

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@Back to earth; So it is greed and jealousy story... some people are just naturally bad, but since i do believe in karma ( only thing i actually believe ), and have seen its effects, it will eventually come back to harm them someway.

But i think you and your firm are pretty safe now!

@ChaosRose; I haven't seen any shadow people yet, i do believe they exist but in form of a backwater gov. agencies or hired guns, in sense of hush hush.

Since you gave such a good description i'll keep my eyes opened for any such errrr... people? Or what would you call them?

@Professor T; What sort of meditation are we talking about? Abit offside question do you smoke/drink, and what sort of food you eat? Home made or delivery/fast food?

Thanks so far, good reads! How people are bad from greed and power to greys and this shadow people.

Believe it or not i once saw a very interesting video footage cought on cctv.... I think others, here, have seen it too when this shadow person walks into a hotel.

I can't find it on YT but i think camera showed clear picture except this figure in darkness that enters the hotel, pretty weird stuff... even a newspaper wrote about this.

Even though i don't know what their intentions are, but since no one so far has died from meeting them i think they have their own agendas.

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I was watching a documentary on the evolution of robotics and where it's expected to be in 20 years.

At the end of the segment it showed a small robot similar looking to the robot dogs you get from the toy store but with a human shaped head. It's eyes glowed red and it said "the Cardinal of Paris is plotting" and ended abrubtly.

It interested me and I have yet to find anything of the episode.

Well alot of smart, powerfull and rich people are saying this last years that AI might be the end of us. I agree, one fear i got is when one smart robot makes more smart robots... Believe it or not, but terminator is perhaps a very good example of how

robotics might be the end. Imagine if there is a computer out there that is becoming smart, perhaps to such point that it would fake that it is smart?! What then?#

I tried to search for this episode but what i found is actually frightening, this robots are taking over the world as we speak, not in terminator style, but in peacefull manner for now.

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@Back to earth; So it is greed and jealousy story... some people are just naturally bad, but since i do believe in karma ( only thing i actually believe ), and have seen its effects, it will eventually come back to harm them someway.

But i think you and your firm are pretty safe now!

@ChaosRose; I haven't seen any shadow people yet, i do believe they exist but in form of a backwater gov. agencies or hired guns, in sense of hush hush.

Since you gave such a good description i'll keep my eyes opened for any such errrr... people? Or what would you call them?

@Professor T; What sort of meditation are we talking about? Abit offside question do you smoke/drink, and what sort of food you eat? Home made or delivery/fast food?

Thanks so far, good reads! How people are bad from greed and power to greys and this shadow people.

Believe it or not i once saw a very interesting video footage cought on cctv.... I think others, here, have seen it too when this shadow person walks into a hotel.

I can't find it on YT but i think camera showed clear picture except this figure in darkness that enters the hotel, pretty weird stuff... even a newspaper wrote about this.

Even though i don't know what their intentions are, but since no one so far has died from meeting them i think they have their own agendas.

Ive seen em. A couple times now. Both times were during a astral projection. If they aren't just a invention of the mind, I think they are some kinda parasite. Like they feed off your fear. Cause all Ive ever heard of them doing is terrifying people

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@Back to earth; So it is greed and jealousy story... some people are just naturally bad, but since i do believe in karma ( only thing i actually believe ), and have seen its effects, it will eventually come back to harm them someway.

But i think you and your firm are pretty safe now!

@ChaosRose; I haven't seen any shadow people yet, i do believe they exist but in form of a backwater gov. agencies or hired guns, in sense of hush hush.

Since you gave such a good description i'll keep my eyes opened for any such errrr... people? Or what would you call them?

@Professor T; What sort of meditation are we talking about? Abit offside question do you smoke/drink, and what sort of food you eat? Home made or delivery/fast food?

Thanks so far, good reads! How people are bad from greed and power to greys and this shadow people.

Believe it or not i once saw a very interesting video footage cought on cctv.... I think others, here, have seen it too when this shadow person walks into a hotel.

I can't find it on YT but i think camera showed clear picture except this figure in darkness that enters the hotel, pretty weird stuff... even a newspaper wrote about this.

