Jump to content




Welcome to Unexplained Mysteries! Please sign in or create an account to start posting and to access a host of extra features.


- - - - -

Assad: Israelis Helping Terrorists


  • Please log in to reply
178 replies to this topic

#1    AlasBabylon

AlasBabylon

    Extraterrestrial Entity

  • Banned
  • PipPipPip
  • 430 posts
  • Joined:28 Sep 2007
  • Gender:Not Selected

Posted 18 May 2013 - 06:34 PM

.

" Assad accuses Israel of supporting 'terror groups' in Syria "

http://www.jpost.com...in-Syria-313552



" Speaking during an interview with the Argentine newspaper Clarin, which was reported Saturday in The Guardian,
Assad said Israel tells Syrian "terrorist groups" which sites to attack and how to attack them. "


http://www.haaretz.c...rebels-1.524630



The Guardian interview link


http://www.guardian....community-video



.


#2    Coffey

Coffey

    Majestic 12 Operative

  • Member
  • 5,671 posts
  • Joined:09 Oct 2009
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Norwich UK

  • "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." - Winston Churchill

Posted 18 May 2013 - 07:40 PM

Well it is the truth. lol


So is the US. They done the exact same thing in Libya. Supporting Al Qaeda as well. It's hilarious when you listen to Obama's speech on 9/11 then he supports the exact people he says are evil terrorists. lol

When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace.

#3    and then

and then

    Abyssus Abyssum Invocat

  • Member
  • 13,211 posts
  • Joined:15 Dec 2011
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Land's End

  • Because what came before never seems enough...

Posted 18 May 2013 - 09:52 PM

View PostCoffey, on 18 May 2013 - 07:40 PM, said:

Well it is the truth. lol


So is the US. They done the exact same thing in Libya. Supporting Al Qaeda as well. It's hilarious when you listen to Obama's speech on 9/11 then he supports the exact people he says are evil terrorists. lol
Israel is just practicing cya in Syria.  They really are just interdicting weapons.  They are just as apt to help either side if it helps Israel and they should - they are just trying to keep their people safe.  If Assad wins he will try to harm Israel and if the rebels win they definitely will attack Israel as soon as they can so Israel has no incentive to do anything but work against them both.
As for Obama's policies there - who the hell knows?  grrrrrrr

Edited by and then, 18 May 2013 - 09:53 PM.

  We've cast the world, we've set the stage,
  for what could be, the darkest age...

#4    Yes_Man

Yes_Man

    hi

  • Member
  • 7,963 posts
  • Joined:22 Apr 2006
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Portsmouth

Posted 18 May 2013 - 10:27 PM

Even if is true why Israel is helping their number one enemy? Terrorists hate Israel to the death.
Assad hates Israel to the death


#5    Mr Walker

Mr Walker

    Forum Divinity

  • Member
  • 14,880 posts
  • Joined:09 Nov 2005
  • Gender:Not Selected
  • Location:Australia

  • Sometimes the Phantom leaves the jungle, and walks the streets of the city like an ordinary man.

Posted 19 May 2013 - 08:21 AM

View PostThe New Richard Nixon, on 18 May 2013 - 10:27 PM, said:

Even if is true why Israel is helping their number one enemy? Terrorists hate Israel to the death.
Assad hates Israel to the death
The assad regime is sending new and powerul rockets to hezbollah in lebanon to be used in strikes against Israeli people and territory.. There is another  islamic religious faction opposed to hezbollah in Lebanon.

  My guess is that israel's first priority is to weaken Assad's regime and perhaps see it fall, then deal with the aftermath. But, also, it is supporting the opponents of hezbollah in lebanon so as to weaken that faction which is one of the most active terrorist groups striking at Israel Those Hezbollah forces, on the other hand, are already fighting for Assads regime and against the syrian rebels. It comes back to religion  and the various sects of Islam, who seem to hate each other at least as much as they hate the jews.

You are a child of the universe, no less than the trees and the stars; you have a right to be here. And whether or not it is clear to you, no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should.

Therefore be at peace with God, whatever you conceive Him to be, and whatever your labors and aspirations, in the noisy confusion of life keep peace with your soul.

With all its sham, drudgery and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world..

Be cheerful.

Strive to be happy.

#6    Black Red Devil

Black Red Devil

    Mean as Hell

  • Member
  • 2,297 posts
  • Joined:04 Oct 2008
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Sydney

  • I would if I could
    But I can't, so I won't

Posted 19 May 2013 - 10:14 AM

View PostMr Walker, on 19 May 2013 - 08:21 AM, said:

The assad regime is sending new and powerul rockets to hezbollah in lebanon to be used in strikes against Israeli people and territory.. There is another  islamic religious faction opposed to hezbollah in Lebanon.

