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#7351    Otto von Pickelhaube

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 08:34 PM

View Postzoser, on 22 February 2013 - 06:49 PM, said:

Where do we see megalithic blocks of granite fitted together with high precision in that picture?

What I see is highly ornate and artistic.


yes, so a sight more impressive than a bodged wall.

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 08:35 PM

View Postzoser, on 22 February 2013 - 08:28 PM, said:

Just another piece of evidence that fits the hypothesis.

That what you are seeing is in part natural formations.

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One would think if they had taken the trouble to cut the stone they would have shaped it flat.  They were more than capable of doing that.

Totally incorrect. You have never cut a single stone in your life. I've built retaining walls out of dense basalt. Don't tell me what they were capable of. If it stone served its function, there was no need to cut it unless their boss was willing to pay for the extra labor to make it more attractive.


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Posted 22 February 2013 - 08:37 PM

View PostTheSearcher, on 22 February 2013 - 08:28 PM, said:

Worst part is, that he knows full well what is what, the origin of his images proves as much. Both his images come from a wikipedia article about dry stone walls. You'll find both images there, amongst others.  Which he doesn't show of course.

No precedent in classic architecture? Really? Are you absolutely sure? Weeeeel..........

I give you, constructed without any advanced tools, the roman temple at Baalbek. Constructed quite some time before anything similar in south America.



Are you seriously claiming that the Baalbek stones were lifted by crude hauling?  Pull the other one mate.

You must be absolutely joking.

Architects and construction engineers, however, not having any preconceived ideas of ancient history to uphold, will frankly state that there are no known lifting technologies even in current times that could raise and position the Baalbek stones given the amount of working space. The massive stones of the Grand Terrace of Baalbek are simply beyond the engineering abilities of any recognized ancient or contemporary builders.

There are several other matters about the Baalbek stones that further confound archaeologists and conventional theories of prehistoric civilization. There are no legends or folk tales from Roman times that link the Romans with the mammoth stones. There are absolutely no records in any Roman or other literary sources concerning the construction methods or the dates and names of the benefactors, designers, architects, engineers and builders of the Grand Terrace. The megalithic stones of the Trilithon bear no structural or ornamental resemblance to any of the Roman-era constructions above them, such as the previously described Temples of Jupiter, Bacchus or Venus. The limestone rocks of the Trilithon show extensive evidence of wind and sand erosion that is absent from the Roman temples, indicating that the megalithic construction dates from a far earlier age. ..........



http://www.alien-ufo...ion-stones.html

Let me put it another way.  If you think the Baalbek trilithons were the work of the Romans then prove it.  Evidence suggests otherwise.

Try again.

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 08:40 PM

View Postscowl, on 22 February 2013 - 08:31 PM, said:


You haven't found any yet. Vincent Lee demonstrated exactly how anyone can create stones with precise horizontal lines along with other simple techniques which you choose not to learn or understand.


So did Protzen.  So did Mark Lehner.  So did the Japanese.

All made high sounding claims even breaking sweat to try and prove their point.

None did.

Let me remind you:

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 08:40 PM

View Postzoser, on 22 February 2013 - 07:12 PM, said:

Look at the moulding marks on the bottom block.

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But zoser, look at how terrible this masonry is. The lines are uneven, the joints are crooked, and so on. I showed you a similar one and you told me that it was an example of the "crude" walls that were definitely not built by aliens.

Yet here you are saying that this particular crude wall was built by your alien friends.

Son, you need to get your opinions straight for five minutes.


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Posted 22 February 2013 - 08:41 PM

View Postzoser, on 22 February 2013 - 08:28 PM, said:

Just another piece of evidence that fits the hypothesis.

One would think if they had taken the trouble to cut the stone they would have shaped it flat.  They were more than capable of doing that.

Yet we see bulging out of stone along with sinking in under weight.

Highly significant and cannot be discarded as archaeologists tend to habitually do.
But yet again, if this was the ancient Aliens' construction technique, then it wasn't a very good one, was it? If it resulted in the rocks going all soft so that they went out of shape if weight was put on top of them, that was a pretty useless method of construction really wasn't it. What is the point of building a Wall with squishy rocks?

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 08:44 PM

View Postscowl, on 22 February 2013 - 08:40 PM, said:

But zoser, look at how terrible this masonry is. The lines are uneven, the joints are crooked, and so on. I showed you a similar one and you told me that it was an example of the "crude" walls that were definitely not built by aliens.

Yet here you are saying that this particular crude wall was built by your alien friends.

Son, you need to get your opinions straight for five minutes.

Precision fitting.  Not bettered since.  Notwithstanding modern machine tools.

Opinion will not do.  It's a fact

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 08:45 PM

View PostLord Vetinari, on 22 February 2013 - 08:41 PM, said:

But yet again, if this was the ancient Aliens' construction technique, then it wasn't a very good one, was it? If it resulted in the rocks going all soft so that they went out of shape if weight was put on top of them, that was a pretty useless method of construction really wasn't it. What is the point of building a Wall with squishy rocks?

