Plane Crash in Clarence NY

[Bez]

http://www.wgrz.com/news/local/story.aspx?...;provider=gnews

This is about 10 mins from my house. I wasn't allowed to help with anything at the scene so I came home. =(

I hear the family in the house is out ok but nothing on the passengers yet.

[chemical-licker]

wow glad to hear all ok, but sadly the passengers

[raphnix]

You sure too lucky it didn't go off to your own house.

You should be thankful anf repay it through helping the victims.

[HollyDolly]

According to KSAT12, here in San Antonio, all the people on the plane were killed, and one person on the ground, though a woman and child managed to get out of the house the plane hit safely.

[Bez]

I havent heard anything from waking up to (my re-routed) commute to work and now that my hectic work is done I'm gonna research it. Last I heard everyone in the house was ok but the FBI said the fire is still burning and they couldn't locate the recorder box.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29173163/

Very sad. There was no smoke around that area this morning, although I wasn't exactly driving next to the site. But the sky looked just cloudy, like a normal winter day. No black smoke.

The entire road was blocked off (making me late for work =/ )

This is pretty sad. Clarence has seen it's share of reality in the past 10 years. They had a factory worker shoot his friend in the parking lot of the factory...there was some other stuff I can't remember right now. But it's truely sad.

Edited February 13, 2009 by Bez

[acidhead]

One of the passengers aboard the plane that crashed into a house 10 miles from Buffalo, New York, airport late on Thursday was a 9/11 widow who had questioned the official account of the attacks, sued the government and consistently lobbied for an Investigative Commission.

Beverly Eckert was flying to the city for a celebration of what would have been her husband Sean Rooney’s 58th birthday, reports the Press Association. Mr Rooney died on the 98th floor of the World Trade Center’s south tower.

She was among the 44 passengers and four crew on board the Continental Connection flight operated by Colgan Air when it crashed in the Buffalo suburb of Clarence Center.

After 9/11, Ms Eckert refused to accept a cash settlement as compensation and instead sued the government.

“I am suing because unlike other investigative avenues… my lawsuit requires all testimony be given under oath and fully uses powers to compel evidence.” Eckert wrote in December 2003 in a statement entitled My Silence Cannot Be Bought. http://www.margieadam.com/action/beckert.htm

“The victims’ fund was not created in a spirit of compassion.… Lawmakers capped the liability of the airlines at the behest of lobbyists who descended on Washington while the September 11 fires still smoldered.” she wrote.

Other September 11 relatives who accepted settlements forfeited their right to sue the airlines, airports, security companies, or other US organizations that could have been faulted for negligence and inadequate security measures. This ensured that very little detail of the attacks emerged outside of the government appointed 9/11 Commission.

Last week, Ms Eckert was at the White House to talk with President Barack Obama about how the new administration could deal with terror suspects.

According to reports, the Colgan Air flight was on final approach to Buffalo airport, 5 miles from the runway, when the control tower lost all contact. Weather was reported as light snow and fog and a 17 MPH wind. There was no radio message indicating a problem, so whatever happened happened in an instant. Only one house on the ground was destroyed, so the aircraft was on a nearly vertical path when it hit.

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[Bez]

Like I told you before, there is no conspiracy. The weather was worse than that. Please leave this in the conspiracy section.

[acidhead]

Published on Friday, December 19, 2003 by the USA Today

My Silence Cannot Be Bought

by Beverly Eckert

I've chosen to go to court rather than accept a payoff from the 9/11 victims compensation fund. Instead, I want to know what went so wrong with our intelligence and security systems that a band of religious fanatics was able to turn four U.S passenger jets into an enemy force, attack our cities and kill 3,000 civilians with terrifying ease. I want to know why two 110-story skyscrapers collapsed in less than two hours and why escape and rescue options were so limited.

I am suing because unlike other investigative avenues, including congressional hearings and the 9/11 commission, my lawsuit requires all testimony be given under oath and fully uses powers to compel evidence.

The victims fund was not created in a spirit of compassion. Rather, it was a tacit acknowledgement by Congress that it tampered with our civil justice system in an unprecedented way. Lawmakers capped the liability of the airlines at the behest of lobbyists who descended on Washington while the Sept. 11 fires still smoldered.

And this liability cap protects not just the airlines, but also World Trade Center builders, safety engineers and other defendants.

The caps on liability have consequences for those who want to sue to shed light on the mistakes of 9/11. It means the playing field is tilted steeply in favor of those who need to be held accountable. With the financial consequences other than insurance proceeds removed, there is no incentive for those whose negligence contributed to the death toll to acknowledge their failings or implement reforms. They can afford to deny culpability and play a waiting game.

By suing, I've forfeited the "$1.8 million average award" for a death claim I could have collected under the fund. Nor do I have any illusions about winning money in my suit. What I do know is I owe it to my husband, whose death I believe could have been avoided, to see that all of those responsible are held accountable. If we don't get answers to what went wrong, there will be a next time. And instead of 3,000 dead, it will be 10,000. What will Congress do then?

So I say to Congress, big business and everyone who conspired to divert attention from government and private-sector failures: My husband's life was priceless, and I will not let his death be meaningless. My silence cannot be bought.

Beverly Eckert, whose husband died at the World Trade Center, is the founder of Voices of September 11th, a victims advocacy group.

[Plainbob13]

Well. At least he didn't blame Israel for it.

Edited February 14, 2009 by Plainbob13

[zitro1987]

Please man, 40+ people died in a plane crash, very sad news, and you choose this thread for your conspiracies, 9/11s and all that stuff!

Published on Friday, December 19, 2003 by the USA Today

My Silence Cannot Be Bought

by Beverly Eckert

I've chosen to go to court rather than accept a payoff from the 9/11 victims compensation fund. Instead, I want to know what went so wrong with our intelligence and security systems that a band of religious fanatics was able to turn four U.S passenger jets into an enemy force, attack our cities and kill 3,000 civilians with terrifying ease. I want to know why two 110-story skyscrapers collapsed in less than two hours and why escape and rescue options were so limited.

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[MrRandomGuy]

Yeah, this is a sad event.

@ Acid.

Dude, you have zero evidence to back up your claim of a conspiracy. Any real evidence would not have surfaced by now. Kindly shut up and don't come back until you find some compelling evidence that it's a conspiracy.

[aquatus1]

Back on topic.