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[TheMacGuffin]

The Sky Scanner, on 07 September 2012 - 10:00 PM, said:

Why doesn't it ring true to you?

Aside from old BMK never ringing true, see above.  Plus it was too slow to be an asteroid or comet anyway.

Edited by TheMacGuffin, 07 September 2012 - 10:18 PM.

[Sky Scanner]

TheMacGuffin, on 07 September 2012 - 10:13 PM, said:

Aside from old BMK never ringing true, see above.  Plus it was too slow to be an asteroid or comet anyway.

But we haven't mapped every single comet or asteroid out there, so we don't know the characteristics of them all to be able draw the conclusions you are. BMK's own link stated "Consideration of the circumstances of discovery of P/2010 A2 suggests that similar objects must be common, and that future all-sky surveys will reveal them in large numbers."

You seem to be jumping ahead with not enough info to go on.

[TheMacGuffin]

The Sky Scanner, on 07 September 2012 - 10:21 PM, said:

But we haven't mapped every single comet or asteroid out there, so we don't know the characteristics of them all to be able draw the conclusions you are. BMK's own link stated "Consideration of the circumstances of discovery of P/2010 A2 suggests that similar objects must be common, and that future all-sky surveys will reveal them in large numbers."

You seem to be jumping ahead with not enough info to go on.

Plus he had the wrong date for his "collision", if that's what it was, since they had pictures of the same thing flying around a month before that.

[Sky Scanner]

TheMacGuffin, on 07 September 2012 - 10:35 PM, said:

Plus he had the wrong date for his "collision", if that's what it was, since they had pictures of the same thing flying around a month before that.

It isn't his collision, it's from the Astronomical Journal, and it says it's a recently disrupted asteroid, probably resulting from a collision.

[bmk1245]

TheMacGuffin, on 07 September 2012 - 10:13 PM, said:

Aside from old BMK never ringing true, see above.  Plus it was too slow to be an asteroid or comet anyway.

Now, lets see how "Hubble first detected the X-shaped object in late January and clocked it at 11,000mph." appeared:

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Asteroid collisions are energetic, with an average impact speed of more than 11,000 miles per hour, or five times faster than a rifle bullet.

(link)
Apparently media takes numbers out of context and then wraps in any cloth they like.

Edited by bmk1245, 07 September 2012 - 11:24 PM.

[TheMacGuffin]

The Sky Scanner, on 07 September 2012 - 10:38 PM, said:

It isn't his collision, it's from the Astronomical Journal, and it says it's a recently disrupted asteroid, probably resulting from a collision.

It sounds like they made a little boo-boo about their dates and he just repeated it.  I never thought this was a natural or conventional object, for the reasons given.

[Kazoo]

No breaking news?

Time to quote smart people.

Same thing happens whenever Stephen hawking saids anything.

[TheMacGuffin]

bmk1245, on 07 September 2012 - 11:22 PM, said:

Now, lets see how "Hubble first detected the X-shaped object in late January and clocked it at 11,000mph." appeared:
(link)
Apparently media takes numbers out of context and then wraps in any cloth they like.

Yes, that's what many websites said, including Hubblesite, 15,000 Km per hour, 90-100 million miles from earth.  Not following the normal orbit of comets or asteroids, although naturally some non-ET "explanation" is always slapped on all these events.



"FEBRUARY 2, 2010: Something awfully curious is happening 100 million miles from Earth in the asteroid belt. There's a newly discovered object that superficially looks like a comet but lives among the asteroids. The distinction? Comets swoop along elliptical orbits close in to the Sun and grow long gaseous and dusty tails, as ices near the surface turn into vapor and release dust. But asteroids are mostly in circular orbits in the asteroid belt and are not normally expected to be "volatile."