  My guess is that israel's first priority is to weaken Assad's regime and perhaps see it fall, then deal with the aftermath. But, also, it is supporting the opponents of hezbollah in lebanon so as to weaken that faction which is one of the most active terrorist groups striking at Israel Those Hezbollah forces, on the other hand, are already fighting for Assads regime and against the syrian rebels. It comes back to religion  and the various sects of Islam, who seem to hate each other at least as much as they hate the jews.

So it's OK for Israel to support terrorists is it?

Edited by Black Red Devil, 19 May 2013 - 10:15 AM.

We are each our own devil, and we make this world our hell

- Oscar Wilde

#7    Mr Walker

Mr Walker

    Forum Divinity

  • Member
  • 14,880 posts
  • Joined:09 Nov 2005
  • Gender:Not Selected
  • Location:Australia

  • Sometimes the Phantom leaves the jungle, and walks the streets of the city like an ordinary man.

Posted 19 May 2013 - 11:15 AM

As I am sure you would quote to me, "One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter"

This is an internicine civil war based on religious differnces. I dont think one side is much better than the other, actually especaily with some alquieda and libyan jihadists working with the rebels as very effective fighters, but its a civil war. The rebels, like the rebels in egypt and  libya, are no more terrorists then the southern states of america were terrorists in the american civil war.

Israel is supporting the rebels because they are the faction opposed to hezbollah, which is a direct threat to Israel security and who are terrorists in that their actions are directed against a separate independent state in a war of terror against civilian populations..

You are a child of the universe, no less than the trees and the stars; you have a right to be here. And whether or not it is clear to you, no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should.

Therefore be at peace with God, whatever you conceive Him to be, and whatever your labors and aspirations, in the noisy confusion of life keep peace with your soul.

With all its sham, drudgery and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world..

Be cheerful.

Strive to be happy.

#8    third_eye

third_eye

    _ M Ġ ń Ř Ī Ş_

  • Member
  • 6,959 posts
  • Joined:06 Nov 2010
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Malaysia

  • "Legio nomen mihi est, quia multi sumus"

    God has no religion ~ Mahatma Gandhi

Posted 19 May 2013 - 11:34 AM

It's the same Iran-Iraq fiasco again .... as long as they're happy fighting each other they won't be bothering others ...

except nowadays they have that Iran-Iraq fiasco to learn from, everyone seems to think they have learned how to beat  each other with a newly learned system...

The Taliban think tank is probably laughing the hardest at all this madness ... Syria is in a bad state ... and I mean really really bad state.

Whichever side comes out of this with breath and bones intact would want redemption, and that road is going to be one long bloody path once again.

Quote

' ... life and death carry on as they always have ~ and always will, only the dreamer is gone ~ behind the flow of imagination, beyond any effort to be still
dancing in the ebb and flow of attention, more present than the breath, I find the origins of my illusions, only the dreamer is gone ~ the dream never ends
'

GIFTS WITH NO GIVER - a love affair with truth ~ Poems by Nirmala

third_eye ' s cavern ~ bring own beer


#9    Yes_Man

Yes_Man

    hi

  • Member
  • 7,963 posts
  • Joined:22 Apr 2006
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Portsmouth

Posted 19 May 2013 - 11:38 AM

also why does Assad say "Terrorists" and not name the groups.
He needs to say who are they not act like a toddler saying "They did it" or "I know they did it because they did it"


#10    Coffey

Coffey

    Majestic 12 Operative

  • Member
  • 5,671 posts
  • Joined:09 Oct 2009
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Norwich UK

  • "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." - Winston Churchill

Posted 19 May 2013 - 11:49 AM

View PostBlack Red Devil, on 19 May 2013 - 10:14 AM, said:

So it's OK for Israel to support terrorists is it?


Please research why Hezbollah was created. Then you might see who the true terrorists are.


Here is a snippet from Wikipedia:

Quote

Hezbollah was conceived by Muslim clerics and funded by Iran following the Israeli invasion of Lebanon, and was primarily formed to offer resistance to the Israeli occupation


Sounds like freedom fighters to me, not terrorists. Israeli forces killed a lot of innocent woman and children. That is terrorism.

Edited by Coffey, 19 May 2013 - 11:50 AM.

When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace.

#11    Mr Walker

Mr Walker

    Forum Divinity

  • Member
  • 14,880 posts
  • Joined:09 Nov 2005
  • Gender:Not Selected
  • Location:Australia

  • Sometimes the Phantom leaves the jungle, and walks the streets of the city like an ordinary man.

Posted 19 May 2013 - 12:25 PM

View PostCoffey, on 19 May 2013 - 11:49 AM, said:

Please research why Hezbollah was created. Then you might see who the true terrorists are.


