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#31    Verusan

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Posted 02 July 2009 - 09:47 AM

archangel_josh on Jun 29 2009, 04:30 AM, said:

I think we can all agree that no one really knows the truth. Only what agrees with our own perceptions. I believe we were created by humans from another planet who were mistaken for 'gods'. Makes sense to me. But to others it sounds stupid. The same with religion...makes sense to someone else, but silly to me.

All we can do is find something that we agree with and be polite and respectful of people who think differently. Then perhaps make a better world based on scientific laws and a mutual respect of each other, instead of religious tradition and war.


   I agree with the thing about gods being extraterrestrials. Don't know about us being created by them though. I just think that "Gods", as they are called, really sound like powerful creatures, more than something divine. I've always viewed the human God (I mean, what humans praise, take whichever religion you want) as just some powerful being, not necessarily benevolent either, although I do also believe in a what you call "One True God", except my view on It is a little different.
   But if you think about it, the belief that we were created by extraterrestrials is a modern take on old religions. Now that we have science, it makes sense for us to apply that to our religious nature and instead of saying "god did it", which nowadays sounds silly, we say "extraterrestrials did it" which sounds like something reasonable and potentially true. No disrespect here, just something I'd noticed.

archangel_josh on Jun 29 2009, 04:30 AM, said:

Hopefully! We've only got one humanity, so let's save it.


   Sometimes, my hope for humanity disappears, due to one event or another. So I'm not sure that humanity can do that... as somebody once pointed out, the only thing we seem to be good at, is killing each other.


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Posted 03 July 2009 - 02:13 AM

Verusan on Jul 2 2009, 08:47 PM, said:

I agree with the thing about gods being extraterrestrials. Don't know about us being created by them though. I just think that "Gods", as they are called, really sound like powerful creatures, more than something divine. I've always viewed the human God (I mean, what humans praise, take whichever religion you want) as just some powerful being, not necessarily benevolent either, although I do also believe in a what you call "One True God", except my view on It is a little different.
   But if you think about it, the belief that we were created by extraterrestrials is a modern take on old religions. Now that we have science, it makes sense for us to apply that to our religious nature and instead of saying "god did it", which nowadays sounds silly, we say "extraterrestrials did it" which sounds like something reasonable and potentially true. No disrespect here, just something I'd noticed.



   Sometimes, my hope for humanity disappears, due to one event or another. So I'm not sure that humanity can do that... as somebody once pointed out, the only thing we seem to be good at, is killing each other.



I see what you are saying. But the idea of ET's creating us has always been there....it's just that people didn't understand that these aliens were people just like themselves from another planet, so they thought of them as 'Gods'.

But now we are mature enough to understand, we can understand the real truth behind all of the old religious stories.

Humans are generally very good people. It only takes a few idiots to blow up the world. That's why we have to make sure that our leaders aren't aggressive and violent people.

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Posted 03 July 2009 - 07:20 PM

archangel_josh on Jul 3 2009, 04:13 AM, said:

Humans are generally very good people. It only takes a few idiots to blow up the world. That's why we have to make sure that our leaders aren't aggressive and violent people.


   I'm not entirely certain what my problem with humans is... I've met many wonderful people and I've met some who weren't so wonderful or understanding, but I've never really met any that were downright bad (with one or two exceptions). One possible problem with humans though, is that they're very protective. And I mean very. They protect their partners from potential "threats" (jealousy), they protect their homeland from potential threats, they protect their things from potential threats and so on and so forth... I have read many theories, religious and secular about wars and aggressive behavior and when it could be acceptable. One thing that always struck me was that the only time a war is acceptable is when it's a defensive war... someone has to attack before someone else can defend... but who's going to attack, if everyone only justifies defense? Do you see what I mean?

   I'm a little like that... but I've given up the idea of fighting for my country, because after seeing people from all over the world I can't raise my hand against them... a fellow countryman isn't better than a foreigner in my eyes. I've tried giving up jealousy and I feel like I'm succeeding in that endeavor too. But if others see me as weird because of that, they can see me as a threat and attack, in defense...

