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[Chrlzs]

May I just add that the page Hazzard posted:
http://www.alcione.o...CONCLUSION.html
..is an absolutely wonderful example of how to go about a genuine analysis - my current favourite.  Yes, his English is a little stilted at times, but the effort he put in to cover all bases was exemplary.  I salute you, Captain Franz..!

To add a little controversy and show how it shouldn't be done.. I'm currently working on a rebuttal of some terribly flawed 'research' done by Richard Haines on a different case (- and once I've finished that I might move onto one from Maccabee..).  I don't like pretenders..

[DBunker]

Very true.... after seing that link there is NO DOUBT they were looking at the oil wells (fire). Only the most hard-core of believers (willful ignorance) can still put their heads in the sand going..... la-la-la I dont believe you!!!

[DONTEATUS]

So Old topic stuff ,can we get some real Aliens in here  ? maybe ?

[DBunker]

DONTEATUS, on 26 January 2013 - 12:02 AM, said:

So Old topic stuff ,can we get some real Aliens in here  ? maybe ?

You are up, D..... take it away.

[TheOtherSide1945]

DBunker, on 25 January 2013 - 10:26 PM, said:

Very true.... after seing that link there is NO DOUBT they were looking at the oil wells (fire). Only the most hard-core of believers (willful ignorance) can still put their heads in the sand going..... la-la-la I dont believe you!!!

Oil wells do not start on fire unless there is somehting horribly wrong going on(it is Mexico though). FLARE STACKS are what are burning at well sites. do some research before posting JESUS CHRIST.

Edited by TheOtherSide1945, 26 January 2013 - 12:42 AM.

[Artaxerxes]

I didn't even know Mexico had an Air Force.

Art

[Tesla II]

Dr. Mrdad events which can be explained are released to wider public,.. unexplainable events don't hit the public.
Those lights remind me on F-22 or what is that fighter that US have with twin engines?

[TheOtherSide1945]

Tesla II, on 26 January 2013 - 12:44 AM, said:

Dr. Mrdad events which can be explained are released to wider public,.. unexplainable events don't hit the public.
Those lights remind me on F-22 or what is that fighter that US have with twin engines?

there is the f-15, f-14, f-18 all dual burners

[DBunker]

TheOtherSide1945, on 26 January 2013 - 12:36 AM, said:

Oil wells do not start on fire unless there is somehting horribly wrong going on(it is Mexico though). FLARE STACKS are what are burning at well sites. do some research before posting JESUS CHRIST.

It could have been a methane blasting cow for all I care, the point is - It was fire not an alien space ship.

[TheOtherSide1945]

DBunker, on 26 January 2013 - 12:54 AM, said:

It could have been a methane blasting cow for all I care, the point is - It was fire not an alien space ship.

if you are gonna be a sceptic do it right is the point.

[Sakari]

Hazzard, on 24 January 2013 - 03:20 PM, said:

Mexican Air Force FLIR's video lights are not UFO's.

http://www.alcione.o...CONCLUSION.html

You are just one of the many people here planted by the Government to cover things up..........

[DBunker]

TheOtherSide1945, on 26 January 2013 - 01:07 AM, said:

if you are gonna be a sceptic do it right is the point.

.... and a good point it is.

[Tesla II]

TheOtherSide1945, on 26 January 2013 - 12:49 AM, said:

there is the f-15, f-14, f-18 all dual burners

There you have it could be any of those!

[Hazzard]

Sakari, on 26 January 2013 - 02:06 AM, said:

You are just one of the many people here planted by the Government to cover things up..........

I had no choice in the matter,... it was either this, or joining the Jedi academy on Ossus.

[Dr. Mirdad]

Sorry I couldn't reply sooner. I'll be honest, I think you guys are right on this one. I'm just baffled how trained air force pilots can make a mistake like that, but I guess everyone makes mistakes.

Now as far as the believer thing goes, I am not one of those in that sense. Like many of you here, I was much worst than a skeptic when it came to UFOs and aliens. i was taught by my parents that all these experiences people are having were all demons playing tricks with peoples minds. It wasn't a subject you could even talk about with me. I didnt want to hear it.... Until that damn one day...when it all changed.... life was easier then because I had no experience so it was easy for me to deny and say that this phenomenon isn't real. Easier it was for me to accept the explanations of others for what "really happened".

But what happens when you have the experience phenomenon yourself? Me? I didnt even have a chance to become a believer. I wasnt seeking to have experiences with ufos like the believers, I really didnt give a *** damn about it, but it happened. I never considered myself a believer nor will I ever will. So I really hate being called a believer or to be even put in that class.  For me a believer is someone has no experience with the phenomenon and still chooses to believe. They take other people evidence as there own and call them facts. They are willing to argue on evidence as if they were in the vicinity where it was produced or recorded. Me? I only investigate my sightings, my videos and my pictures. Only for my evidence will I go far enough to say they are UFOs. And still I keep a open mind to hear other peoples point of view on the phenomenon. I don't care to investigate other people sightings and videos unless it is similar to something I have seen before. I dont care for beliefs or believers, i care only for knowing and experiencing. That is what is real too me.... so when it comes to this subject.... I dont believe this UFO phenomenon is happening.... I know this phenomenon is happening, by my own experiences and by my own evidence.

Edited by Dr. Mrdad, 26 January 2013 - 02:19 PM.