Here is a snippet from Wikipedia:




Sounds like freedom fighters to me, not terrorists. Israeli forces killed a lot of innocent woman and children. That is terrorism.

Id suggest you read this site.
http://www.start.umd...ile.asp?id=3101

Aliases Islamic Jihad, Islamic Jihad for the Liberation of Palestine, Organization of the Oppressed on Earth, Party of God, Revolutionary Justice Organization, The Islamic Resistance.

Hezbollah soon began running training camps in the Bekaa Valley and other parts of Lebanon that instructed members of Hezbollah and other terrorist organizations how to conduct assassinations, kidnappings, suicide bombings, and guerilla warfare.



Hezbollah's stated objectives include the establishment of a Shiite theocracy in Lebanon, the destruction of Israel, and the elimination of Western influences from the Middle East. Over the last 20 plus years, Hezbollah has not only professionalized its military capabilities but also joined Lebanon's political process and enmeshed itself into the social fabric of Lebanese society.


In the early 1980s, Hezbollah popularized suicide bombings as an effective terrorist tactic. In April 1983, Hezbollah allegedly blew up a van filled with explosives in front of the U.S. embassy in Beirut killing 58 Americans and Lebanese. Then in October 1983, Hezbollah is believed to be responsible for a truck bomb that detonated in the U.S. Marine barracks killing 241 American peacekeepers, and a simultaneous truck bombing at the French barracks that killed 58 French soldiers. These attacks contributed to the decision to withdraw U.S. forces from Lebanon the following year. Hezbollah also carried out a number of kidnappings of Westerners in Lebanon during the mid 1980s, in which they executed the hostages or traded them for money or weapons.

In addition to Lebanon, Hezbollah's security apparatus operates in Europe, North and South America, East Asia, and other parts of the Middle East, and it is believed to be responsible for a number of other high profile terrorist attacks. In 1985 Hezbollah members hijacked TWA flight 847 and held the 39 Americans on board hostage for weeks. In addition, the 1992 bombing of the Israeli Embassy in Argentina and the 1994 bombing of a Jewish cultural centre in Buenos Aires are attributed to Hezbollah. Furthermore, in June 1996, Hezbollah allegedly attacked the Khobar Towers housing complex in Dharan, Saudi Arabia, killing 19 U.S servicemen and wounding hundreds of others.



Naa! Pretty sure they meet the criteria for a terrorist organisation. If there is still any doubt look at these graphs of  over 300 different "incidents" attributed to hezbollah.
http://www.start.umd...perpetrator=407

Edited by Mr Walker, 19 May 2013 - 12:55 PM.

You are a child of the universe, no less than the trees and the stars; you have a right to be here. And whether or not it is clear to you, no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should.

Therefore be at peace with God, whatever you conceive Him to be, and whatever your labors and aspirations, in the noisy confusion of life keep peace with your soul.

With all its sham, drudgery and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world..

Be cheerful.

Strive to be happy.

#12    meryt-tetisheri

meryt-tetisheri

    Psychic Spy

  • Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,221 posts
  • Joined:12 Dec 2006
  • Gender:Female

Posted 19 May 2013 - 12:36 PM

View PostMr Walker, on 19 May 2013 - 08:21 AM, said:

The assad regime is sending new and powerul rockets to hezbollah in lebanon to be used in strikes against Israeli people and territory.. There is another  islamic religious faction opposed to hezbollah in Lebanon.

  My guess is that israel's first priority is to weaken Assad's regime and perhaps see it fall, then deal with the aftermath. But, also, it is supporting the opponents of hezbollah in lebanon so as to weaken that faction which is one of the most active terrorist groups striking at Israel Those Hezbollah forces, on the other hand, are already fighting for Assads regime and against the syrian rebels. It comes back to religion  and the various sects of Islam, who seem to hate each other at least as much as they hate the jews.

And if the 'aftermath' turns out to be much worse? It seems that the tragedy of the ME is that all policies and decisions dealing with it, whether local or foreign, are largely based on assumptions and short term goals! Civilians are the ones who end up paying the price for these decisions. I am not supporting Assad, but I think a closer, realistic analysis of long term effects of supporting certain rebel groups is crucial. Getting rid of one tyranny just to replace it with a more oppressive one is no help to the Syrian people who will have to live with the consequences, while decision makers and think tanks are watching safely from afar!


#13    Coffey

Coffey

    Majestic 12 Operative

  • Member
  • 5,671 posts
  • Joined:09 Oct 2009
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Norwich UK

  • "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." - Winston Churchill

Posted 19 May 2013 - 01:34 PM

View PostMr Walker, on 19 May 2013 - 12:25 PM, said:

Id suggest you read this site.
http://www.start.umd...ile.asp?id=3101

Aliases Islamic Jihad, Islamic Jihad for the Liberation of Palestine, Organization of the Oppressed on Earth, Party of God, Revolutionary Justice Organization, The Islamic Resistance.

