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#16    cladking

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 12:38 AM

View PostAtentutankh-pasheri, on 04 March 2013 - 04:22 PM, said:

And the Muslim Brotherhood are atheists then........ Oh, and the Taliban who destroyed the giant Budha statues. And who massacred about 70 tourists at Luxor some years back? militant atheists perhaps....

I'm not excusing bad behavior no matter what the cause.

I simply don't think selling or renting the rights to the pyramids is in any way bad behavior.  More
than anything though they'll need political stability to get tourism back so I personally doubt they
can even find a buyer at this point in time due to the huge risk.

My point is merely that the Bible says quite wisely that those without sin should cast the first stone
and that those who live in glass houses are unwise to throw stones.  I've no doubt the Koran has
similar passages.  These things go double when it is we ourselves who invented waste and the in-
ability of people who work hard to earn a decent living and for many to lack work at all.

It is evil to destroy and this applies to almost all of God's and man's creations.  It is destruction that
has led, at least indirectly, to the tribulations in Egypt.  In the improbable event that they destroyed
the pyramids it woiuld not only be an evil and a divorce from their own past and present but it would
also be a sort of shooting oneself in the foot.  They simultaneously would show the world that they
don't want tourism, cash flow, or even knowledge of themselves but that Egypt is a very dangerous
place run by zealots and those who want to hide from the rest of the world.  They'll be left to feed count-
less millions with only what they have at hand.  It's really not relevant here what they did in these ot-
her places because Egypt isn't like Afghanistan.  It's extremely unlikely they'd desire to leave the world
stage and being among the decision makers.  Egypt can have far more effect as a modern country than
Afghanistan could have dreamed to when it was taken over by zealots.  Much of their GNP was derived
from the manufacture of mostly illegal drugs.  Their entire country was in shambles when when the Tal-
iban took it over.  Few people had any interest or ability to affect the outcome.  These things simply
don't apply to Egypt.

I believe (and pray) they will come out of this with a stable modern governmment and remain an important
voice in the world.  I don't know what this will look like and at this point, Egypt doesn't know either.

Men fear the pyramid, time fears man.

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 01:01 AM

it's only stone? what a load of rubbish


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Posted 05 March 2013 - 04:08 PM

View Postcladking, on 05 March 2013 - 12:38 AM, said:

I believe (and pray) they will come out of this with a stable modern governmment and remain an important
voice in the world.  I don't know what this will look like and at this point, Egypt doesn't know either.
Normally, the desire for stabilty and abilty to aquire money overcomes any religious zealotry. But we can see that much damage can be done before the religious hysterics are put back in their box. Examples are the ikonoclasts in Constantinople, the mania for destruction during the reformation in Northern Europe and it's continuation well into the 17th century. This, to me, seems to be a specificaly religious phenomena. For instance, while there was a great deal of bloodshed in revolutionary France during the Terror, there was no significant destruction of their own cultural heritage, as this was an political revolution, not a religious one. During, and in aftermath of Russian Revolution there was great bloodshed, but very little damage done that was not as a consequence of fighting. The great medieval churches and monasteries were generaly left undamaged. It was the new ones that were destroyed, like Christ the Saviour in Moscow, only about 50 years old at time of destruction. So, you see that political revolutions, at least in Europe, generally leave buildings and other artifacts alone, but religious revolutions, because they do the "will of god" see it as an article of faith to destroy the old. You may dispute my analysis (word of the week on this forum?), but I know that generaly, history proves me correct. Religion is from our irational side, politics from the rational. Both have a tendency to kill on industrial scale, but I believe the religious is more dangerous to culture and the past. The revolution in Egypt began as a political one, it has now been hijacked by the religious. A kalaidescope has been shaken and we wait to see what pattern will emerge, perhaps after a counter - counter revolution.......

