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Posted 05 May 2012 - 04:00 PM



Very concise and measured presentation explaining the history of the mid east conflict.

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Posted 05 May 2012 - 04:29 PM

hmmm...

good luck

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Posted 05 May 2012 - 04:46 PM

View Postunit, on 05 May 2012 - 04:29 PM, said:

hmmm...

good luck

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Posted 05 May 2012 - 05:10 PM

more bashing islam ..
they should have posted pile of crap on the end of video
why bring religion into a political conflict which can only prove you wrong
weren't israel the ones who choosed to build the nation on the blood and dead bodies of palestinian
claiming it was " given to them by god "
weren't they offered a land somewhere else instead they " choosed " to destroy palestinian homes with famlilies in them
to build the fancy houses on the remanants ?

if there's a religion to blame here ... blame it on israelis and their land that was given to them by god
In polticis .. do you relize how stupid that sound from political pointview ? .. very stupid is the answer

now to point the crap in the video first thing first is the population  number
does he mean before or after the massacares israel did and the ethnic cleansing

i agree it's 12 min to understand how greedy and stupid israel is ... nice video

second point is not violate the right of non-jewish people in palestine .. that's exactly why there was ethnic cleansing right ? hehehehe
serioulsy you expect people to believe this crap ?

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Posted 05 May 2012 - 05:16 PM

In nature, when a species cannot adapt it goes extinct.

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Posted 05 May 2012 - 05:19 PM

http://en.wikipedia....ic_cleansing.3F

i hate to blow this little bubble .. but i have to

View PostRavenHawk, on 05 May 2012 - 05:16 PM, said:

In nature, when a species cannot adapt it goes extinct.

nice way to say that if they don't agree on being cleansed from their homes .. they should extinct
that's very human of you !

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Posted 05 May 2012 - 05:50 PM

View PostKnight Of Shadows, on 05 May 2012 - 05:19 PM, said:

http://en.wikipedia....ic_cleansing.3F

i hate to blow this little bubble .. but i have to

nice way to say that if they don't agree on being cleansed from their homes .. they should extinct
that's very human of you !
Yawn.  I saw nothing about the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians by Jordan.  Why not?

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Posted 05 May 2012 - 06:01 PM

yawn coz israel left no palestinain to other nation to ethnic cleansing
but hey .. they're just arab animals it's ok they'll just go extinct right ?

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Posted 05 May 2012 - 06:03 PM

View PostRavenHawk, on 05 May 2012 - 05:50 PM, said:

Yawn.  I saw nothing about the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians by Jordan.  Why not?

Because it doesn't fit his narrative.  Note how close the hate is to the surface and how quickly he goes into attack mode over a set of facts that cannot be reasonably disputed.  The video wasn't aimed at you KoS.  It was placed here for anyone with a little time to get a synopsis of facts that, yes, present the Israeli side primarily.  But all are true and THAT's what you have stuck in your throat.

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Posted 05 May 2012 - 06:11 PM

no it represent the israel goverment side of the story not the primal israeli side
what about the ethnic cleansing ? you didn't say anything about that ? doesn't fit your denial ?

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Posted 05 May 2012 - 06:16 PM

View Postand then, on 05 May 2012 - 06:03 PM, said:

Because it doesn't fit his narrative.  Note how close the hate is to the surface and how quickly he goes into attack mode over a set of facts that cannot be reasonably disputed.  The video wasn't aimed at you KoS.  It was placed here for anyone with a little time to get a synopsis of facts that, yes, present the Israeli side primarily.  But all are true and THAT's what you have stuck in your throat.

And anyone making a similar video, but showing the "set of facts that cannot be reasonably disputed" which favour the Arabs and Palestinians, would be labelled anti-semitic - right, and then?

:rolleyes:

Why even post half the picture, unless it's because you want to distort what everyone sees?

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Posted 05 May 2012 - 06:30 PM

View PostLeonardo, on 05 May 2012 - 06:16 PM, said:

And anyone making a similar video, but showing the "set of facts that cannot be reasonably disputed" which favour the Arabs and Palestinians, would be labelled anti-semitic - right, and then?

:rolleyes:

Why even post half the picture, unless it's because you want to distort what everyone sees?

I post the Israeli side of the argument because it is rarely given a hearing here.  Oh sure, the conflict is discussed/argued ad nauseum but primarily from the side of the poor Arab step children and how they are so shoddily treated by the Israelis.  I simply posted one view among many and people are free to accept or dismiss it as they see fit.  I just like to occasionally remind anyone here who still has an open mind on the subject that there are indeed TWO sides to the conflict.  Think what you will but I doubt you can find evidence to disprove a single fact stated in the video.

Edited to say:  For the record I don't attempt to name anti semites.  It's just a title.  I'm more concerned with the animals who butcher families in their homes to include slashing the throat of an infant.  These are they that you seem to feel are so mistreated.

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Posted 05 May 2012 - 06:50 PM

View PostKnight Of Shadows, on 05 May 2012 - 06:01 PM, said:

yawn coz israel left no palestinain to other nation to ethnic cleansing
but hey .. they're just arab animals it's ok they'll just go extinct right ?
Then I'd suggest that you read up Black September.

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Posted 05 May 2012 - 07:28 PM

i suggest before you suggest anything  when you talk about arabs raven you talk with bit of respect .. we're not animals to go extinct .

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Posted 05 May 2012 - 08:16 PM

View Postand then, on 05 May 2012 - 06:30 PM, said:

I post the Israeli side of the argument because it is rarely given a hearing here.  Oh sure, the conflict is discussed/argued ad nauseum but primarily from the side of the poor Arab step children and how they are so shoddily treated by the Israelis.  I simply posted one view among many and people are free to accept or dismiss it as they see fit.  I just like to occasionally remind anyone here who still has an open mind on the subject that there are indeed TWO sides to the conflict.  Think what you will but I doubt you can find evidence to disprove a single fact stated in the video.

Edited to say:  For the record I don't attempt to name anti semites.  It's just a title.  I'm more concerned with the animals who butcher families in their homes to include slashing the throat of an infant.  These are they that you seem to feel are so mistreated.

Where did I say anyone was mistreated?

Where did I condone violence and hatred?

Where did I raise the Arab's or Palestinian's concerns above the concerns of Israeli's?

Nice attempt at a personal smear job, however.

The point I was making is that there will be no reconciliation until both sides are willing to acknowledge their own failings, rather than simply point to the failings of the other. You posting supremely biased "information" does not bring that reconciliation any closer.

As for the "Israeli side not being given a fair hearing here", I think you will find that is a gross misstatement. From my experience on these forums it is simply that Israel is not given a free pass because of a past atrocity. However, the people and nation of Israel are not treated any more harshly in words than those who are in conflict against them. Any who promote violence and atrocity are equally lambasted here, while those promoting peace are equally lauded.

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