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Do You See "Red" the Same Way I See It?

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#1    Supersquatch

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 11:57 PM

I read about this before. Fundamentally, there's this question: Do you see "red", or any color for that matter, the same way I see it? I'm stumped about it.

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 12:33 AM

It's one of the eternal questions - do you see the world the same way I do?

I must not fear. Fear is the Mind-Killer. It is the little death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and to move through me. And when it is gone I will turn the inner eye to see it's path.
When the fear is gone, there will be nothing.
Only I will remain.

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 12:45 AM

For all we know "red" probably looks like "blue" to me, but we'd never know since we were taught the words for "that" color color.

Red probably looks "blue" but I was taught it was called "red" so we'd never know

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 01:07 AM

That's a good question, I think what most of us see is close to the same anyway.


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Posted 11 October 2012 - 01:31 AM

Well this is all tied to what word you associate with something. We have all been taught "red" the same I assume and can all identify it correctly (except those who are blind/colour blind). The way we see colours however can differ even in the slightest, all compared to the condition our eyes are in.

For example, you buy a new pair of shoes, you go out to walk in them and even in the slightest they diminish. Small particles eroded and scraped away as you walk. Everything is constantly diminishing even just doing nothing, just at a very slow and minute level. So from when you were born to now, your eyesight has diminished or even sharpened, depending on how you take care of them (they are a biological part of a living thing after all, in the case of the shoes, probably repairing them slightly each day). But most likely after a certain age they do go backwards.

A more quizzical question to ask is, do you see me the same way I do?

Obviously we can go and see each other from a third person perspective but you understand what I mean.


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Posted 11 October 2012 - 02:27 AM

Unless you or I are a mutant, then we see them the same.  Biological hardware(our eyes) are made of the same stuff and our brains(unless something has been wired different) perceive what our eyes see the same way.  Asking if people see or smell things differently is like asking if two webcams of the make and model on the same type of computer see the same.

I'm sure there are people with abnormalities though.  I know I'm missing taste alleles so I can't taste the bitterness is certain foods.


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Posted 11 October 2012 - 05:43 AM

We have ways to compare colors of similar shades, so unless you have some form of color blindness you'd see red the same as I do.

Edited by Rlyeh, 11 October 2012 - 05:43 AM.


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Posted 11 October 2012 - 06:46 AM

i think we all understand what 'red' is, or any other color, for that matter. the subtle differences in hue are where i think we may differ.
there are those of us who can see more variations of a color than others as well.
here's a fun test to see how well you can see color

edit to add:
i just did the test - here's my results

Based on your information, below is how your score compares to those of others with similar demographic information.
  • Your score: 26
  • Gender: Female
  • Age range: 50-59
  • Best score for your gender and age range: 0
  • Highest score for your gender and age range: 1520


Edited by JGirl, 11 October 2012 - 07:04 AM.


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Posted 11 October 2012 - 06:59 AM

Men and Women Really Do See Things Different

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Differences may be rooted in hunting, gathering.

Females are better at discriminating among colors, researchers say, while males excel at tracking fast-moving objects and discerning detail from a distanceevolutionary adaptations possibly linked to our hunter-gatherer past.

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 08:01 AM

Not too sure about humans, but I heard birds and bees (ooh er matron) see the colours of flowers different than we do. And since nature supposedly adapted these colours to attract birds and bees to help pollenate, it stands to reason we do not see flowers as they should be seen... maybe.


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Posted 11 October 2012 - 12:12 PM

View PostJGirl, on 11 October 2012 - 06:46 AM, said:

i think we all understand what 'red' is, or any other color, for that matter. the subtle differences in hue are where i think we may differ.
there are those of us who can see more variations of a color than others as well.
here's a fun test to see how well you can see color

edit to add:
i just did the test - here's my results

Based on your information, below is how your score compares to those of others with similar demographic information.
  • Your score: 26
  • Gender: Female
  • Age range: 50-59
  • Best score for your gender and age range: 0
  • Highest score for your gender and age range: 1520

Mine:
  • Your score: 4
  • Gender: Male
  • Age range: 50-59
  • Best score for your gender and age range: 0
  • Highest score for your gender and age range: 1520



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Posted 11 October 2012 - 03:45 PM

View PostTaun, on 11 October 2012 - 12:12 PM, said:


Mine:
  • Your score: 4
  • Gender: Male
  • Age range: 50-59
  • Best score for your gender and age range: 0
  • Highest score for your gender and age range: 1520

wow that's excellent! i thought i did well but now i have to blame my glasses for not being clear enough haha


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Posted 11 October 2012 - 03:51 PM

View PostJGirl, on 11 October 2012 - 03:45 PM, said:


wow that's excellent! i thought i did well but now i have to blame my glasses for not being clear enough haha

I'm old school trained in Electronics - color determination was very important...


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Posted 11 October 2012 - 05:57 PM

  • Your score: 4
  • Gender: Male
  • Age range: 20-29
The only flaw with that test is it's reliant on your monitor settings.  The only spectrum I had trouble with was #3, that purple/teal one.  Could barely see a difference at all.


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Posted 11 October 2012 - 06:06 PM

View PostWickian, on 11 October 2012 - 05:57 PM, said:

  • Your score: 4
  • Gender: Male
  • Age range: 20-29
The only flaw with that test is it's reliant on your monitor settings.  The only spectrum I had trouble with was #3, that purple/teal one.  Could barely see a difference at all.

that's exactly where my problem was - within the purple teal areas.






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