   Don't know where I'm going with this, but suffice to say that humans aren't such simple creatures and neither is their nature. I simply hope that one day, nothing will stand in the way of unity between nations. Not nationality nor religion... but that's a dream that's far from being fulfilled atm...


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Posted 07 August 2009 - 12:19 PM

View Postbehaviour???, on Jun 16 2009, 04:54 PM, said:

Summing up every creature inside the realm of nature has emotion but we being superior creatures express it
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    i'm not as certain as you that we human beings are superior to other life forms on the earth.   Whales make joyful announcements of the birth of a calf,and other communications, by means of sound emitted in self reinforcing  Longitudinal waves which travel across entire oceans without becoming louder or quieter! ...    ants, birds, bees, deer, .. almost any animal you can name has the ability to communicate in one way or another. Have you ever watched a mother cat wash her kittens?  i have never seen a purer expression of the 'emotion' of LOVE.   If Ego is the measure of superiority.. then  , yes,, human beings are the most superiorest of all. :o)

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Summing up every creature inside the realm of nature has emotion but we being superior creatures express it
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View PostGodsnmbr1, on Jun 16 2009, 08:29 AM, said:

Well it's by far the most likely situation.  From a secular viewpoint, there exists one true reality and then a practically infinite number of simulated (false)realities, yes?  It's simple statistics--do you think you're holding the winning ticket or one of the trillions of losing tickets?  It's my personal belief that we probably can't even imagine what the true reality is like.  Planets?  Galaxies?  Doubtful.  It's our base though, so imagining something different is practically impossible.  

Once, while under the influence, I came to the idea that it's the emotions we create that are actually real and we exist merely as tools to aid in their creation.  Not too sure where I was going with that one, but like I said--under the influence.

Edit:  nice first post btw.  We need more intelligent posters like yourself on UM.

Hello. Under the influence means without(most of) the restrictions your conscious mind lays upon your thinking processes. (Wy do you think drugs are banned??) Your conscious mind makes/lets you see only what it can accept as rational and what it is capable of believing in. When you/something overrides the conscious mind, your thought processes may be cleared up and enhanced, or may be obscured, depending on the degree of the given influence. I will give you a highly interesting reading on this one in case you are interested. As for what you experienced - we are mere tools to aid the creation of emotions - well, you ain't too far off from the truth. A nice piece of work to help you understand the nature of what's really going on is the second reading I would like to recommend. So the first one: Aldous Huxley: The Doors of Perception. (You might also find this one interesting from him: On Drugs and Creativity.) Second: Robert Monroe: Far Journeys. This one is mostly about astral experiences but it also tells an interesting story parts of which you might/might not find a possible part of reality. The stroy taken out of the context is this:

Someone, Somewhere (or both, in millions, or uncountable) requires,
likes, needs, values, collects, drinks, eats, or uses as a drug (sic) a substance
ident Loosh. (Electricity, oil, oxygen, gold, wheat, water, land, old coins,
uranium.) This is a rare substance in Somewhere, and those who possess
Loosh find it vital for whatever it is used for.
Faced with this question of Supply and Demand (a universal law of
Somewhere), Someone decided to produce it artificially, so to speak,
rather than search for it in its "natural" form. He decided to build a
Garden and grow Loosh.
In the natural state, Loosh was found to originate from a series of
vibrational actions in the carbon-oxygen cycle and the residue was Loosh
in varying degrees of purity. It occurred only during such action, and
secondarily during the reactive process. Prospectors from Somewhere
ranged far and wide in search of Loosh sources and new discoveries were
hailed with much enthusiasm and reward.
So it was that Someone and his Garden changed all this. Far off, in a
remote area, he set to work on his experiment. First, he created a proper
environment for the carbon-oxygen cycle, where it would flourish. He
created a Balance with much care, so that proper radiation and other
nourishment would be in continuous supply.
He then tried his First Crop, which actually did produce Loosh, but
only in small quantities and of comparatively low grade, not significant
enough to take back to the heart of Somewhere. The problem was twofold.
The life period was too short and the crop units themselves were too
minute. This brought about limits in quality and quantity, as the crop had
no time to generate Loosh in such close tolerances. Moreover, the Loosh
could be harvested only at the moment of termination of the life span, not
one moment before.
His Second Crop was no better, if as good. He changed the environment
to another part of the Garden, where the density was gaseous rather
than liquid and the higher-density chemicals formed a solid base and thus
were still available. He planted numberless units in many varieties in a
new form, with a great increase in size, some many thousands of times
larger and more complex than the simple unicellular First Crop. He re-reversed
the carbon-oxygen cycle. Yet all had a basic uniformity. Like the
First Crop, they would reseed at regular intervals and terminate their life
spans automatically. To avoid the uneven distribution of chemicals and
radiation which had been prevalent in the First Crop, he immobilized the
Second Crop. Each was designed to stay principally in its own section of
the Garden. To this end, each was given firm tendrils which burrowed
deep in the more dense chemical matter. Attached to this was a stem or
trunk which helped elevate the upper portion upward for its share of
needed radiation. The upper portion, broad, thin, and somewhat fragile,
was designed as a transducer of carbon-oxygen compounds to and from
the crop unit. As an added thought, brilliant color radiators accompanied
by small particle generators were mounted on each unit, usually near the
top and symmetrically centered.
He set up circulating patterns in the gaseous envelope around the crop,
principally to aid in the reseeding process. Later, he discovered that the
same turbulent effect served as a means of harvesting the Loosh. If the
turbulence were violent enough, the Crop would be blown down, the life
span terminated, and the Loosh would discharge. This was especially useful
when an immediate Loosh supply was desired at a particular point
rather than at Harvest Time.
Despite all of this, the Second Crop was most unsatisfactory. While it
was true that a much greater quantity was attained, the unrefined Loosh
produced was of such low grade that it was scarcely worth the effort. In
addition, the growth period was now too long and no increase in quality
resulted. Some vital element was missing.
Someone hovered over his Garden for a long period in study before he
attempted the Third Crop. It was indeed a challenge. True, he was partially
successful. He had grown Loosh. Yet the product of his efforts fell far
short of the wild, uncultivated variety.
It was inevitable that he perceived the answer. The Third Crop was
living proof of this Truth. The original carbon-oxygen cycle must be included.
Mobility must be restored. Both factors had shown great promise
in high-grade Loosh production. If size could be added to this, much
could be accomplished.
With this plan in the forefront, Someone removed various sample units
from the First Crop, which was still thriving in the liquid portion of the Garden. He modified them to exist and grow in the gaseous area. He
adapted them first to take nourishment from the Second Crop, which he
permitted to abound for this very purpose. Thus it was that the first of the
Mobiles, the Third Crop, came into being. The Mobiles took nourishment
from the Second Crop, thus ending its life span and producing lowgrade
Loosh. When each huge Mobile terminated its own life span, additional
Loosh was produced. The quantity was massive, but the frequency
pattern of the Loosh residue still left much to be desired.
It was by accident that Someone came upon the Prime Catalyst as
regards Loosh production. The monstrous and slow-moving Mobiles had a
life span far out of proportion to their nourishment input. The growth and
life-termination process was of such length that soon the Mobiles would
all but decimate the Second Crop. The entire Garden would be out of
balance, and there would be no Loosh production whatsoever. Both the
Second and Third Crop faced extinction.
As the Second Crop grew scarce, energy needs of the Mobiles became
acute. Often two Mobiles would seek to ingest the identical Second Crop
unit. This created Conflict, which resulted in physical struggle among two
or more of the ungainly Mobiles.
Someone observed these struggles, at first bemused with the problem,
then with great interest. As the struggles ensued, the Mobiles were emanating
Loosh! Not in fractional amounts, but in sizable, usable quantities
and of a much higher purity.
He quickly put the theory to the test. He removed another unit of First
Crop from the liquid Garden area, redesigned it for the gaseous environment—
but with one significant change. The new Mobile would be somewhat
smaller, but would require the ingestion of other Mobiles for nourishment.