The mystery object was discovered on January 6, 2010, by the Lincoln Near-Earth Asteroid Research (LINEAR) sky survey. The object appears so unusual in ground-based telescopic images that discretionary time on NASA's Hubble Space Telescope was used to take a close-up look. The observations show a bizarre X-pattern of filamentary structures near the point-like nucleus of the object and trailing streamers of dust. This complex structure suggests the object is not a comet but instead the product of a head-on collision between two asteroids traveling five times faster than a rifle bullet. Astronomers have long thought that the asteroid belt is being ground down through collisions, but such a smashup has never before been seen."


http://hubblesite.or...leases/2010/07/

[DONTEATUS]

TheMacGuffin, on 07 September 2012 - 04:39 PM, said:

And when The End comes, you'll all be grateful that I posted helpful advice like this short video.  LOL

THey left out the Kitty gettin the tuna !
  Gotta be a prepper trick?

[readerlurker]

Never happen with SETI.

[bmk1245]

TheMacGuffin, on 08 September 2012 - 03:03 AM, said:

Yes, that's what many websites said, including Hubblesite,[...]

Definitely you did not read full article.

TheMacGuffin, on 08 September 2012 - 03:03 AM, said:

[...]15,000 Km per hour, 90-100 million miles from earth. [...]

Did you ever heard of relative motion? Simple situation: if one moving object at 70000 mph (orbital velocity) will be impacted from behind by another whose orbital velocity is 80000 mph, what impact velocity will be, huh?

TheMacGuffin, on 08 September 2012 - 03:03 AM, said:

[...]Not following the normal orbit of comets or asteroids, although naturally some non-ET "explanation" is always slapped on all these events.
[...]

Wrong! From your own link:

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The orbit of P/2010 A2 is itself consistent with membership in the Flora asteroid family, produced by collisional shattering a few hundred million years ago.

Read full articles.

[Horus Christos]

Nice try BMK, but as you know its hard to argue with people who "know" they are right and can prove it by explaining that any facts presented to refute their "gut feelings" are part of a governmental cover-up.  They are something like religious fanatics..you can't prove to them that they are wrong because they simply refuse to acknowledge the possibility that they can be wrong. It must be nice to be so narrow-minded so as to be convinced that you can never be wrong (mmmm...that reminds me of my ex, who has never admitted to being wrong in her life either)

[DONTEATUS]

Horus Christos, on 08 September 2012 - 04:49 PM, said:

Nice try BMK, but as you know its hard to argue with people who "know" they are right and can prove it by explaining that any facts presented to refute their "gut feelings" are part of a governmental cover-up.  They are something like religious fanatics..you can't prove to them that they are wrong because they simply refuse to acknowledge the possibility that they can be wrong. It must be nice to be so narrow-minded so as to be convinced that you can never be wrong (mmmm...that reminds me of my ex, who has never admitted to being wrong in her life either)

I love the ex-part ! We all never like to admit that our own opinions could be flawed ! But in the end theres only one reality,thats the facts Good hard work can always find the facts on any subject.
ITs why we are able to send things to Mars and the Moon, Like people. We did our homework,we built our machines ! We DId Build that !
As for the CT`s and Politicians and such ! Well there all out to lunch as Always ! Good post "Horus"

[bmk1245]

Horus Christos, on 08 September 2012 - 04:49 PM, said:

Nice try BMK, but as you know its hard to argue with people who "know" they are right and can prove it by explaining that any facts presented to refute their "gut feelings" are part of a governmental cover-up.  They are something like religious fanatics..you can't prove to them that they are wrong because they simply refuse to acknowledge the possibility that they can be wrong. It must be nice to be so narrow-minded so as to be convinced that you can never be wrong (mmmm...that reminds me of my ex, who has never admitted to being wrong in her life either)

... or he is just fooling around angry of "evil" skeptics. On the other hand, making such a blooper with putting his own words into  M.Kaku's mouth... damn, even Gary t.R. and Beetlejuice  would spot that...

[badeskov]

TheMacGuffin, on 07 September 2012 - 10:13 PM, said:

Aside from old BMK never ringing true, see above.  Plus it was too slow to be an asteroid or comet anyway.

We know. You have more than adequately demonstrated an abhorrence towards anything factual and/or rational that tends to go against your ET belief.

Cheers,
Badeskov