They wanted precision fit.  Not precision flat external surfaces.   You ask a good question; however the mystery remains or only deepens.

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 08:46 PM

View Postzoser, on 22 February 2013 - 07:12 PM, said:

Look at the moulding marks on the bottom block.

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Must be true, then,.

Note the molding marks on the unfinished obelisk at Aswan:

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And:

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Highly logistical.

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 08:46 PM

View Postzoser, on 22 February 2013 - 08:37 PM, said:

Are you seriously claiming that the Baalbek stones were lifted by crude hauling?  


http://www.alien-ufo...ion-stones.html



How many times do I have to make you look stupid by criticizing your sources? Look at the url above where you glean info from, does alien-ufo suggest a serious source?

NO!

But this one does :tu:

The quarry was slightly higher up[17][18] than the temple itself so no lifting was required to move the stones the 800 meters (2,600 ft) to the temple. In 1977, Jean-Pierre Adam made a brief study suggesting the large blocks could have been moved on rollers with machines using capstans and pulley blocks, a process which he theorised could use 512 workers to move a 557 tonne block (approximately 243 tonnes lighter than the trilithon blocks). Adam did not approach the problem of archaeological dating, suggesting that the maritime technology that may have moved the larger stones came from a pre-Roman era, concluding "Knowing that the Egyptians knew about the pulley, it is not unreasonable to attribute the construction to a people of sailors, such as the Phoenicians or Minoans".


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Baalbek,  is a town in the Beqaa Valley of Lebanon situated east of the Litani River. It is famous for its exquisitely detailed yet monumentally scaled temple ruins of the Roman period, when Baalbek, then known as Heliopolis (Greek: Ἡλιούπολις), was one of the largest sanctuaries in the empire. It is Lebanon's greatest Roman treasure, and it can be counted among the wonders of the ancient world, containing some of the largest and best preserved Roman ruins.

Edited by seeder, 22 February 2013 - 09:02 PM.

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 08:47 PM

View Postzoser, on 22 February 2013 - 08:40 PM, said:

So did Protzen.  So did Mark Lehner.  So did the Japanese.

All made high sounding claims even breaking sweat to try and prove their point.

None did.

Newsflash! Vincent Lee did right in front of cameras for a History Channel documentary a couple of years ago. For someone like me who has attempted more than one masonry project, it was a completely convincing demonstration and showed what a determined investigator can do.

Instead of dismissing him, why don't you read what he did? Then you won't have to believe in pretend aliens using pretend technology to build crude structures that we humans surpassed centuries ago.


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Posted 22 February 2013 - 08:52 PM

View Postzoser, on 22 February 2013 - 08:44 PM, said:

Precision fitting.  Not bettered since.

Crude masonry. Poorly fit stones. Uneven lines. This is the best that alien technology can do? Skilled masons have built better and much more stable walls. Funny that you like this one but dismiss the one I pointed out.

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Notwithstanding modern machine tools.

Poor advanced aliens came all this way and forgot their tool box!


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Posted 22 February 2013 - 08:55 PM

View Postzoser, on 22 February 2013 - 08:44 PM, said:

Precision fitting.  Not bettered since.  Notwithstanding modern machine tools.

Opinion will not do.  It's a fact

A Fact eh? Only for Noddy, in Toyland

The only fact is, you're wrong on EVERY count.

Now be a good lad an answer Abes question, if you can and dont say you did because you didnt. And you cant!

If this were a brothel you'd be in serious debt for the amount of lashings you like to take.

Edited by seeder, 22 February 2013 - 08:56 PM.

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 08:56 PM

View Postzoser, on 22 February 2013 - 08:37 PM, said:

Are you seriously claiming that the Baalbek stones were lifted by crude hauling?  Pull the other one mate.

You must be absolutely joking.
-snip- ( edit : considering the origin of that, I reject it's validity, you'll have to do better than that. See? I'm using your methods :whistle: )

Let me put it another way.  If you think the Baalbek trilithons were the work of the Romans then prove it.  Evidence suggests otherwise.

Try again.

I'm still having to see a method proposed by yourself to the contrary, Soft Stone Boy. Right now nothing you have said or shown can explain it to anybodies saftisfaction.

Now, to the issue at hand, since the quarry they originated from was situated higher, no lifting was needed. Evidence suggest you are plainly wrong. Try again.

Edit : And damned, but I just saw that Seeder beat me to the explanation and quite eloquently so.

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 08:58 PM

View PostHarte, on 22 February 2013 - 08:46 PM, said:

Note the molding marks on the unfinished obelisk at Aswan:

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And:

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Highly logistical.

Obviously aliens softened the rock for the guy. You can't remove material off of a rock without using alien rock-softening technology.