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#1    docyabut2

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Posted 04 July 2012 - 05:28 PM

Lillie Leonardi sits behind a table that has a book on angels in her living room as she shows some copies of her book “In the Shadow of a Badge: A Spiritual Memoir,” on Tuesday, July 3, 2012, in Arnold, Pa. Leonardi, a former police officer who retired from the FBI due to post-traumatic stress disorder from her time as a liaison between law enforcement and the victims of United Airlines Flight 93 has written a book about seeing legions of angels guarding the site where the hijacked airliner


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Posted 04 July 2012 - 05:37 PM

It's a wonderful sentiment but I'm not sure how believable it is.  It seems an odd time to be publishing such a book but I wish her luck.

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Posted 04 July 2012 - 07:29 PM

View Postdocyabut2, on 04 July 2012 - 05:31 PM, said:

... a former police officer who retired from the FBI due to post-traumatic stress disorder

I wonder if the PTSD is comorbid with anything else.

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Posted 04 July 2012 - 07:44 PM

i read this today on ATS, i personally think its interesting.
its a topic i like looking jnto, but im no beliver in such things.

i also think it depends on whether or not you belive in this or not and also
whether you allow yourself to become open to this.

interesting read none the less!

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Posted 04 July 2012 - 09:24 PM

It kinda gives one hope there`s more to this life ")


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Posted 04 July 2012 - 11:32 PM

I'm not saying she is lying, but she was not the only one there, but but the was the only one to see "angels", the brain can do wonders in a very stressful situation.

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 09:23 AM

View Postdiablo_04, on 04 July 2012 - 11:32 PM, said:

I'm not saying she is lying, but she was not the only one there, but but the was the only one to see "angels", the brain can do wonders in a very stressful situation.

Exactly what I was thinking.  I would absolutely love to believe that there were angels there that day but she said herself it was misty and there was smoke and in what was obviously a stressfull and upsetting situation it could have been her brain / sub conscious creating things.

Although I REALLY hope it was real.


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Posted 05 July 2012 - 10:58 AM

And not to forget, you don't need a book to tell your story, except if you want to make money of it. And she is telling this story after she wrote the book, she was keeping quit until its good for promotion.

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 11:22 AM

View Postdiablo_04, on 04 July 2012 - 11:32 PM, said:

I'm not saying she is lying, but she was not the only one there, but but the was the only one to see "angels", the brain can do wonders in a very stressful situation.

Was away to say this, all the awful things she would have seen as well in the FBI. She probably needed somehting to cling to for hope.

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 11:45 AM

View Postdiablo_04, on 04 July 2012 - 11:32 PM, said:

I'm not saying she is lying, but she was not the only one there, but but the was the only one to see "angels", the brain can do wonders in a very stressful situation.

It's a good recipe for profit. FBI employee (reliable witness at first glance) see's Angels and on retirement writes a book about her experiences (add a dash of UA flight 93 here). Do a few interviews to whip up interest, then bingo, a nice retirement fund.

Sorry to be so cynical, in her defence can burning pine and jet fuel fumes cause hallucinations?

Edited by Junior Chubb, 05 July 2012 - 11:46 AM.

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 12:02 PM

PROP CREW MAYBE!!! :tu:


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Posted 05 July 2012 - 12:51 PM

PTSD is a stress disorder, that could be caused by a feeling of helplessness in the wake of a traumatic event or events, that does resolve itself after a period of time. PTSD occurs in comparatively higher rates in those populations, such as law enforcement, fire, and EMS, that are exposed to these rather bizarre incidents.  PTSD often manifests itself in the form of nightmares, fear and avoidance. The mention of her interacting with a support group and even writing about the event is suggestive of post traumatic growth. What she believed she saw, she probably does indeed believe.


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Posted 05 July 2012 - 01:05 PM

Yes, even people of authority can see things that aren't there.


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Posted 05 July 2012 - 02:52 PM

Perhaps what is more interesting is how she knows what she saw were "angels". As far as I know, no one knows what an angel looks like. I wonder why she didn't consider those whispy beings she believes she saw to be aliens. I mean really, the two possibilities should have been just as plausible to her. But no, she states absolutely that they were angels.

If I were a trained FBI agent and I saw some phenomenon that I could not conventioanlly account for, I would report that I saw some phenomenon that I could not conventionally account for. Attributing meaning and baselessly attempting to positively identify it wouldn't be the first thing I would do.

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 02:54 PM

Ex-McDonald's employee claims she saw angels

Does that sound any different to you?





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