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 05:39 PM

View PostAtentutankh-pasheri, on 05 March 2013 - 04:08 PM, said:

Normally, the desire for stabilty and abilty to aquire money overcomes any religious zealotry. But we can see that much damage can be done before the religious hysterics are put back in their box. Examples are the ikonoclasts in Constantinople, the mania for destruction during the reformation in Northern Europe and it's continuation well into the 17th century. This, to me, seems to be a specificaly religious phenomena. For instance, while there was a great deal of bloodshed in revolutionary France during the Terror, there was no significant destruction of their own cultural heritage, as this was an political revolution, not a religious one. During, and in aftermath of Russian Revolution there was great bloodshed, but very little damage done that was not as a consequence of fighting. The great medieval churches and monasteries were generaly left undamaged. It was the new ones that were destroyed, like Christ the Saviour in Moscow, only about 50 years old at time of destruction. So, you see that political revolutions, at least in Europe, generally leave buildings and other artifacts alone, but religious revolutions, because they do the "will of god" see it as an article of faith to destroy the old. You may dispute my analysis (word of the week on this forum?), but I know that generaly, history proves me correct. Religion is from our irational side, politics from the rational. Both have a tendency to kill on industrial scale, but I believe the religious is more dangerous to culture and the past. The revolution in Egypt began as a political one, it has now been hijacked by the religious. A kalaidescope has been shaken and we wait to see what pattern will emerge, perhaps after a counter - counter revolution.......

I'm in even closer agreement now.

But I don't want anyone to think I'm passing judgement on any specific religion or on religion
in general. I define "religion" very broadly and see even merchantilism and greed coming to have
aspects of religion. It is a religion founded on the concept that there is no need to create wealth
through production or improving the lot of man but that it is well and good to acquire wealth through
destruction of economies and man.  Science has become the world's leading religion and offers
nothing as people pray at the altar of technology.  Any overriding belief can become a religion based
on the very definition of religion and most religions have a destructive side.  Anything I say about
Egypt can be taken as a condemnation or expression of distrust of the leading religion and I doubt
that it is necessarily destructive.  It's unwise to burn bridges behind you but more unwise to burn
them before they are even crossed.  Essentially, I just want what is best for all Egyptians.  What's
best for all Egyptians will probably be best for the world and the future.

It would be great to see an Egypt where everyone is accepted and each person recieves fair wages
for his best efforts; a place where all are allowed to contribute his best without regard to accidents
of birth or things beyond his control.  A place where all are free to express themselves without fear
of reprisal.  But no country has even come close to achieving such goals.  We waste human effort
and human lives as some grow wealthy through greed and destruction.  Some are born to lead and
some to subsist.  It's unfair to hold Egyptians to some standard to which we  fall far short.

I must align myself with those seeking these goals no matter what name they take.  But, it's important
as an outsider to remain outside while those on the inside have not yet established anything perma-
nent. As I said before, I hope it works out for the best. I hope it's something good for Egypt.

Men fear the pyramid, time fears man.

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 09:46 PM

I wouldn't sell or or rent it to no other country or international firm no matter what.dude those are your most valuable and precious pieces of historical artifacts and monuments.I love those pyramids I know they are rich in history and connect Egypt to its past roots and etc.I say don't do it.do you really trust some other country or international firm with them???


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Posted 05 March 2013 - 11:00 PM

Welcome to Mummy Land! The world's sandiest tourist attraction!


As a special offer:


With each visit to Mummy Land, you get a free mummy and a pyramid piece. So you can be the envy of your friends and show everyone you've been here!


[Disclamier: Not all mummies are guaranteed to be fresh and may give off a stench, crumble to pieces, be infested with bugs, or worse, come alive and kill you. We will not be held responsible or liable for cursed mummies, since we don't know which ones are cursed. Take one at your on risk!]

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 03:39 PM

View PostPurifier, on 05 March 2013 - 11:00 PM, said:

[Disclamier: Not all mummies are guaranteed to be fresh and may give off a stench, crumble to pieces, be infested with bugs, or worse, come alive and kill you. We will not be held responsible or liable for cursed mummies, since we don't know which ones are cursed. Take one at your on risk!]
Absolutely, and I am cursed by the way, and have bugs in my empty head, so don't buy me. Perhaps buy one of my sisters, or if you like, perhaps my brother. Hmm, well, anyway, he is very badly accursed. Oh, so you'll take him eh, well, no pounds, only $. Thank you, have a nice day, if you live to see nightfall......

