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The Serer (West Africa) and Ancient Egyptians


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#76    Abramelin

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 03:03 PM

"You're correct that Rmnn is an ancient Egyptian word for Lebanon (one of them, anyway). However, by all appearances, this was not native to the ancient Egyptian language, but an "Egyptianized" import-word from the Levant. The original as spoken in the Levant was the Semitic root LBN. The oldest attestation of this word is on Mesopotamian tablets dating to around 2900 BCE."

An "Egyptianized" import-word from the Levant...

If the Serer "Lamanes" are the same as these RMNN, then it's interesting to note they used the Egyptian word for the LBN.

As a page of the Phoenicia,org site showed, the Serer and related tribes still use Phoenician signs:


http://phoenicia.org...Senegambia.html


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Posted 12 October 2012 - 05:25 PM

I take my hat off to you guys for this rather interesting thread. Very interesting indeed. Sorry I missed the party.


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Posted 12 October 2012 - 05:36 PM

View PostLaman, on 12 October 2012 - 05:25 PM, said:

I take my hat off to you guys for this rather interesting thread. Very interesting indeed. Sorry I missed the party.

Welcome to Unexplained Mysteries, Laman!

Well, with a username like 'Laman', I of course am going to ask you: are you a Laman? Or maybe a West African?

As you can see we got a bit stuck: we either need someone who has access to French papers and books and is willing to translate some of it,  or is West African and is willing to tell about his or her traditions that have a connection with this topic.

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 09:39 PM

View PostLaman, on 12 October 2012 - 05:25 PM, said:

I take my hat off to you guys for this rather interesting thread. Very interesting indeed. Sorry I missed the party.

I'll tell you something else.

From what I have learned searching the web, Africans should be proud of their history.

Their history in most Western eyes is 'primitive', and they were nothing but 'slaves'.

But despite the white gringo I am, I have learned a lot.

And I want black Africans to stand up, and tell us about their real past, not the Western version of their past.


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Posted 13 October 2012 - 02:54 AM

i wanna know more of this need more resources

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Posted 14 October 2012 - 01:35 PM

View PostAbramelin, on 12 October 2012 - 05:36 PM, said:

Welcome to Unexplained Mysteries, Laman!

Well, with a username like 'Laman', I of course am going to ask you: are you a Laman? Or maybe a West African?

As you can see we got a bit stuck: we either need someone who has access to French papers and books and is willing to translate some of it,  or is West African and is willing to tell about his or her traditions that have a connection with this topic.

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Ha ha ha! No! I'm not a Laman. The Lamanic classes (and era) as they used to be no longer exists.  Their descendants still exist though (e.g. the Joof family - especially the Joof family of Tukar, the Sarr family, etc). I do have access to French papers about the Serers. Yes!

Edited by Laman, 14 October 2012 - 01:37 PM.


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Posted 07 November 2012 - 07:29 AM

KEMIT - The Egyptian Origins of the Bassa of Liberia


The Bassa`r established themselves in modern-day Togo, the Bassa-ri (Land of the Bassa) in Senegal, Sierra-Leone, and the Bassa la Mpasu (Bassa of the River) in the Congo. The most interesting group is the Bassa of Liberia who were led to the area by....


They came from Khemit (ancient Egypt) and called themselves, again, ADBASSA. The ability of Bassa people to absorb other people has always assured their influence in the political order wherever they have settled. 2,716 years b.d.Um, a man called Shabako forced recognition of himself as pharaoh throughout Khemit. He reigned 14 years and his successors, Shebiko (who reigned 12 years) and Taharko (who reigned 26 years) were named by later historians as the Egyptian Dynasty XXV. After the collapse of this dynasty, it was MBEM SOYE (42nd ancestor) and KUKAME DI KUKAME (52nd ancestor) who directed their people to the Lake Chad and later to the Adamawa Heights where they built three successive empires: Rifum, Kororafa, and Adbassa.

PHARAOHS SHABAKO, SHEBIKO, AND TAHARKO OF KHEMIT Shabako, Shebiko and Taharko came from the south of Khemit, a land known as PUT, in the kingdom of KUSH, and referred to themselves as ADBASSA. At approximately 3,008 b.d. Um, a power was to determine the history of the Nile valley from the First Cataract to beyond Khartum for no less than a thousand years. This power, called the kingdom of Napata and Meroe, is also known as the kingdom of Kush.


The history of Kush is divided in two periods: 1) the Napatan Period lastin until 2178 b.d. Um, 2) the Meroitic Period existing until the fall of the kingdom toward the year 1588 b.d.Um.


This division is based only upon changes in the socioeconomic and political structure of the kingdom, for which we have as yet the following evidence: 1) the transfer of the royal cemetery from Napata to Meroe, 2) the replacement of Egyptian as the only written language by Meroitic, the language of the people who had achieved political dominance in the beginning, and 3) the gradual advance of indigenous cultural traditions and modes of perception which in the past had found practically no expression in official religion and art.

Napata and Meroe are not only periods in Kush history; they were two centers. Napata was built at the foot of Gebel Barkal, known to Egyptians as the "Holy Mountain". The cemetery of the Napatan kings (El Kurri and Nuri, ca. 2858-2658 b.d. Um) were located nearby.




And so on:
http://www.peuplesaw...nrub=&sites=280





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