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[QuiteContrary]

Night Walker, on 14 March 2013 - 09:40 PM, said:

Ghost walks are consumer-friendly ghost-themed historical tours. Legend-trips are more spontaneous and personal in nature - like sneaking in to explore the local haunted cemetary at midnight or kids secretly performing the Bloody Mary ritual with their friends in defiance of parental warnings. Have you never done so? The ilicit or forbidden nature of the legend-performance is a key ingredient. Admittedly, legend-tripping is associated moreso with youth and rites of passage but there is nothing wrong with being young-at-heart (which is largely what the Joy of Bigfoot is about) - give it a go...

Of course Bigfoot and the paranormal could be two completely different things but they are not. That "researchers" talk-up the fictitious biological aspects is an essential part of the legend of Bigfoot and also then the legend-tripping experience of Bigfoot. If Bigfoot could be real and the things that go bump in the night are real then combining the two gives the Bigfoot experience. Add the social element - "Oh my god! What was that!?!" - and the experience can become electrifying! (I reckon it is also possible to actually induce Bigfoot sightings in such emotionally-charged and perceptually-ambiguous situations.)

The Bigfoot experience is more akin with an adult-version of the subjective legend-tripping experience - the illicit/forbidden aspects for adults include broader cultural disproval for such things ("Are you crazy?", "Grow up!") and the real genuine fears of being out in the wilderness (vehicle breaking down, animal predators, poionous spiders and snakes getting lost etc). In my experience it is surprising how such concerns by themselves can produce feelings of dread whilst alone in the wilds miles from anywhere. Imagine what adding the "reality" of Bigfoot can do when it is dark and there appears to be something large moving about nearby...

I'm not sure I understand what you are saying in relation to my thoughts on the two not being the same.

but we agree, I think, here:
"Participants in expeditions are told to read this hype and more before their first expedition. In fact, they are told to read suggested material more than once.
Hmmmm? Is this concern for the participants? Or, does this help ensure an "encounter" when one is already all hyped up about it prior to the event?" me post# 27.

[Night Walker]

QuiteContrary, on 14 March 2013 - 10:27 PM, said:

I'm not sure I understand what you are saying in relation to my thoughts on the two not being the same.

but we agree, I think, here:
"Participants in expeditions are told to read this hype and more before their first expedition. In fact, they are told to read suggested material more than once.
Hmmmm? Is this concern for the participants? Or, does this help ensure an "encounter" when one is already all hyped up about it prior to the event?" me post# 27.

I contend that the two ARE the same - familiarising oneself with the relevant lore is a traditional preparation for the legend-tripping experience...

[Sakari]

DieChecker, on 14 March 2013 - 04:11 AM, said:

Sorry Ken!



Come on Sakari..... There are people who still believe in the Hollow Earth, and the Flat Earth, and Dragons, and Dinosaurs and men living together, and that Thor is a real god, and some that believe we've never been to the Moon. Believing in bigfoot, a shadowy ape that lives outside the cities were 99% of us live is really not so hard...

Just watch Jay Walking, or any of these Man-On-The-Street questioning shows. Almost everyone is apparently an uneducated idiot, the smart people either don't go out, or they are simply few and far between. There are hundreds of millions of internet users out there and only, what, a few hundreds that post here regularly... because most of those people online are watching movies, shopping, cruising Facebook or TMZ.com, or they are simply watching Porn. That is the bulk of todays computer users, simple folk, who are basically uninformed and don't really care that they are.

Bigfoot is going to go on FOREVER!!! Bwah, Ha, Ha......

You have a point there.....You forgot 9/11

[Sakari]

DieChecker, on 14 March 2013 - 04:30 AM, said:

I remember having a good time talking about whats-her-name. The lady in Hawaii who is friends with the Telepathic Multi-dimensional bigfoots. Jane somthing....??

That was a fun discussion...

Did you know that Sasquatch can:
Read

Write

Shape-shift

Project Their Voice

Create Infrasound that affects the environment

De-materialize at will, or cause you to have an experience of lost time so you think they de-materialized.

Travel 300 miles a day on foot.

Live in well-lighted underground facilities

Contact and live with Star People

Tell us about our past and our future.

Have lived here longer than the human race.



Actually, I wrote her a few emails, and she responded. She sent me a DVD on ORBS, and she sent it for free.....Have to give her credit for that.

[QuiteContrary]

Night Walker, on 14 March 2013 - 11:38 PM, said:

I contend that the two ARE the same - familiarising oneself with the relevant lore is a traditional preparation for the legend-tripping experience...

I'll agree to disagree then.
Expedition participants are  prepped with modern-day recent "facts" and "science" and "habituations" not so much if any lore, legend or mystery. They are marketing a real animal. They have less and less room for the realm of  the paranormal or something similar.

[Sakari]

DieChecker, on 14 March 2013 - 04:11 AM, said:

Sorry Ken!



Come on Sakari..... There are people who still believe in the Hollow Earth, and the Flat Earth, and Dragons, and Dinosaurs and men living together, and that Thor is a real god, and some that believe we've never been to the Moon. Believing in bigfoot, a shadowy ape that lives outside the cities were 99% of us live is really not so hard...

Just watch Jay Walking, or any of these Man-On-The-Street questioning shows. Almost everyone is apparently an uneducated idiot, the smart people either don't go out, or they are simply few and far between. There are hundreds of millions of internet users out there and only, what, a few hundreds that post here regularly... because most of those people online are watching movies, shopping, cruising Facebook or TMZ.com, or they are simply watching Porn. That is the bulk of todays computer users, simple folk, who are basically uninformed and don't really care that they are.

Bigfoot is going to go on FOREVER!!! Bwah, Ha, Ha......

Diechecker, never be sorry for quoting me, I quote you all the time......And I just did again

[Lilly]

keninsc, on 14 March 2013 - 03:01 AM, said:

Must you quote him so as to make my ignore function useless?

You can't tell others who they can and can not quote.

Honestly, all this is starting to become rather silly. Please just ignore one another....it's really that simple.

[Night Walker]

Tia, on 14 March 2013 - 03:34 AM, said:

As to the ignorant poster on the other page..yes migration time. When you and others who can back your research up have studied something for years day in day out, feel free to share then.

hatecraft, on 14 March 2013 - 01:13 PM, said:

Ok, then educate me. When they migrate, do they use secret underground tunnels or fly in spaceships? Surely thousands of 9' tall 800 lb animals would leave some evidence of such a migration. Maybe they just teleport.

HC - I take it that you are not anticipating any tangible evidence in support of Bigfoot migration...

Yet Tia's post does hint at two very vital and widespread aspects within the Joy of Bigfoot - the perks of expertise (even if it is pseudo-expertise) and the importance of social support (friends and family).

I should know since I'm the 6th best Yowie Researcher north of Brisbane and my friends and family don't attempt to disuade me from my hobby (which is about the most support I could hope to achieve)...