This would solve the problem of overpopulation of Mobiles, and
at the same time would create good quantities of usable Loosh during each
conflict-struggle, plus a bonus if the new class of Mobile terminated the
life span of the other. Someone would be able to transmit to Somewhere
practical amounts of reasonably pure Loosh.
Thus it was that the Rule of the Prime Catalyst came into being.
Conflict among carbon-oxygen cycle units brings forth consistent emanations
of Loosh. It was as simple as that.
Satisfied that he had found the formula, Someone prepared the Fourth Crop. He knew now that the Third Crop Mobiles were too large and too
long in life span to be ultimately practical. If grown in large numbers, the
entire Garden would have to be expanded and enlarged. There was not
space enough to grow such massive single units and the proportionate
leafy Second Crops to support them. Also, he reasoned correctly that
more rapid and increased mobility would expand the Conflict factor, with
a resultant higher Loosh output.
In one single motion, Someone terminated the life spans of all the
lumbering Third Crop Mobiles. Going back to the First Crop in the
liquid area, he modified and expanded them into a multitude of shapes
and sizes, gave them complex multicellular structures of high mobility. He
designed into them a pattern of balance. There were those that ingested a
Second Crop type of carbon-cycle unit (basically immobile) as an energy
source. There were others, very highly mobile, who required for energy the
ingestion of other mobile Modified First Crop units.
The completed circuit operated quite satisfactorily. The stationary Second
Crop modification in the liquid environment flourished. Small, highly
active liquid-breathing Mobiles took nourishment, "ate" the Second Crop
modification. Larger and/or other active Mobiles consumed for energy
the smaller "plant eaters." When any Mobile grew too large and slow, it
became an easy target for the smaller Mobiles, who attacked in voracious
numbers. The chemical residue from these ingestive actions settled to the
bottom of the liquid medium and so provided new nourishment for the
Stationaries (Modified Second Crop), completing the circuit. The result
was a steady flow of Loosh—from the life-span termination of the Stationaries,
from the intense conflict among the Mobiles to avoid ingestion, and
finally from the sudden termination of the life spans of such Mobiles as
the inevitable product of such conflicts.
Turning to another portion of his Garden—the gaseous area with a
dense-compound base—Someone applied the same techniques with even
more advanced improvements. He added many varieties of Stationaries
(original Second Crop) to provide sufficient and diverse nourishment for
the new Mobiles he was to create. As in the other Garden area, he made
such Mobiles into a balance of two species, those who ingested and drew
energy from the Second Crop Stationaries, and those who required other
Mobiles for sustenance. He created them in literally thousands of original types, small, large—yet none so large as the Third Crop Mobiles—and
ingeniously gave each some appurtenance for conflict. These took the
form of mass, elusive speed, deceptive and/or protective coating and color
radiation, wave-action and particle perceptors and detectors, and unique
higher-density protuberances for gouging, grasping, and rending during
conflict. All of the latter served neatly to add to and prolong the conflict
periods, with the resultant increase in Loosh emanation.
As a side experiment, Someone designed and created one form of Mobile
that was weak and ineffective by the standards of the other Mobiles in
the Fourth Crop. Yet this experimental Mobile had two distinct advantages.
It had the ability to ingest and take energy from both the Stationaries
and other Mobiles. Second, Someone pulled forth a Piece of Himself
—no other source of such Substance being known or available—to act as
an intensive, ultimate trigger to mobility. Following the Rule of Attraction,
Someone knew that such infusion would create in this particular
Mobile species an unceasing mobility. Always, it would seek to satisfy the
attraction this tiny mote of Himself engendered as it sought reunion with
the infinite Whole. Thus the drive for satisfaction of energy requirements
through ingestion would not be the only motivating force. More important,
the needs and compulsions created by the Piece of Someone could
not be satiated throughout the Garden. Thus the need for mobility would
be ever-present and the conflict between this need and that of energy
replacement would be constant—possibly a continuous high-order Loosh
emanator if it survived.
The Fourth Crop exceeded all of Someone's expectations. It became
apparent that a consistent, useful flow of Loosh was being produced in the
Garden. The balance of "life" operated perfectly, with the Conflict Factor
producing immense amounts of Loosh and a steady supplement brought
into being by the constant life-span terminations from all types of Mobiles
and Stationaries. To handle the output, Someone set up Special Collectors
to aid in the harvest. He set up Channels to convey the raw Loosh from
his Garden to Somewhere. No longer did Somewhere depend principally
upon the "wild state" as the principal source of Loosh. The Garden of
Someone had ended that.
With the success of the Garden and the production of Loosh by cultivated
means, Others began to design and build their Gardens. This was in accordance with the Law of Supply and Demand (Vacuum is an unstable
condition), as the amounts of Loosh from Someone's Garden only partially
met the requirements of Somewhere. Collectors on behalf of the
Others actually entered the Garden of Someone to take advantage of
those small emanations of Loosh overlooked or ignored by the Collectors
of Someone.
Someone, his work completed, returned to Somewhere and occupied
himself with other matters. Loosh production stayed at a constant level
under the supervision of the Collectors. The only alterations were ordered
by Someone himself. Under instructions from Someone, the Collectors
periodically harvested segments of the Fourth Crop. This was done to
ensure adequate chemicals, radiation, and other nourishment for the
younger, oncoming units. A secondary purpose was to provide occasional
extra amounts of Loosh created by such harvesting.