Hezbollah soon began running training camps in the Bekaa Valley and other parts of Lebanon that instructed members of Hezbollah and other terrorist organizations how to conduct assassinations, kidnappings, suicide bombings, and guerilla warfare.



Hezbollah's stated objectives include the establishment of a Shiite theocracy in Lebanon, the destruction of Israel, and the elimination of Western influences from the Middle East. Over the last 20 plus years, Hezbollah has not only professionalized its military capabilities but also joined Lebanon's political process and enmeshed itself into the social fabric of Lebanese society.


In the early 1980s, Hezbollah popularized suicide bombings as an effective terrorist tactic. In April 1983, Hezbollah allegedly blew up a van filled with explosives in front of the U.S. embassy in Beirut killing 58 Americans and Lebanese. Then in October 1983, Hezbollah is believed to be responsible for a truck bomb that detonated in the U.S. Marine barracks killing 241 American peacekeepers, and a simultaneous truck bombing at the French barracks that killed 58 French soldiers. These attacks contributed to the decision to withdraw U.S. forces from Lebanon the following year. Hezbollah also carried out a number of kidnappings of Westerners in Lebanon during the mid 1980s, in which they executed the hostages or traded them for money or weapons.

In addition to Lebanon, Hezbollah's security apparatus operates in Europe, North and South America, East Asia, and other parts of the Middle East, and it is believed to be responsible for a number of other high profile terrorist attacks. In 1985 Hezbollah members hijacked TWA flight 847 and held the 39 Americans on board hostage for weeks. In addition, the 1992 bombing of the Israeli Embassy in Argentina and the 1994 bombing of a Jewish cultural centre in Buenos Aires are attributed to Hezbollah. Furthermore, in June 1996, Hezbollah allegedly attacked the Khobar Towers housing complex in Dharan, Saudi Arabia, killing 19 U.S servicemen and wounding hundreds of others.



Naa! Pretty sure they meet the criteria for a terrorist organisation. If there is still any doubt look at these graphs of  over 300 different "incidents" attributed to hezbollah.
http://www.start.umd...perpetrator=407


And all that was in retaliation to Israels occupation of Lebanon and the killing of innocent civilians. If Israel didn't do that then there would be Hezbollah. lol If you advocate the US and European forces fighting in Afghanistan because of 9/11 then you would be a hypocrite to say Hezbollah was not right in fighting back. Yes suicide bombing are not a nice way to do it, but we use airstrikes which flatten areas and kill far more civilians than any suicide bomber. lol I find it hilerious how we are so disgusted by suicide bombing when we allow our military to carry out massacres on a larger scale. lol

When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace.

#14    third_eye

third_eye

    _ M Ġ ń Ř Ī Ş_

  • Member
  • 6,959 posts
  • Joined:06 Nov 2010
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Malaysia

  • "Legio nomen mihi est, quia multi sumus"

    God has no religion ~ Mahatma Gandhi

Posted 19 May 2013 - 01:44 PM

Posted Image


seems things like this gets lost in the heat of moments ....



Quote

' ... life and death carry on as they always have ~ and always will, only the dreamer is gone ~ behind the flow of imagination, beyond any effort to be still
dancing in the ebb and flow of attention, more present than the breath, I find the origins of my illusions, only the dreamer is gone ~ the dream never ends
'

GIFTS WITH NO GIVER - a love affair with truth ~ Poems by Nirmala

third_eye ' s cavern ~ bring own beer


#15    and then

and then

    Abyssus Abyssum Invocat

  • Member
  • 13,211 posts
  • Joined:15 Dec 2011
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Land's End

  • Because what came before never seems enough...

Posted 19 May 2013 - 01:53 PM

View Postthird_eye, on 19 May 2013 - 11:34 AM, said:

It's the same Iran-Iraq fiasco again .... as long as they're happy fighting each other they won't be bothering others ...

except nowadays they have that Iran-Iraq fiasco to learn from, everyone seems to think they have learned how to beat  each other with a newly learned system...

The Taliban think tank is probably laughing the hardest at all this madness ... Syria is in a bad state ... and I mean really really bad state.

Whichever side comes out of this with breath and bones intact would want redemption, and that road is going to be one long bloody path once again.
A VERY bloody one!  This is what I've been saying as well.  A short breathing space to rest and rearm and then the main event will begin.  They have already started the battle cry - "Next to Jerusalem" and the Israelis are going to be like "allow us to retort!"

  We've cast the world, we've set the stage,
  for what could be, the darkest age...




0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users