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#1    diablo_04

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Posted 28 June 2012 - 08:45 PM

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Posted 28 June 2012 - 08:47 PM

You're bored out of your mind too, right ?? :P

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Posted 28 June 2012 - 08:51 PM

View PostJonathanVonErich, on 28 June 2012 - 08:47 PM, said:

You're bored out of your mind too, right ?? :P
I'm so bored I'm willing to put hot water in the fridge and wait to see how long it needs to freeze :geek:

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Posted 28 June 2012 - 09:07 PM

View Postdiablo_04, on 28 June 2012 - 08:51 PM, said:

I'm so bored I'm willing to put hot water in the fridge and wait to see how long it needs to freeze :geek:

If you put it in the fridge, it won't freeze.


I always though it was a myth that hot water frezes faster than cold.

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Posted 28 June 2012 - 09:10 PM

View PostMyles, on 28 June 2012 - 09:07 PM, said:

If you put it in the fridge, it won't freeze.


I always though it was a myth that hot water frezes faster than cold.

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Posted 28 June 2012 - 09:10 PM

Does cold water boil faster than hot water?

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Posted 28 June 2012 - 09:11 PM

How about making it a real fun event? Put the hot water in the freezer, then paint the freezer door and see which happens first - freezing or drying. How can you be bored?

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Posted 28 June 2012 - 09:29 PM

View PostMyles, on 28 June 2012 - 09:10 PM, said:

Does cold water boil faster than hot water?
I know that water have different boiling pints, depends of the atmospheric pressure and temperature in that place.

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Posted 28 June 2012 - 09:33 PM

View Postealdwita, on 28 June 2012 - 09:11 PM, said:

How about making it a real fun event? Put the hot water in the freezer, then paint the freezer door and see which happens first - freezing or drying. How can you be bored?

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if the windows are closed and i inhale the vapor from the drying paint, I'm sure I won't be bored :w00t:

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Posted 30 June 2012 - 05:50 AM

Hey its surface area dude!

If you put a flat piece of steak in the fridge it will freeze quicker than if you roll it into a ball and compress it.

If you heat water up to a certain temperature and the molecules are far enough apart, then there will be a microscopic space between particles. This then creates a greater surface area, and the cooling process can occur qiucker.

If I am correct, and you take a disection of the heated/frozen water and compare it to the cooler/frozen water, you should  noticed that the heated/frozen water will have a greater amount of trapped air in it, just as hail stones and pumace stones have.

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Posted 30 June 2012 - 06:01 AM

View PostMyles, on 28 June 2012 - 09:10 PM, said:

Does cold water boil faster than hot water?
Short answer yes.
Funny too if you add impurities such as salt it will "appear" to boil more vigorously sooner....
But Meh take what I say with a grain of salt... LOL

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Posted 30 June 2012 - 07:57 AM

I think that hot water freezes quicker than cold water because :-
When water is cold, the water molecules are moving around very slowly.
When water is hot the molecules are moving around very fast.
If the molecules are already moving slowly it takes a lot of energy to slow them to a complete standstill, ie freeze them solid.
But, if the molecules are moving fast but slowing down very quickly due to the cold temperature of the outside environment, they dont need as much energy to take them over the threshold into solid/frozen state.
Does that make any sense? lol :)

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Posted 30 June 2012 - 07:59 AM

Watched pots never boil.

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Posted 30 June 2012 - 08:11 AM

View PostChumpy8, on 30 June 2012 - 05:50 AM, said:

Hey its surface area dude!

If you put a flat piece of steak in the fridge it will freeze quicker than if you roll it into a ball and compress it.

If you heat water up to a certain temperature and the molecules are far enough apart, then there will be a microscopic space between particles. This then creates a greater surface area, and the cooling process can occur qiucker.

If I am correct, and you take a disection of the heated/frozen water and compare it to the cooler/frozen water, you should  noticed that the heated/frozen water will have a greater amount of trapped air in it, just as hail stones and pumace stones have.

Hey next time you walk past a homeless dude on a cold night, check to see if they are laying flat on their back or curled up in a ball. Yeah well thats my 2cents worth, my break is over, gotta go back to work and flip burgers.

Welcome to the forum Chumpy, great first post.(although i have no idea if it's correct) .

So what cooks faster, a frozen patty or a thawed one?

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Posted 30 June 2012 - 10:04 PM

Hey GOOD question. I wish I could answer it, but our refridgerator broke down last week, so I won't be able to give you an answer until it gets fixed next week. My question to you is
"How many days can a beef patty stay fresh for?"
I guess the answer to this question will have to be a work-in-progress. But while I'm waiting I might take "ealdwita's" advice and paint the fridge.




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