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#46    thewonderman

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 11:23 PM

View PostDingoLingo, on 01 March 2013 - 10:44 PM, said:

yes.. but every single one of them mentions either  alien or space craft.. hence.. fake.. easily done these days with the tech we have.. like the ufo videos etc.. do yourself a favor and educate yourself by looking up faking hoaxer .. he's a pom as well but quite good at what he does..

LOL.. you really dont follow many posts on here do you..

no.. I am not one of these closed mind thinkers that say we are the only life .. there is other life out there.. it just not has come here..

and cheers.. I really didnt need to have your permission to take the mickey out of you.. us aussies have been doing that to you poms for over 200 years :D

Great. haven't got time for you.

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 11:25 PM

View Postthewonderman, on 01 March 2013 - 11:18 PM, said:

It wasn't a public radio, the person picked up the frequency.

And you know this, uh, how?

I suspect you're just making it up out of your imagination.


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Posted 02 March 2013 - 12:18 AM

View Postthewonderman, on 01 March 2013 - 11:23 PM, said:

Great. haven't got time for you.

Do you have time to tell us how you know that this transmission was on NASAs original tape, and not just on Donald Ratsches?

I still await the compelling Exhibit A.

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Posted 02 March 2013 - 01:32 AM

View Postthewonderman, on 01 March 2013 - 11:23 PM, said:

Great. haven't got time for you.

No worries strawman..

basically your getting extremely valid reason and explanations but hey.. while they disagree with what your saying.. your not going to like it..

tell ya what.. go out buy yourself a shortwave reciever.. if I remember rightly the old yaesu radio's will pick up radio chatter with just a bit of tweaking.. and you can spend your days listening to it.. though small bit of advice.. get a skywatch program that shows the paths of the ISS and other manned craft while up there.. that way you wont get fooled like this again :D


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Posted 02 March 2013 - 01:59 AM

'thewonderman', I'm going to make this slow and tedious and comprehensive, so that perhaps you might take the time in future to CHECK your information.  So before I provide sources to your HOAX...  let's start with your thread title:

NASA Alien Encounter Confirmed

That was YOUR claim, so YOU START.  You will now give the NASA link that states that.  Go ahead, take your time...
Then we'll talk about what 'confirmed' means, shall we?

In regard to your latest claim, would you like to withdraw your statement that 'the person picked up the frequency' NOW or will you wait until I (or others) tell the full story?  The person (Ratsch) did NOT pick up the NASA broadcast frequency - it was an amateur re-transmission on a common ham frequency - in other words, dead easy to hoax.  Funny how you (or is it your source) got that so horribly wrong, when it was spelt out right from the start..  Google is your friend.  Or enemy in this case.

And do keep LOLing (most folks would have checked before laughing..)

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Posted 02 March 2013 - 02:51 AM

I always thought anything on youtube concerning Aliens was hoaxed or made up or doctored in some way,food for the wishful thinkers.

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Posted 02 March 2013 - 02:46 PM

View Postshaddow134, on 02 March 2013 - 02:51 AM, said:

I always thought anything on youtube concerning Aliens was hoaxed or made up or doctored in some way,food for the wishful thinkers.

Most of it is. That is why its important to check and double check the information,... from a skeptical point of view that is.

I still await the compelling Exhibit A.

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Posted 02 March 2013 - 03:20 PM

View Postthewonderman, on 01 March 2013 - 11:23 AM, said:

Its pretty clear from the audio tape that the austronaut says ' We Still have the Alien Spacecraft Under Felon'
VFR not Felon


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Posted 02 March 2013 - 07:13 PM

View Postthewonderman, on 01 March 2013 - 11:18 PM, said:

It wasn't a public radio, the person picked up the frequency.

Yeah, exactly, publicly available. Obviously it was not on your normal FM radio frequencies, but if they broadcast this on a frequency readily available to any amateur radio enthusiast without encrypting it then yes, they were broadcasting it publicly for anyone who has a ham radio to pick up.


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Posted 02 March 2013 - 11:34 PM

Sighs wearily.  The transmission in question was NOT, I repeat NOT coming directly from the Shuttle.

It was a *claimed* RE-broadcast of what was supposedly captured directly from the Shuttle.  David Ratsch, who was the one who heard the *claimed* RE-broadcast, *thought* it was genuinely from the shuttle.  Checks of the audio were inconclusive - NASA at NO TIME verifed this transmission - contrary to the OP's misinformation.  Indeed, perusal of the 'real' original tapes revealed that no such conversation took place.

