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[SoCrazes]

Caesar on Sep 6 2008, 08:27 PM, said:

I think the issues that matter most in this election are the economy and if you look at what was done in Alaska like taking on oil companies, 1200 dollar tax rebates to the tax payers due to the rise in oil and fighting corruption she did a really good job. I think if we could drill offshore oil platforms it would give this economy a jolt, more jobs, cheaper oil and a stable dollar, along with more nuclear power plants, we would be exporting oil. I don't think they look at a vp pick or the government to end sex discrimination or to fight for lesbian rights ect

Totally agree!

[Pinky Floyd]

Startraveler on Sep 6 2008, 03:00 PM, said:

And you base that on what? More of your embarrassingly flawed numerical analysis?

I have to agree with Caesar on this.  Obama has much less experience than many white (or latino) Democrats that would be better choices (and no..I'm not talking about Hilliary either) for the Democrat ticket.

He got where he is (partially at least) by being black...

/but to flip that coin: McCain got where he is (partially) by exploiting about his POW experience..
//Ron Paul!

Edited by Pinky Floyd, 06 September 2008 - 08:45 PM.

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Caesar on Sep 6 2008, 07:26 PM, said:

It seems to me that 90% of African Americans voting for a Obama is a bit strange. it seems to me that Liberals care more about putting people in groups, making them victims and targeting these groups with laws that help just those groups.

Jesse Jackson (et al) seem to have taken a back seat and this kind of "politicking" is less this time around.  Now, if we can have a clean voting at the polls, which would entail proper voting mechanisms with a paper trail and a proper count, then maybe the "Liberalisation", as you call it, of politics would end.

[Caesar]

SoCrazes on Sep 6 2008, 04:41 PM, said:

Jesse Jackson (et al) seem to have taken a back seat and this kind of "politicking" is less this time around.  Now, if we can have a clean voting at the polls, which would entail proper voting mechanisms with a paper trail and a proper count, then maybe the "Liberalisation", as you call it, of politics would end.

He is a joke all he cares about are blacks that agree with his left wing views. just look at his track record with the black panther movement. Obama seems to have taken another way, he seems more of a main streem liberal, but thats just my opinion

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Caesar on Sep 6 2008, 08:48 PM, said:

He is a joke all he cares about are blacks that agree with his left wing views. just look at his track record with the black panther movement. Obama seems to have taken another way, he seems more of a main streem liberal, but thats just my opinion

I've always been a right winger; however, I believe we need the pendulum to swing the other way...away from big corp interests and back to the regular joe/joellyn on the street.  These people are hurting and to have another 4 years as the past 8 will be devastating to them and this country. I'm not saying a swing clear to the left, but a good movement toward it would do this country good right now.

[stevewinn]

Has Sarah Palin, got more experience in government office than MCain, and Obama?

[MasterPo]

SoCrazes on Sep 6 2008, 05:24 PM, said:

I've always been a right winger; however, I believe we need the pendulum to swing the other way...away from big corp interests and back to the regular joe/joellyn on the street.

Who do you think provides the paycheck to the joe/joellyn on the street?

I've always enjoyed (in a morbid way) see how when I business reaches a certain size it becomes public enemy #1.

Doesn't surprise me. Anyone who has even started their own business knows from the first day you open your doors people presume you're rolling in money.

[SoCrazes]

MasterPo on Sep 6 2008, 09:29 PM, said:

Who do you think provides the paycheck to the joe/joellyn on the street?

I've always enjoyed (in a morbid way) see how when I business reaches a certain size it becomes public enemy #1.

Doesn't surprise me. Anyone who has even started their own business knows from the first day you open your doors people presume you're rolling in money.

I agree that business owners and corporations pay the Joes/Joellyns of the U.S.  The problem resides in that companies are going to China, India, etc., and not providing any real wealth to the laborers there.  People are working in slave-like conditions in many of these places while the U.S. Joe must give up benefits to compete.  In a nutshell, there isn't a level playing field and no protectionist measures in place to correct it.  

I don't agree with your last statement that people presume you are rolling in money from day one in a business. I've owned three different types of business and was a VP of a small multi-national corporation; from these experiences, I've learned that most people know that it is hard to make money in business.  Yes, there are a few uneducated prospects that think otherwise; but, by and large most know your not rolling in it until you've been at it for a while.

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stevewinn on Sep 6 2008, 04:28 PM, said:

Has Sarah Palin, got more experience in government office than MCain, and Obama?

Yes, and you can throw in Biden, for good measure.

That is, she has more "executive" experience, making decisions, proposing and meeting budgets, buck stops here, etc.