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#16    emily77

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Posted 08 July 2010 - 02:09 PM

I also like Erik Erikson's theories much better than Freud's in regards to childhood development.  

http://www.learningp...ize/Erikson.htm


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First off, let me just say that I am majoring in psychology, so I've learned a lot about Freud. With that being said, I absolutely cannot stand Freud ever since I learned his explanation for why people molest young children. His reasoning was, put simply, "they wanted it".
Seriously!? Ugh. That just sickens me. And it's also believed that he molested his daughter, Anna Freud. However, that can't be proven. There is however a letter that she wrote which she doesn't want to be opened until 2020. I wonder what that letter says....
Also, his entire psychosexual theory is ridiculous. To suggest that children have sexual instincts from birth is, in my opinion, complete idiocy. Then, Freud further develops his theory to suggest that all children have a desire to sleep with their opposite sex parent, which is how he came to believe that "children are molested because they want it". That's just sick.
And my last point is that he believes that all of adults problems are because of events that happened in one's childhood. I personally believe that what happened in the past should not be the focus of any patients psychological treatment. Because of this I disagree with psychoanalytic therapy. I believe client centered therapy is the way to go.

Whenever Freud comes up, I can't wait for the module to be over. Even both of my professors cannot stand his ideas, but teach it because it's part of the course.

That being said, I do find his ideas about the "unconscious" mind to be a little intriguing, more specifically the idea that dreams are the "Royal Road to the Unconscious". However, his beliefs about all childhood issues greatly overpowers my curiosity about his other ideas.

A psychologist that I do agree with is Eric Erikson. In contrast to Freud's psychosexual theory, Erikson created his psychosocial theory of development. To me, it makes more sense if you actually read through it instead of believing that children have sexual desires from the moment they are born.

Also, Pavlov's discovery about conditioning is amazing to me. I have done experiments using classical conditioning myself to see if I could get desirable results. It actually works! Pavlov (although accidentally) made a fine discovery.

I'd be interested to know what exactly you guys find interesting about Freud's research though.



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Posted 27 July 2010 - 06:49 AM

I once asked my former psychologist what he though about Freud's teachings. He said that they are very outdated concepts that have no real use in modern day psychiatry.

I would have to agree with him, although I recognize his small contributions to the field. He opened up the discussion about sexuality and it's relation to a person's personality. I don't find many of his theories that credible when taken against the more modern day ones.

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Posted 28 July 2010 - 03:13 PM

What made Freud great was his innovative approach to thinking.  The same thing that makes any great thinker great.  He shows a different way to look at the same thing.  From this different way it is then possible to establish more points of perception to perceive the same thing.  This is the result when thinking occurs amongst thinkers.

"The greatest Psychologist" is your own brain.

An illusion is an illusion.  The key difference between the two is that one is limited by time and the other by perception.

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Posted 28 July 2010 - 03:33 PM

Well, with Pavlov's experiments, if you act a certain way when you hear a bell ring, you bet it effects your life.Freud and Jung were both ground breakers in the field of psychology, in general, psychological analysis, dream interpertation(if you go for thhat interest), the recognition of the "ID", "EGO" and "SUPER EGO". They were not necessarily the "best" but I think had tthe best insight into thhe human psyche. But I'm just you run-of-the-mill psychologist/therapist, so what do I know? Flashback to too many Psych. classes and doing my disertation. :)

Edited by Graveyard Hound, 28 July 2010 - 04:13 PM.


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Posted 28 July 2010 - 04:08 PM

According to wiki:

Cocaine
As a medical researcher, Freud was an early user and proponent of cocaine as a stimulant as well as analgesic. He wrote several articles on the antidepressant qualities of the drug and he was influenced by friend and confidant Wilhelm Fliess, who recommended cocaine for the treatment of "nasal reflex neurosis". Fliess operated on the noses of Freud and a number of Freud's patients' whom he believed to be suffering the disorder, including Emma Eckstein, whose surgery proved disastrous.[31]

Freud felt that cocaine would work as a panacea and wrote a well-received paper, "On Coca", explaining its virtues. He prescribed it to his friend Ernst von Fleischl-Marxow to help him overcome a morphine addiction acquired while treating a disease of the nervous system.[32] Freud also recommended cocaine to many of his close family and friends. He narrowly missed out on obtaining scientific priority for discovering its anesthetic properties of which he was aware but had not written extensively. Karl Koller, a colleague of Freud's in Vienna, received that distinction in 1884 after reporting to a medical society the ways cocaine could be used in delicate eye surgery. Freud was bruised by this, especially because this would turn out to be one of the few safe uses of cocaine, as reports of addiction and overdose began to filter in from many places in the world. Freud's medical reputation became somewhat tarnished because of this early ambition. Furthermore, Freud's friend Fleischl-Marxow developed an acute case of "cocaine psychosis" as a result of Freud's prescriptions and died a few years later. Freud felt great regret over these events, dubbed by later biographers as "The Cocaine Incident".[citation needed] He managed to move on although some speculate that he continued to use cocaine after this event. Some critics have suggested that most of Freud's psychoanalytical theory was a byproduct of his cocaine use.[33]

http://en.wikipedia....d_Freud#Cocaine

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Posted 28 July 2010 - 05:17 PM

There is a documentary on Youtube on Freud actually.  That's pretty much where my understanding of him stems x).

An illusion is an illusion.  The key difference between the two is that one is limited by time and the other by perception.

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Posted 30 July 2010 - 02:33 AM

Jung's take on archetypal personality is right on the money in my experience.  Freud was a mess, total freak.

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