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#1    DC09

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Posted 26 June 2004 - 01:03 AM

WASHINGTON, June 24 Contacts between Iraqi intelligence agents and Osama bin Laden when he was in Sudan in the mid-1990's were part of a broad effort by Baghdad to work with organizations opposing the Saudi ruling family, according to a newly disclosed document obtained by the Americans in Iraq.

American officials described the document as an internal report by the Iraqi intelligence service detailing efforts to seek cooperation with several Saudi opposition groups, including Mr. bin Laden's organization, before Al Qaeda had become a full-fledged terrorist organization. He was based in Sudan from 1992 to 1996, when that country forced him to leave and he took refuge in Afghanistan.

The document states that Iraq agreed to rebroadcast anti-Saudi propaganda, and that a request from Mr. bin Laden to begin joint operations against foreign forces in Saudi Arabia went unanswered. There is no further indication of collaboration.

Last week, the independent commission investigating the Sept. 11 attacks addressed the known contacts between Iraq and Al Qaeda, which have been cited by the White House as evidence of a close relationship between the two.

The commission concluded that the contacts had not demonstrated "a collaborative relationship" between Iraq and Al Qaeda. The Bush administration responded that there was considerable evidence of ties.

The new document, which appears to have circulated only since April, was provided to The New York Times several weeks ago, before the commission's report was released. Since obtaining the document, The Times has interviewed several military, intelligence and United States government officials in Washington and Baghdad to determine that the government considered it authentic.

The Americans confirmed that they had obtained the document from the Iraqi National Congress, as part of a trove that the group gathered after the fall of Saddam Hussein's government last year. The Defense Intelligence Agency paid the Iraqi National Congress for documents and other information until recently, when the group and its leader, Ahmad Chalabi, fell out of favor in Washington.

Some of the intelligence provided by the group is now wholly discredited, although officials have called some of the documents it helped to obtain useful.

A translation of the new Iraqi document was reviewed by a Pentagon working group in the spring, officials said. It included senior analysts from the military's Joint Staff, the Defense Intelligence Agency and a joint intelligence task force that specialized in counterterrorism issues, they said.

The task force concluded that the document "appeared authentic," and that it "corroborates and expands on previous reporting" about contacts between Iraqi intelligence and Mr. bin Laden in Sudan, according to the task force's analysis.

It is not known whether some on the task force held dissenting opinions about the document's veracity.

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Posted 26 June 2004 - 02:33 AM

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The task force concluded that the document "appeared authentic," and that it "corroborates and expands on previous reporting" about contacts between Iraqi intelligence and Mr. bin Laden in Sudan, according to the task force's analysis.


This whole Iraq controversy reminds me of some of the threads about God.
You can't disprove God's existence  and you can't prove it either.

I didn't need George Bush or anyone else to tell me Saddam was in deep with terrorists.  He is a terrorist.  That's what terrorists do ...they spread terror and sieze power.  Terrorists hang out together...birds of a feather and all.  I have always thought and still do that Saddam was a collaborator, on some level, with Al Queda to bring about the results of 9/11.  I don't need anybody to prove it to me.  It is just what I believe.  So there...put that in your pipes and smoke it! tongue.gif  

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Posted 26 June 2004 - 01:51 PM

Absolutely joc. Always thought this from the get go. Everyone else has to catch up.

"The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation"

Henry David Thoreau...

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Posted 26 June 2004 - 01:53 PM

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Absolutely joc. Always thought this from the get go. Everyone else has to catch up.


Together we could rule the world! devil.gif  wub.gif  

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Posted 26 June 2004 - 03:20 PM

Abso...wootly! w00t.gif  wub.gif  

"The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation"

Henry David Thoreau...

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Posted 28 June 2004 - 04:08 PM

Dear Lord!!!  abduct.gif  

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Posted 03 July 2004 - 06:40 PM

QUOTE (joc @ Jun 26 2004, 03:33 AM)
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The task force concluded that the document "appeared authentic," and that it "corroborates and expands on previous reporting" about contacts between Iraqi intelligence and Mr. bin Laden in Sudan, according to the task force's analysis.


This whole Iraq controversy reminds me of some of the threads about God.
You can't disprove God's existence  and you can't prove it either.

I didn't need George Bush or anyone else to tell me Saddam was in deep with terrorists.  He is a terrorist.  That's what terrorists do ...they spread terror and sieze power.  Terrorists hang out together...birds of a feather and all.  I have always thought and still do that Saddam was a collaborator, on some level, with Al Queda to bring about the results of 9/11.  I don't need anybody to prove it to me.  It is just what I believe.  So there...put that in your pipes and smoke it! tongue.gif

Saddam I agree was ruthless ,but he had no choice .Look at the map of m.east
and you would understand .In Iraq there are so many different minorities each of them fighting for independence,he did what I would do- fight those backstabbers
On the overall he was good ruler for his people,Iraq under Sqaddam had the best social policies in the m.east.
Free health care for all
Women had full rights
Freedom of religions
Electricity for all
Free education
ETC,ETC,ETC.
If you want to blame somebody, than blame British for creating Iraq without thinking about shiites ,sunni,kurds,(or maybe British knew what they are doing?)

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Posted 04 July 2004 - 08:26 AM

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On the overall he was good ruler for his people


Hitler was an awesome leader  for the Germans, whats your point?


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Posted 04 July 2004 - 09:35 AM

it would be easier if everyone just learnt to get along disgust.gif  

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