Yes, NASA could just SAY that and doctor the tapes, but then it begs the question - given that people with the required equipment aimed at the shuttle WERE able to intercept the transmissions, why didn't someone who was doing that (ie NOT David Ratsch) corroborate this transmission?  The answer is simple - it was someone near Ratsch with a ham radio playing a prank, and Ratsch was the only one who picked up the hoaxed transmission.

What seals the deal is that Ratsch picked up a second almost identical transmission during another Shuttle mission - SAME voice.  Yet the astronauts on the Shuttle that time were different!  Ratsch himself is clearly convinced he was taken in by a hoax - refer the email I posted earlier.

It would take an incredibly dedicated believer with tunnel-vision and a complete inability (or lack of desire) to research this properly, to not see that this is a complete and utter HOAX.

All my posts about Apollo are dedicated to the memory of MID - who knew, lived and was an integral part of, Apollo.

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 08:25 PM

DAMN HOAXERS !!

COME WITH ME. OVERWHELMING POWER AND MADNESS AWAIT

THAT IS NOT DEAD WHICH CAN ETERNAL LIE AND WITH STRANGE AEONS EVEN DEATH MAY DIE

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 08:51 PM

View Postshaddow134, on 02 March 2013 - 02:51 AM, said:

I always thought anything on youtube concerning Aliens was hoaxed or made up or doctored in some way,food for the wishful thinkers.
Except Ancient Astronauts, obviously.

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 12:15 AM

View Postthewonderman, on 01 March 2013 - 11:23 PM, said:

Great. haven't got time for you.

Perhaps you could find the time to track down the original NASA release that says the transmission was a joke by an astronaut.

This is STS-29 right? I suspect so because Wikipedia says:

STS-29 was a NASA Space Shuttle mission, during which Space Shuttle Discovery inserted a Tracking and Data Relay Satellite (TDRS) into Earth's orbit. It was the third shuttle mission following the Challenger disaster of 1986, and launched from Kennedy Space Center, Florida, on 13 March 1989.

The flight crew consisted of:


Commander Michael L. Coats
Second spaceflight Pilot John E. Blaha
First spaceflight Mission Specialist 1 Robert C. Springer
First spaceflight Mission Specialist 2 James F. Buchli
Third spaceflight Mission Specialist 3 James P. Bagian
First spaceflight


Who's voice is that supposed to be?




As Chrlz pointed out already, Donald Ratsch, the man who "broke the story" also followed up his spectacular story with the admission that he himself, thinks this is a hoax.


sts-29  march 1989
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 18:51:37 -0800
From: sts48@ix.netcom.com (Donald Ratsch)
Subject: Re: NASA WAV file
To: bdzeiler@students.wisc.edu (Brian Zeiler)


Brian, yes I have the full story on that. The details was carried on
the July 1989 issue of the MUFON Journal. Briefly I recorded some of
the radio broadcast via my audio scanner from the space shuttle
Discovery through WA3NAN, the club station of the Goddard Amateur Radio
Club at Greenbelt, Md, transmitting on 147.450 MHZ. It is a
retransmission from the NASA Select original. I heard what I thought
was one of the male astronauts saying, "Houston, Discovery, we still
have the alien spacecraft under observance". Well I was pretty excited
and got in touch with Walt Andrus of MUFON and Vince Dipietro (Mars
Face Fame) who is employed at Goddard Space Flight Center who I later
handed over the tape to have a voice print analysis performed to
compare the target voice to the astronauts' voices that were aboard
during that mission. The result of the analysis showed that a few
positive hits on Astronaut Bagian (the physician on board) but not
enough hits to say he was the one who said the target words. So the
results were inconclusive. Later a check showed there was no target
voice on the original NASA Select audio.

About a year after that, I was again monitoring the audio from another
NASA mission via my scanner and I heard that voice again, saying something
similar to the target voice a year earlier.  However on this mission, all the
astronauts were different compared to the other one. This led me to conclude
that unfortunately, the target voice was a hoax probably from an amateur
radio operator.
Jim Oberg emailed me some time ago and asked me about
that case and I told him what I just told you.

..

Bolding mine. If the claimant had given up on the claim, what is there to chase down now?
LINK
Jim is already onto this one as we can seem heck Jim, seeing you all over the telly of late :D That is awesome.

Edited by psyche101, 04 March 2013 - 12:20 AM.

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 12:47 AM

He is saying they have "The alien spacecraft under repelence".........

Edited by MonkeysWorth, 04 March 2013 - 01:08 AM.


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Posted 04 March 2013 - 09:07 AM

This is why I love this place,... Shining the light of science and reason on to the wacky shadows of ignorance. :tu:

I still await the compelling Exhibit A.

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