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[Eldorado]

On second thoughts.... Win 8 is probably the worst and most annoying I've ever used bar SUSE.  (Using a desktop) Far slower than XP with no Start button on the taskbar; you need to jump back and forth to open a program, ffs..   (I've said much about the same about every new OS I've tried... lol)

Edited by Eldorado, 17 November 2012 - 09:25 PM.

[bLu3 de 3n3rgy]

Merc14, on 16 November 2012 - 01:15 PM, said:

Concur 100% om the old folks giving up if faced with the new GUI.  I have been telling a lot of them that a tablet may be more appropriate for what they do.  My biggest problem is the older business customers running XP on really old machines that suddenly die.  SInce you can't buy XP retail any longer they want me to get it off ebay and install on new computers just so they don't have to change.

Older people do not like change. I'm still trying to convert my Father to a touch phone, but with his temper it would go flying thru the window as the android did. The only one he's comfortable with is the Nokia pre smart phone age, from the early 2000's but can't buy it anymore. What he has got on well with is a tablet size notebook with windows 7 - not a peep or tantrum in years. So i certify windows 7 as old proof lmao.

Edited by bLu3 de 3n3rgy, 17 November 2012 - 10:29 PM.

[questionmark]

bLu3 de 3n3rgy, on 17 November 2012 - 10:26 PM, said:

Older people do not like change. I'm still trying to convert my Father to a touch phone, but with his temper it would go flying thru the window as the android did. The only one he's comfortable with is the Nokia pre smart phone age, from the early 2000's but can't buy it anymore. What he has got on well with is a tablet size notebook with windows 7 - not a peep or tantrum in years. So i certify windows 7 as old proof lmao.

I got my father a new laptop (his 2002 IBM thinkpad was really getting to be durn old) and next I knew is that I had to install him Windows XP (instead of Windows 7) on it 'cause he did not want to learn the "newfangled stuff". A certain backwards compatibility/mode should be on every new OS, else it will loose customers because they just will not upgrade. If they have to learn new tricks some might even change brands altogether.

Edited by questionmark, 18 November 2012 - 06:17 PM.

[Eldorado]

Am starting to come round after a couple of days.  Still annoyed that I don't appear to be in charge of my own computer though.

[WoIverine]

Eldorado, on 18 November 2012 - 11:05 PM, said:

Am starting to come round after a couple of days.  Still annoyed that I don't appear to be in charge of my own computer though.

Goodluck man, I just couldn't do it. I fail at Windows 8.

[Merc14]

questionmark, on 18 November 2012 - 06:08 PM, said:

I got my father a new laptop (his 2002 IBM thinkpad was really getting to be durn old) and next I knew is that I had to install him Windows XP (instead of Windows 7) on it 'cause he did not want to learn the "newfangled stuff". A certain backwards compatibility/mode should be on every new OS, else it will loose customers because they just will not upgrade. If they have to learn new tricks some might even change brands altogether.

That is brutal because 7 is so much nicer all the way around than XP but I have customers that adamantly refuse to change from XP.  Hard thing about going backwards to XP is finding the drivers for some of the new gear.

[Merc14]

Back after an involuntary vacation for reasons unknown but after almost three weeks with Windows 8 I can say that I am a fan of the stability, smoothness and speed of the OS as well as the ease of installation and lack of bugs.  Seriously, this is a nearly bug free release version.  Wow, never thought I'd see that.  On the other hand there are some absolutely ridiculous issues that are forced on the user just to make Windows 8 "common across all platforms".  This is a case of a really great OS crippled by a really bad management team with a stupid objective in mind.  Tablets and phones are not the same as laptops and desktops so stop trying to make them so MS.

That said, I am willing to put up with the stupid decisions made by MS because this really is a great piece of software.  Plus, I believe there are a few utilities coming on line that will turn the desktop GUI into a Windows 7 type interface.  I'll ccheck some out and report back but would appreciate any input from those who have tried them.

[Eldorado]

Aye.. I'm a fan now.  Roll on SP1 that will iron out the annoyances, I hope.

[ozman]

I am glad that a topic like this was started.  I'm going back to windows 7 because it is obvious this windows 8 was an OS that was created with tablet/touchscreen in mind, it is the result of Microsoft trying hard to compete with Apple because you can even see that windows 8 uses word "Apps" or "App" in place of "application" which it did before.  Most of the new laptops are becoming all touch screens which windows 8 greatly works with.