To reap such harvest, the Collectors generated storms of turbulence and
turmoil in both the gaseous envelope and the more solid chemical formations
that were the base of the Garden itself. Such upheavals had the
effect of terminating life spans of multitudes of the Fourth Crop as they
were crushed under the rolling base formation or smothered under waves
from the agitated liquid area of the Garden. (By peculiarity of design,
Fourth Crop units could not maintain their carbon-oxygen cycle surrounded
by the liquid medium.)
The Garden pattern of "Life" might have gone on thus throughout
eternity had it not been for the perception and inquisitiveness of Someone.
On occasion, he would study samples of Loosh from his Garden.
There was no motive in doing so, other than the fact that Someone may
have held a remote continuing interest in his project.
On a particular analysis of a Loosh sample, Someone had casually examined
the emanations and was about to return it to the Reservoir—when
he became aware of a Difference. It was very slight, but there it was.
His interest centered immediately, he looked again. Woven delicately in
with the more common Loosh emanations was a slender fragment of
purified and distilled Loosh. This was an impossibility. Purified and distilled
Loosh resulted only after the "wild state" Loosh had been processed
many times. The Loosh from the Garden of Someone required the same
treatment before it could be used. Yet here it was—so finely graded in its refined radiations that it could or
would not return into compound with the raw substance. Someone reaffirmed
his tests, and the result still was positive. There was a factor in his
Garden of which he was unaware.
Quickly, Someone left Somewhere and returned to his Garden. Outwardly,
all seemed the same. The solid-base gaseous areas of the Garden
were an endless carpet of green reflection from the thriving Second Crop.
The Modified First Crop in the liquid area was in perfect accord with the
Action-Reaction Law (a Division of Cause and Effect). Someone perceived
without delay that the Difference—the source of distilled Loosh—
lay neither with the First nor with the Second Crop.
He found his first momentary touch of distilled Loosh emanation in one
of the units of the Fourth Crop (which by then had filtered throughout
the plantings of the Second Crop). The flash came during the unusual
action of this unit as it entered into a life-terminating struggle with another
Fourth Crop unit. This alone would not create distilled Loosh,
Someone knew, and he probed deeper for the source.
It was at that moment he discovered the Difference. The Fourth Crop
unit was not struggling in Conflict over an ingestible remnant of a weaker
Fourth Crop unit or a tasty frond from a nearby Second Crop stem—or to
avoid termination of life and ingestion by the other conflicting Fourth
Crop unit.
It was in Conflict to protect and save from life termination three of its
own newly generated species huddled under a large Second Crop unit
waiting for the outcome. There was no doubt about it. This was the action
that produced the flashes of distilled Loosh.
With this clue, Someone examined the actions of other Fourth Crop
units in the Garden. He found similar flashes when other Fourth Crop
units took the same action in defense of their "young." Still, there was an
inconsistency. The sum of all such flashes of distilled Loosh emanation
from all such actions by the current Fourth Crop units would not amount
to half of the total he had found in the sample from the Reservoir. It was
obvious that another factor was present.
Systematically, he hovered over the Garden, extending his perception
to all areas. Almost immediately, he found the source. High-order distilled Loosh radiation was originating from one particular section of the Garden.
Quickly, he hurried to the spot.
There it was—an experimental Modified Fourth Crop unit, one of
those that contained a Piece of Himself in its functional pattern. It was
standing alone under the leafy upper portion of a large Second Crop unit.
It was not "hungry." It was not in Conflict with another Fourth Crop
unit. It was not acting in defense of its "young." Then why did it emanate
distilled Loosh in such great quantity?
Someone moved closer. His perception entered into the Modified
Fourth Crop unit and then he knew. The unit was lonely! It was this
effect that produced distilled Loosh.
As Someone drew back, he noted another unusual inconsistency. The
Modified Fourth Crop unit suddenly had become aware of His Presence.
It had collapsed and was jerking in strange convulsions on the solid-base
formation. Clear liquid was being expelled from the two radiation-perceiving
orifices. With this, the distilled Loosh emitted became even more
pronounced.
It was from this that Someone propounded his now famous DLP Formula,
which is in effect in the Garden at this time.
The balance of the story is well known. Someone included the fundamental
in his formula: ". . . The creation of pure, distilled Loosh is
brought forth in Type 4M units by the action of unfulfillment, but only if
such pattern is enacted at a vibratory level above the sensory bounds of
the environment. The greater the intensity of said pattern, the greater the
output of Loosh distillate. . . ."
To put the formula into effect, Someone designed subtle changes in his
Garden, all of them familiar to every historian. The splitting of all Crop
units into Halves (to engender loneliness as they sought to reunite) and
the encouragement of dominance of the Type 4M unit are but two of the
most noteworthy innovations.
As it appears now, the Garden is a fascinating spectacle of efficiency.
The Collectors have long since become Masters at the Art of the DLP
Formula. Type 4M units dominate and have spread through the entire
Garden, with the exception of the deeper portions of the liquid medium.
These are the principal producers of Loosh distillate.
From experience, the Collectors have evolved an entire technology with complementary tools for the harvesting of Loosh from the Type 4M units.
The most common have been named love, friendship, family, greed, hate,
pain, guilt, disease, pride, ambition, ownership, possession, sacrifice—and
on a larger scale, nations, provincialism, wars, famine, religion, machines,
freedom, industry, trade, to list a few. Loosh production is higher than
ever before . . .