Even though i don't know what their intentions are, but since no one so far has died from meeting them i think they have their own agendas.

In a general sense, I call them shadow beings. Otherwise, I call the humanoid types shadow people because their "bodies" look enough like people outside of the fact that they have no facial features.

Some people believe that they feed on negative emotions. I haven't had any experiences where I've felt drained by them, but I did have one that was incubus-like, yet easy enough to fend off. It wasn't a violent experience. The partner had a weird draining type experience with one as a teen. It was also seen by his sister on that same night...in fact she threw a shoe at it thinking it must have been her brother (it wasn't). Anyway, my partner said he felt like it was trying to become him, and like he was falling. Then for whatever reason, it released him. He never had anything like that happen with them again, but they have shown up directly after particularly vivid nightmares on a couple of occasions (only for him). There is lore about maras, and maybe some of these shadow beings are like that. On another possibly creepier note, there are such things as shadow spiders, and they can be very large.

Sleep tight. ;)

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I also wanted to add that we've never had one speak to us, directly. We have heard disembodied voices, but we can't be certain that the shadow people are responsible for them. The voices have said things like, we are here, hello, or called our names. Sometimes the voices will sound like loved ones who have passed. The partner had something unseen blow in his face, enough to move his long hair, and it said something that sounded like Hessicus. We don't know if it's a name. It sounded like a female voice, so we were trying to figure out whether it could be Jessica in another language. I found out that "he sees" is among the meanings for the name. So it could be just communicating that it knows we can sometimes see it. Also, hessicus seems to be part of some classifications for animals, and I think it may mean Hessian. I don't really know much about animal classification. Maybe it was communicating that it knew there was German in his background...which is true. Maybe it's a double entendre.

I guess if we want to communicate with them, it might behoove us to pick up some Latin.

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I haven't been as successful as you Professor T, but I do know first hand what you speak of. Ive almost PMed you a few times to see if you had any tips. I get stuck in these long road blocks where I cant even get into a vib state. Just never got around to it.

To be honest I'm still hit and miss with success and failure..

Finding a meditation that works best for one's self IMO is a personal journey.. I've found that meditating on the essence of Self was the best start, then understanding Ego.

Edit to add: For me it's always been about silencing thoughts, then when they don't shut up it's a mental stepping aside from them.. But there's plenty of other methods out there depending on your intention.. Having a chat with your higher self is always good initially hard to attain but I've found that once dialog was started it became easier and slowly over time very productive..

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@Professor T; What sort of meditation are we talking about? Abit offside question do you smoke/drink, and what sort of food you eat? Home made or delivery/fast food?

I still occasionally meditate on the essence of self, and quieten the mind and step aside from thoughts..

I do not drink or smoke or smoke..

My diet is mostly vegetables, fruits, and some white meat, Chicken, Fish... Oh, and distilled water.. But Diet includes in essence, everything else I consume and includes a lifestyle that's set around striving to better myself.. Distilled water.. Positive vibes.. Mostly nothing corrupting or negative..

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Ive seen em. A couple times now. Both times were during a astral projection. If they aren't just a invention of the mind, I think they are some kinda parasite. Like they feed off your fear. Cause all Ive ever heard of them doing is terrifying people

I'm actually not afraid of them at all. I'm just interested in them in a sort of detached and scientific way.

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Well anyway, i think we are all in conspiracy, global one, and in my opinion, a handfull of people know what is happening...

It is bigger than shadows or ufos or anything else... a climage change conspiracy.

Basically world climate is changing, a clear fact. Weather is going haywire, volcanoes are going off and ever more increasing seismic activity, spread and creation of all sort of diseases, well yea haywire.

So while some rich and powerfull people are doing all sort of digging in or buying already built structures, rest of us are just like sheeps, members of UM are already a step ahead of your average joe, since this website works are information source too.

Here is a channel from a random guy putting together extreme events ( he is abit religious, but in my opinion this isn't religion it is planetary ), i wonder what is behind the climate change, i mean what is actually making it go, how did we affect it?

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