I got so pissed off when I couldn't find the start button and shut down button i felt like throwing my laptop at the wall.  You have to hold ctrl alt delete just to get the shut down/restart menu and their square/rectangled tiled start screen is useless and it doesn't even have a shut down option at the annoying metro start screen.  I think Microsoft will start releasing updates to take the annoyance away by reintroducing familiar things as shut down icon.

I can almost guarantee this OS will end up like windows Vista where many i.t. departments on many companies will refuse to upgrade to it and just stick with windows 7 or wait for a newer os than windows 8.

[Merc14]

ozman, on 01 December 2012 - 10:27 AM, said:

I am glad that a topic like this was started.  I'm going back to windows 7 because it is obvious this windows 8 was an OS that was created with tablet/touchscreen in mind, it is the result of Microsoft trying hard to compete with Apple because you can even see that windows 8 uses word "Apps" or "App" in place of "application" which it did before.  Most of the new laptops are becoming all touch screens which windows 8 greatly works with.

I got so pissed off when I couldn't find the start button and shut down button i felt like throwing my laptop at the wall.  You have to hold ctrl alt delete just to get the shut down/restart menu and their square/rectangled tiled start screen is useless and it doesn't even have a shut down option at the annoying metro start screen.  I think Microsoft will start releasing updates to take the annoyance away by reintroducing familiar things as shut down icon.

I can almost guarantee this OS will end up like windows Vista where many i.t. departments on many companies will refuse to upgrade to it and just stick with windows 7 or wait for a newer os than windows 8.

Shutdown is under settings on the charm bar.  Simply put your cursor in the right corner and select setting and there is you shut-down.  Also, you can try some add-ons to get back to windows 7 look whilw keeping 8 speed and stability.  http://lifehacker.com/5955755/how-to-fix-windows-8s-biggest-annoyances-and-make-it-more-like-windows-7

In less than a year MS will be rolling out Windows 9 and they will continue to this yearly release from now on to match the Google/Apple cycle.  Windows 9 will be free or very cheap to Win 8 users but full cost to new users $100+) and I am guessing will be 64 bit only.  If you've bought into windows 8 at $40 then it may be better to stick with it and stay on the upgrade trail.

[Ryu]

While Windows 8 sounds very intriguing I think MS is making a mistake by assuming everyone has a touchpad or tablet PC and that everyone wants their desktop to be the same.
If I want to use Photoshop, fore instance, I just want to open my start menu and go to it..from what it sounds like..having to remember key commands just to do something simple sounds more like MS revenge.
I don't know..we'll see.

Well..I don't and I am not sure I can remember so many key commands just to do something simple. Kind of reminds me of the very old versions of Windows..the pre-windows85 where you had junky icons, ugly white screen and applications that acted like cranky kids.

[Merc14]

Ryu, on 01 December 2012 - 09:36 PM, said:

While Windows 8 sounds very intriguing I think MS is making a mistake by assuming everyone has a touchpad or tablet PC and that everyone wants their desktop to be the same.
If I want to use Photoshop, fore instance, I just want to open my start menu and go to it..from what it sounds like..having to remember key commands just to do something simple sounds more like MS revenge.
I don't know..we'll see.

Well..I don't and I am not sure I can remember so many key commands just to do something simple. Kind of reminds me of the very old versions of Windows..the pre-windows85 where you had junky icons, ugly white screen and applications that acted like cranky kids.

It's not that bad but I shouldn't have to say that.  The start menus has moved to a desktop GUI, which is always accessible in the left hand corner.  Regardless, Photoshop will show up on the start screen but you can just make a shortcut on your desktop, as always and access from there. Let us know what makes iOS so much better though as I really want t know. It is a nice system, for sure but the ease of use meme escapes me.

[Eldorado]

Some free apps to help you customise Win 8 to your liking.
http://www.techradar...e-today-1075175

Some tips.
http://www.techradar...secrets-1028220

[Render]

Windows 8 Sales Well Below Projections, Plenty of Blame to Go Around


Uncertainty could turn Windows 8 into the next Vista

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[LEGIONS]

my friend just got an Hp envy with 8 installed at the factory seems smooth enough ,perhaps some issues with updating  and locking up ...my fix for that was osx lion for Imac,havent believed in mountain lion yet