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#16    beowulf

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Posted 27 June 2004 - 11:27 PM

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To me, the bible is all facts.

I'm sure that to a Buddhist the Seven Books of Mahayana are all facts, but let's face it, the Bible meets all of the criteria of mythology!


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Posted 28 June 2004 - 12:00 AM

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but let's face it, the Bible meets all of the criteria of mythology!

Actually, the Bible is not a mythology but a religious book.
Christian, Jewish and Muslim mythologies are seperated from their holy books, but were created based on those books and on oral traditions.

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Posted 28 June 2004 - 12:17 AM

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The Bibles themselves are not holy, and we should all understand that. So, in my humble opinion, it makes little sense to have to swear on a bible for any reason.


I think it is just a symbolic gesture Reese.  When one swears on a Bible and says, So help me God, they are actually taking an oath before God and Man that what they say is true.  Swear to God! tongue.gif

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Posted 30 June 2004 - 09:42 PM

Stop me if I am wrong.
Who was Adams first wife?
Eve no it was Lilith who rebelled against god'
This exists in jewish lore predating the earliest bible storys
Why isnt Lilith in the bible?
Coz she does not fit.
Why does Jesus` life have disturbing paralles to the life of Mithras?
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Posted 01 July 2004 - 01:28 AM

just stick to facts.


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Posted 01 July 2004 - 01:31 AM

who is lilith? why isnt she/he exists nor mentioned on the bible? im not really an agnostic atheist but i havent have heard about lilith before... is this true or just a tricky hoax?


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Posted 01 July 2004 - 11:08 AM

The follow text is quoted from:
Hebrew Myths by Robert Graves and Raphael Patai (New York:  Doubleday, 1964), pp 65-69.

Chapter 10: Adam's Helpmeets

(a) Having decided to give Adam a helpmeet lest he should be alone of his kind, God put him into a deep sleep, removed one of his ribs, formed it into a woman, and closed up the wound, Adam awoke and said: 'This being shall be named "Woman", because she has been taken out o f man. A man and a woman shall be one flesh.' The title he gave her was Eve, 'the Mother of All Living''. 1

(cool.gif Some say that God created man and woman in His own image on the Sixth Day, giving them charge over the world; 2  but that Eve did not yet exist. Now, God had set Adam to name every beast, bird and other living thing. When they passed before him in pairs, male and female, Adam-being already like a twenty-year-old man-felt jealous of their loves, and though he tried coupling with each female in turn, found no satisfaction in the act. He therefore cried: 'Every creature but I has a proper matel', and prayed God would remedy this injustice. 3

© God then formed Lilith, the first woman, just as He had formed Adam, except that He used filth and sediment instead of pure dust. From Adam's union with this demoness, and with another like her named Naamah, Tubal Cain's sister, sprang Asmodeus and innumerable demons that still plague mankind. Many generations later, Lilith and Naamah came to Solomon's judgement seat, disguised as harlots of Jerusalem'. 4

(d) Adam and Lilith never found peace together; for when he wished to lie with her, she took offence at the recumbent posture he demanded. 'Why must I lie beneath you?' she asked. 'I also was made from dust, and am therefore your equal.' Because Adam tried to compel her obedience by force, Lilith, in a rage, uttered the magic name of God, rose into the air and left him.

Adam complained to God: 'I have been deserted by my helpmeet' God at once sent the angels Senoy, Sansenoy and Semangelof to fetch Lilith back. They found her beside the Red Sea, a region abounding in lascivious demons, to whom she bore lilim at the rate of more than one hundred a day. 'Return to Adam without delay,' the angels said, `or we will drown you!' Lilith asked: `How can I return to Adam and live like an honest housewife, after my stay beside the Red Sea?? 'It will be death to refuse!' they answered. `How can I die,' Lilith asked again, `when God has ordered me to take charge of all newborn children: boys up to the eighth day of life, that of circumcision; girls up to the twentieth day. None the less, if ever I see your three names or likenesses displayed in an amulet above a newborn child, I promise to spare it.' To this they agreed; but God punished Lilith by making one hundred of her demon children perish daily; 5 and if she could not destroy a human infant, because of the angelic amulet, she would spitefully turn against her own. 6

