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[lightly]

thanks sky eagle,    so,  do you know if ANY sort of Shrine has been erected in loving memory?    It seems he was more important to the  .. "U.S." ..  than anyone else?

[chopmo]

Still Waters, on 06 March 2012 - 03:52 PM, said:

He served his purpose kill the character off without anyone seeing it.

Babe Ruth, on 06 March 2012 - 06:55 PM, said:

Has Obama NOT allowed the military to do anything at all?

As for OBL, if they had ACTUALLY captured him, they would have brought him back to the US, paraded him down Madison Avenue with Rudy Giuliani performing some masochistic act upon him.  

What's making you think he isn't already nicely set up in the burbs living a "normal" life. I still find it hard to believe that the US had the middle east on lockdown pretty much thermographing anything that looked like anything constantly trying to "find" him. But some good for nothing pissant made his way accross the desert to deliver the latest video... everytime they made one, but no one ever could trace this bugger going back and forth. o_O there's alot of whooey out there but that is not so easy to swallow via spoon. Too many connections, too many errors, too many variables changing persistantly. Usually when something is so sparatic in pattern it's usually because someone is trying hard to hide their tracks. Pretty sad when Rolls Royce engineers can't recognise their own engines as one of their own apparently.

But it's all good that part of the pentagon leaked anyway.

[Babe Ruth]

pallidin, on 09 December 2012 - 09:01 PM, said:

Why do some argue about such ridiculiness.
Even his own people said he was dead.

Buried in the sea, buried in the desert sand, buried in a cave, who cares!!!!!!!!

He's dead!

Yes, BEEN dead for many years.

[skyeagle409]

Babe Ruth, on 10 December 2012 - 03:45 PM, said:

Yes, BEEN dead for many years.

You meant to say, since May 2, 2012.   Because:

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Bin Laden Releases New Tape

October 01, 2010 1:13 PM

In a new tape released today Osama Bin Laden criticized the Pakistani government for its handling on massive floods in that country, and, oddly, weighed in on climate change.

http://articles.nyda...-expert-muslims

http://www.npr.org/b...-flood-response

Even al-Qaeda has admitted that American special forces killed Osama bin Laden.

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Al Qaeda admits bin Laden's death online

CAIRO - Al Qaeda on Friday confirmed the killing of Osama bin Laden and warned of retaliation, saying Americans' "happiness will turn to sadness."

The confirmation came in an Internet statement posted on militant websites, signed by "the general leadership" of al Qaeda. The announcement opens the way for the group to name a successor to bin Laden. His deputy Ayman al-Zawahri is now the most prominent figure in the group and is a very likely contender to take his place.

The statement, dated May 3, was the first by the terror network since bin Laden was killed Monday by U.S. commandos in a raid on his hideout in Abbottabad, Pakistan. The statement's authenticity could not be independently confirmed, but it was posted on websites where the group traditionally puts out its messages.

http://www.cbsnews.c...2-20060382.html


Al-Qaeda admits Osama dead, vows revenge


Al-Qaeda confirmed the death of Osama bin Laden Friday in an Internet message that vowed revenge on the US and its allies, including Pakistan, according to a statement issued by the Islamist militant group.

Five days after President Barack Obama announced bin Laden’s death in a US raid in Pakistan, al-Qaeda confirmed the death of its leader as a historic moment, and vowed not to deviate from the path of armed struggle.

http://www.indianexp...-revenge/787057

Consider that a leadership change occurred within al-Qaeda occurred weeks after the killing of bin Laden.

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Al-Zawahiri appointed al Qaeda's new leader, jihadist websites say

Ayman al-Zawahiri, the longtime deputy to Osama bin Laden, will take over leadership of al Qaeda, according to a statement posted on several jihadist websites Thursday.

http://articles.cnn....ial?_s=PM:WORLD


Al-Qaeda's New Leadership

Following Osama bin Laden's death, the Egyptian-born Saif al-Adel has reportedly been named interim leader of al-Qaeda. Here are some of the new terror head's qualifications:

http://www.theonion....adership,20519/

To sum it up, you can't change history from the comfort of your keyboard.

Edited by skyeagle409, 10 December 2012 - 04:12 PM.

[Q24]

skyeagle409, on 10 December 2012 - 04:05 PM, said:

Consider that a leadership change occurred within al-Qaeda occurred weeks after the killing of bin Laden.

This demonstrates an over-simplistic, and therefore poor, understanding indeed.

0 out of 10.

There is no set ‘leader’, fixed ‘structure’ or coherent group ‘Al Qaeda’ – looking at the history, this is a Western created myth to present a substantive enemy (a way to drive foreign policy in replacement of the deceased Soviet threat).  What there is, is a loose collection of individuals and groups with areas of overlapping common cause – including genuine Jihadists, though the most proactive of which were initiated and extensively infiltrated by intelligence services from the late 80s right up to 9/11 and beyond.  There is clear evidence of this and it must lead one to question what ‘Al Qaeda’ really are in the most part and with whom the most influential control rests.