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Posted 09 August 2009 - 05:27 PM

View PostRolci, on Aug 9 2009, 06:12 PM, said:

Hello. Under the influence means without(most of) the restrictions your conscious mind lays upon your thinking processes. (Wy do you think drugs are banned??) Your conscious mind makes/lets you see only what it can accept as rational and what it is capable of believing in. When you/something overrides the conscious mind, your thought processes may be cleared up and enhanced, or may be obscured, depending on the degree of the given influence. I will give you a highly interesting reading on this one in case you are interested. As for what you experienced - we are mere tools to aid the creation of emotions - well, you ain't too far off from the truth. A nice piece of work to help you understand the nature of what's really going on is the second reading I would like to recommend. So the first one: Aldous Huxley: The Doors of Perception. (You might also find this one interesting from him: On Drugs and Creativity.) Second: Robert Monroe: Far Journeys. This one is mostly about astral experiences but it also tells an interesting story parts of which you might/might not find a possible part of reality.
It is nothing to do with astral experiences though, it is to do with neurotoxicity.

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Posted 09 August 2009 - 06:46 PM

View PostMattshark, on Aug 9 2009, 05:27 PM, said:

It is nothing to do with astral experiences though, it is to do with neurotoxicity.

And I'm sure you have SO much experience to back up that statement.

Remember, we are all just acting out a grand old game here, where we agree to forget who we really are, that in the remembering, that we may find each other again, and know that we are One. That All of Life, is One.

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Posted 09 August 2009 - 07:01 PM

View PostGodsnmbr1, on Aug 9 2009, 07:46 PM, said:

And I'm sure you have SO much experience to back up that statement.
Yes, because experience tells you about the physiological effects of something. I'm sure if I took cyanide, it'd would give much better perspective on what it is doing to my neurons wouldn't it  :rolleyes:

Weak argument.

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Posted 13 August 2009 - 06:17 AM

i think...life is all just a dream , but whos dream ? hahahahhahah :lol:





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