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#211    Paranoid Android

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 08:34 PM

 Lord Vetinari, on 09 February 2013 - 04:36 PM, said:

I think that's the problem with what happened to Paul; everything that he said has been taken as being of equal importance, whether or not it has anything to do with Jesus.
The message of the Bible is and always will be about mankind's relationship with God.  Jesus came to preach salvation via his death and resurrection, and along the way tell a little about how to live for God.  Paul continues that theme - expanding on the idea of righteousness and how one may live pleasing lives for God.


 Lord Vetinari, on 09 February 2013 - 04:36 PM, said:

And whatever carefully selected quotations people might be able to mine as possibly having something to do with sexual morality (such as were quoted above), Jesus seemed, on the whole, to not consider it as the most important issue that he had to address.
Sexual immorality is just one issue among many.  When it comes to the concept of "sin", there is no distinction between one sin and another to God.  They all lead to the same place - death.  Paul is not focused more on sexual immorality than other types of sins, they are just one in a list of many other things he writes about.  Even Jesus addressed the ideas of sexual immorality, so it would be wrong to say that Jesus had more important things to talk about.

In some ways this type of debate is counter-productive to Christianity simply because discussing the sin of sexual immorality on its own gives the false impression that Christians are hung up on this type of sin as somehow "worse" than others.  And sure, some Christians do get hung up on the idea of sex.  But not all Christians do.  And by posting in a thread about sexual immorality I may give the impression that I do somehow think of it as a greater sin than others that I don't post about simply because there's no thread dedicated to it.  Correct?

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 08:42 PM

  Even Jesus addressed the ideas of sexual immorality, so it would be wrong to say that Jesus had more important things to talk about.

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 08:45 PM

 Paranoid Android, on 09 February 2013 - 08:34 PM, said:

The message of the Bible is and always will be about mankind's relationship with God. Jesus came to preach salvation via his death and resurrection, and along the way tell a little about how to live for God. Paul continues that theme - expanding on the idea of righteousness and how one may live pleasing lives for God.


Sexual immorality is just one issue among many. When it comes to the concept of "sin", there is no distinction between one sin and another to God. They all lead to the same place - death. Paul is not focused more on sexual immorality than other types of sins, they are just one in a list of many other things he writes about. Even Jesus addressed the ideas of sexual immorality, so it would be wrong to say that Jesus had more important things to talk about.

In some ways this type of debate is counter-productive to Christianity simply because discussing the sin of sexual immorality on its own gives the false impression that Christians are hung up on this type of sin as somehow "worse" than others. And sure, some Christians do get hung up on the idea of sex. But not all Christians do. And by posting in a thread about sexual immorality I may give the impression that I do somehow think of it as a greater sin than others that I don't post about simply because there's no thread dedicated to it. Correct?

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Well, I agree there. That's why I don't know why some people get so wrapped up in that one issue, since there are so many other kinds of immorality about which Jesus did have much to say that was pretty unequivocal.

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 09:03 PM

 Lord Vetinari, on 09 February 2013 - 08:45 PM, said:

Well, I agree there. That's why I don't know why some people get so wrapped up in that one issue, since there are so many other kinds of immorality about which Jesus did have much to say that was pretty unequivocal.

Because it is the easiest thing to get at and show your hate, more so if you are dumb as a post and use a bible to excuse your hate ...You sure as heck won't see haters protest and chant abuse at serial killers and mad rapists, it's easier to go after the harmless.. Kinna like a bully would pick on the weak kid at school ..

Jesus never directly spoke about homosexuality, or something a lot worse paedophilia..The only thing Jesus really spoke directly about was adultery / marriage  It could be that he accepted and understood gays, as the bible does portray Jesus as one who was kind and accepting of others including sinners..

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 02:57 AM

 Lord Vetinari, on 09 February 2013 - 08:45 PM, said:

Well, I agree there. That's why I don't know why some people get so wrapped up in that one issue, since there are so many other kinds of immorality about which Jesus did have much to say that was pretty unequivocal.
I can't speak for others, but for myself I suspect it may be a false impression based on the fact that people start threads like this.  If this thread was not started in the first place, I wouldn't have brought up sexual immorality at all.  And if it wasn't for people trying to convince me that I was wrong, I wouldn't have continued to respond.  I am not focused on this sin more than others, but due to the attention a thread like this gets compared to, say, the death penalty thread, the mistaken impression may be left that I somehow think of this as a greater issue simply because of time devoted to this thread.

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