[skyeagle409]

Q24, on 13 December 2012 - 01:08 PM, said:

This demonstrates an over-simplistic, and therefore poor, understanding indeed.

0 out of 10.

In your case, yes!

Apparently, you were not aware that bin Laden sent a tape in 2010, which meant he was not dead for many years.

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There is no set ‘leader’, fixed ‘structure’ or coherent group ‘Al Qaeda’ – looking at the history, this is a Western created myth to present a substantive enemy (a way to drive foreign policy in replacement of the deceased Soviet threat).

That doesn't work, because al-Qaeda admitted that American special forces killed bin Laden, which is why al-Qaeda announced bin Laden's replacement. In other words, American forces kicked bin Laden out of the picture.

[Q24]

skyeagle409, on 13 December 2012 - 08:03 PM, said:

In your case, yes!

Another inane response lacking reason.

skyeagle409, on 13 December 2012 - 08:03 PM, said:

Apparently, you were not aware that bin Laden sent a tape in 2010, which meant he was not dead for many years.

Apparently you have not even taken the time to read my recent argument before making judgement, which adds ‘ignorance’ to your long list of failures, i.e. I don’t believe bin Laden was dead until May 2^nd, 2011.  Do you actually check who you are responding to and whether your comments have any relevance to what is said?

skyeagle409, on 13 December 2012 - 08:03 PM, said:

That doesn't work, because al-Qaeda admitted that American special forces killed bin Laden, which is why al-Qaeda announced bin Laden's replacement. In other words, American forces kicked bin Laden out of the picture.

It works fine that ‘Al Qaeda’ is not the structured membership or organization that you want to believe and neither did any statement announce a ‘replacement’ for bin Laden.  The gist is rather more that the authors, who identify themselves as leaders of this loosely defined collection, are sorry for bin Laden’s death and will strive to continue his work with al-Zawahiri foremost amir (of which there are many) of the cause.

I agree that American forces ‘kicked bin Laden out of the picture’.  Though it appears that intelligence services of the ISI had bin Laden under control ever since 2001.

[skyeagle409]

Q24, on 14 December 2012 - 02:00 PM, said:

I agree that American forces ‘kicked bin Laden out of the picture’.  

Say it loud and clear for all to hear! I hope it will be loud enough for other 9/11 conspiracist to hear.

[Babe Ruth]

Talk about cherry-picking....

[skyeagle409]

Babe Ruth, on 14 December 2012 - 07:20 PM, said:

Talk about cherry-picking....

You can't argue with facts and evidence. You've said bin Laden was dead for years, which told me you were unaware that bin Laden released a tape to the Pakistani government in 2010. Once again, if you don't know, it is better to remain quiet than to remove all doubt confirming how much you don't know.

Edited by skyeagle409, 15 December 2012 - 03:31 AM.

[Babe Ruth]

Sky, you IGNORE facts and reason.  Further, you HAVE presented fictitious material here.

Once bitten, twice shy, my man.

You defend the Official Conspiracy Theory, and all the facts contradict that theory.  It is an invalid theory, and that has been known for years.

[skyeagle409]

Babe Ruth, on 15 December 2012 - 02:46 PM, said:

Sky, you IGNORE facts and reason.  Further, you HAVE presented fictitious material here.

Should I go back and repost what you have said? It will prove once again that you cannot be taken seriously because you've said that bin Laden had been dead for years and yet, bin Laden released his tape to Pakistan in 2010.

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You defend the Official Conspiracy Theory, and all the facts contradict that theory.

The official story is supported by facts and evidence, while on the other hand you have failed to provide a single shred of evidence that refutes the official story.

Edited by skyeagle409, 15 December 2012 - 04:18 PM.

[Babe Ruth]

You needn't do a thing Sky.  Just chill, and enjoy your old age.

[skyeagle409]

Babe Ruth, on 15 December 2012 - 07:30 PM, said:

You needn't do a thing Sky.  Just chill, and enjoy your old age.

Facts are facts, and evidence is evidence, which can't be denied.

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  It is an invalid theory, and that has been known for years.

That remark of yours is on par with your claim that Osama bin Laden has been dead for years when in fact you were unaware that bin Laden sent a tape to the Pakistani government in 2010, which simply means that bin Laden wasn't dead for years as you have wrongly claimed. In other words, we cannot take you seriously for obvious reasons and your track record is that evidence as to why we cannot take you seriously.

Edited by skyeagle409, 15 December 2012 - 07:42 PM.

[lightly]

There was one  barely audible  and partially recreated audio tape , which was verified  by an unnamed  expert pentagon voice analyst  to be the voice of Bin Laden,  in which he stated that he was in fact dead, and had been so for 17 months.    What more proof do we need ?