Edited by Atentutankh-pasheri, 07 March 2013 - 03:42 PM.


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Posted 07 March 2013 - 04:05 PM

View PostAtentutankh-pasheri, on 07 March 2013 - 03:39 PM, said:

Absolutely, and I am cursed by the way, and have bugs in my empty head, so don't buy me. Perhaps buy one of my sisters, or if you like, perhaps my brother. Hmm, well, anyway, he is very badly accursed. Oh, so you'll take him eh, well, no pounds, only $. Thank you, have a nice day, if you live to see nightfall......

two hunnred bucks for every tourist you bring me, brains intact, heheheheheh

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 08:39 PM

View Postthird_eye, on 07 March 2013 - 04:05 PM, said:

two hunnred bucks for every tourist you bring me, brains intact, heheheheheh
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Posted 07 March 2013 - 08:57 PM

You could always pay the lease and rent it out night by night to wannabe Aleister Crowleys and get a night in the stone sarcophagus...might make a lot of cash!

Just kidding!

All things considered, prob not a great idea...BUT...I would rather see them lease it to a research team than let the religious zealots destroy them.  If the incoming rent would be a cause to protect them...so be it.

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 09:02 PM

I already see it lights .... in full neon glory ..... I'll blow the dang thing myself if it comes to that .... :unsure2:

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 09:31 PM

View PostPurifier, on 05 March 2013 - 11:00 PM, said:

Welcome to Mummy Land! The world's sandiest tourist attraction!


As a special offer:


With each visit to Mummy Land, you get a free mummy and a pyramid piece. So you can be the envy of your friends and show everyone you've been here!


[Disclamier: Not all mummies are guaranteed to be fresh and may give off a stench, crumble to pieces, be infested with bugs, or worse, come alive and kill you. We will not be held responsible or liable for cursed mummies, since we don't know which ones are cursed. Take one at your on risk!]

View PostPurifier, on 05 March 2013 - 11:00 PM, said:

Welcome to Mummy Land! The world's sandiest tourist attraction!


As a special offer:


With each visit to Mummy Land, you get a free mummy and a pyramid piece. So you can be the envy of your friends and show everyone you've been here!


[Disclamier: Not all mummies are guaranteed to be fresh and may give off a stench, crumble to pieces, be infested with bugs, or worse, come alive and kill you. We will not be held responsible or liable for cursed mummies, since we don't know which ones are cursed. Take one at your on risk!]

I think it would make a great water park. :whistle:

A covered walkway from the valley to the pyramid can keep more serious visitors
from seeing the dessicration.  Meanwhile on the outside everyone can beat the summer
heat in their swimsuits.  The air shafts could be used to pump water out and the whole
pyramid would be a fountain.

It might catch on and a lot of the plumbing is already in place.  ;)

I would have one heck of a gift shop.  Mummies and daddies would come from far and wide.

Men fear the pyramid, time fears man.

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 03:36 AM

View Postshrooma, on 04 March 2013 - 04:27 PM, said:

(i was just about to say 'cue angry statement by cladking', but you bet me to it!!)
don't you ever sleep clad?!
maybe a test for vampirism would be in order....
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Leeds, you joined 14th feb 2013, your averaging roughly 500 posts  a month. Clad~ has 6000 in 6 years or so, which is only  85 posts a month. :hmm:

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 04:01 AM

Nik Turner (i'll be surprised if anyone reading this knows who he is), recorded "sphynx" in the kings chamber in 1993 - the acoustics are meant to be unworldly...presumably he had permission, no doubt there was a liberal amount of baksheesh involved.

Edited by bom shankra, 08 March 2013 - 04:05 AM.

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 11:45 AM

are we getting audited for UM taxes ?

are humor incentives deductible ?

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