(e) Some say that Lilith ruled as queen in Zmargad, and again in Sheba; and was the demoness who destroyed job's sons. 7 Yet she escaped the curse of death which overtook Adam, since they had parted long before the Fall. Lilith and Naamah not only strangle infants but also seduce dreaming men, any one of whom, sleeping alone, may become their victim. 8

(f) Undismayed by His failure to give Adam a suitable helpmeet, God tried again, and let him watch while he built up a woman's anatomy: using bones, tissues, muscles, blood and glandular secretions, then covering the whole with skin and adding tufts of hair in places. The sight caused Adam such disgust that even when this woman, the First Eve, stood there in her full beauty, he felt an invincible repugnance. God knew that He had failed once more, and took the First Eve away. Where she went, nobody knows for certain. 9

(g) God tried a third time, and acted more circumspectly. Having taken a rib from Adam's side in his sleep, He formed it into a woman; then plaited her hair and adorned her, like a bride, with twenty-four pieces of jewellery, before waking him. Adam was entranced. 10

(h) Some say that God created Eve not from Adam's rib, but from a tail ending in a sting which had been part of his body. God cut this off, and the stump-now a useless coccyx-is still carried by Adam's descendants. 11

(i) Others say that God's original thought had been to create two human beings, male and female; but instead He designed a single one with a male face looking forward, and a female face looking back. Again He changed His mind, removed Adam's backward-looking face, and built a woman's body for it. 12

(j) Still others hold that Adam was originally created as an androgyne of male and female bodies joined back to back. Since this posture made locomotion difficult, and conversation awkward, God divided the androgyne and gave each half a new rear. These separate beings He placed in Eden, forbidding them to couple. 13



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Posted 01 July 2004 - 07:19 PM

Heres a fact
The books of the bible old and new have been used to justify war genocide even.
Billions of souls must have died through religion in europe alone.
Here is another bible fact
If all of us lived by the 10 comandments.
All the sh*t would stop


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Posted 01 July 2004 - 08:41 PM

Actually I believe the Bibles Ten Commandments do not condemn killing for war.
Or at least thats what I have heard from some Jews.
The words kill and murder are quite different.
Not so sure about this though.

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Posted 01 July 2004 - 08:43 PM

And about that long post..
Adam tried to couple with the female animals? LOL never heard that before..but for some reason..I find it quite hilarious.

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Posted 07 July 2004 - 11:39 PM

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Actually, the Bible is not a mythology but a religious book.


Religious books are, by definition, nothing more than mythology.  Mythology is religious stories that have no secular or scientific backing.  


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Posted 07 July 2004 - 11:42 PM

Greatest work of fiction ever written.


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Posted 08 July 2004 - 05:25 AM

Agreed.  Most religious text have been subject to intrepretation, and often intrepretation of intrepretation, and always intrepretation of different languages.

As for the Christian religion, they have played a major part in the telling of history for the past 2000 years.  Coupled by some "aggressive marketing", they went from cult status to mainstream.  I find it fascinating that so many Christiana go at great lengths to seemingly justify and promote their faith over others.  Don't get me wrong, religion can have an extremely beneficial effect on society; however, humanity has always shown its bad side.  I'm sure that many Christians often cringe in being reminded with constant proof that "in the name of God" has been used for some horrific genocides on humanity (i.e. Native Americans, Islam, Hinduism, and primal religions).  That is the main reason as to why Christians currently are the largest religious group in the world.

Is the Bible fact?  There isn't enough proof for me to say that.  And for that to happen, I would need to see a large Christian miracle (not, the gleam in a newborns eyes...sun shining type).  I'm talking big.  But I hold that to all religions.  Bring forth Hanuman, Rama and gang.  Bring Allah and Mohemmed.  And everyone else.  But until then, it's all suspect to me.


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Posted 11 July 2004 - 01:21 PM

very noice


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Posted 11 July 2004 - 02:19 PM

Hmm... Some intresting facts. Glad this thread hasn't broken down. When religion is involved it normal does.

Thanks for sharing...





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