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#76    third_eye

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Posted 09 June 2013 - 02:15 PM

View PostLucidElement, on 09 June 2013 - 06:18 AM, said:

There is still treasure in the Great Pyramid? Khufu?? Why is there such a problem getting to it? Especially with our equipment and it being 2013. I understand not wanting to damage anything or risk screwing anything up but why is this a problem, you figure they have the technology to get in there?

Also, the Library at Alexandria always fasciantes me. I feel like we would have learned soooo much stuff about our history if it was still around. But, what is the mystery exactly, to this day surrounding the Library?

Did Cleo pull a fast one on old Julius like some people believed .... but then Julius had no idea so I don't think Cleo would've bothered ... but then again Cleo always was the smarter and scheming one ... so who knows ?

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Posted 10 June 2013 - 03:17 AM

You tthink we will ever come to find more tombs or treasure burried in the valley of kings?? do you guys think there are way more tombs buried still? Also, those pyramids still hold secrets to them, such as treasures and what not?

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Posted 10 June 2013 - 04:13 AM

And the ever-present mystery:
Why can't women drivers understand the concept of a 4-way stop sign? She could have a PhD in astrophysics from Harvard -- pull up to a 4-way interersection: can't figure out who goes next and when she goes. <grumble>

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Posted 10 June 2013 - 06:46 AM

View PostGatofeo, on 10 June 2013 - 04:13 AM, said:

And the ever-present mystery:
Why can't women drivers understand the concept of a 4-way stop sign? She could have a PhD in astrophysics from Harvard -- pull up to a 4-way interersection: can't figure out who goes next and when she goes. <grumble>

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Posted 10 June 2013 - 11:53 AM

I thought the Alexandria library was destroyed either during the reign Cleopatra or later during some war?

My mystery is "picnic at hanging rock" Were the girls taken by aliens, did they go into another dimension, were they killed or did they simply walk off got lost and died?

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Posted 10 June 2013 - 12:53 PM

View Postjesspy, on 10 June 2013 - 11:53 AM, said:

I thought the Alexandria library was destroyed either during the reign Cleopatra or later during some war?

My mystery is "picnic at hanging rock" Were the girls taken by aliens, did they go into another dimension, were they killed or did they simply walk off got lost and died?
Isn't the picnic at hanging rock just a book and movie?    I don't recall that there was any truth to it.


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Posted 11 June 2013 - 04:38 AM

I dont remember if i read picnic at hanging rock was completley false, and just made after the imagination of the book, or if their was some historical truth behind that vanishing...

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Posted 11 June 2013 - 04:40 AM

Another interesting one that is crazy, kind of like the crouch murders, is Lizzie Borden. DId she kill her parents, they have that nursey rhyme made after her..

http://en.wikipedia....i/Lizzie_Borden

"Lizzie Borden took an axe"
"And Gave Her Mother 40 Whacks"
"When She Saw What She Had Done"
"She Had Given Her Father Forty One"

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Posted 11 June 2013 - 04:45 AM

View Postjesspy, on 10 June 2013 - 11:53 AM, said:

I thought the Alexandria library was destroyed either during the reign Cleopatra or later during some war?

My mystery is "picnic at hanging rock" Were the girls taken by aliens, did they go into another dimension, were they killed or did they simply walk off got lost and died?

The Library was destroyed several times over, by Arabs and Christians (who probably did the most damage) and Romans.

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Posted 11 June 2013 - 05:29 AM

what do you think was lost at Library? what sort of documents?

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Posted 11 June 2013 - 07:18 AM

View Postjaylemurph, on 11 June 2013 - 04:45 AM, said:

The Library was destroyed several times over, by Arabs and Christians (who probably did the most damage) and Romans.

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Wrong Jayle. Library was destroyed by Romans and since there was two libraries, not just one, in Alexandria its possible that leftovers of one library was destroyed by mad Christhian crowd.
By the time Arab came there was no library as we knew there was once.
Most damage was done by Romans. But thats not their attention.
Mentioning Arabs and destruction of library is sort of like Vikings have horns idea.

Edited by the L, 11 June 2013 - 07:43 AM.

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Posted 11 June 2013 - 07:47 AM

View PostLucidElement, on 11 June 2013 - 05:29 AM, said:

what do you think was lost at Library? what sort of documents?

Ctesibius works."father of pneumatics"  (none of his works survived)
Dionysius of Thrace Language works
Euclid geometry works.
Herophilus works, who defined that brain not heart is seat of intelligence.
Archimedes works
Astonomer Ptolomey works
Hypatia works(?)
Eratosthanus works who messured size of earth
Aristarchus of Samos book was in Alexandria who argued that earth orbits around sun and that stars are very far away.
Three volumes of history of the world written by Babylonian priest Berrosus were lost.
volume I had from creation of the world to hte great flood. And Bible have few pages from beging of time till flood. Berrosus wrote whole book.
Aristotele works. (This topic is topic of its own)
Aeschylus, Sophocles, Euripides tragedies.
Anaximander of Miletus  works. (Carl Sagan: For ages men had used sticks to club and spear eachother and Anaximander used stick to messure time) beside others things he do. He done first experiment in the history.(?)

To name a few.
I think that one document survive and it was a list of "all" books kept in library.

Edited by the L, 11 June 2013 - 08:09 AM.

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Posted 11 June 2013 - 08:15 AM

View Postjaylemurph, on 10 June 2013 - 06:46 AM, said:

...consider yourself lucky. Where I grew up, not even the menfolk knew what to do there.

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Well...consider yourself lucky because if you never been to Iraq and Egypt you dont know how Western driving culture is high.

Edited by the L, 11 June 2013 - 08:15 AM.

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Posted 11 June 2013 - 12:56 PM

View PostLucidElement, on 11 June 2013 - 04:40 AM, said:

Another interesting one that is crazy, kind of like the crouch murders, is Lizzie Borden. DId she kill her parents, they have that nursey rhyme made after her..

http://en.wikipedia....i/Lizzie_Borden

"Lizzie Borden took an axe"
"And Gave Her Mother 40 Whacks"
"When She Saw What She Had Done"
"She Had Given Her Father Forty One"

I've always thought, that Lizzie was sexually abused by her father, and that is one of the reasons why she did it....I mean think about it. Those murders took an extreme amount of rage. So if money was the motive, why axe them to death? Why not poison? Hacking someone to death with an axe, takes a lot of rage if you ask me, so there was something personal about that.


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Posted 11 June 2013 - 04:26 PM

My favorite mystery is of the princes in the tower





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