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California doing stupid stuff again..........


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#1    Myles

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Posted 13 August 2013 - 02:26 PM

"Gov. Brown signs bill making California first state to allow transgender students to pick the restrooms they want to use, and the sports teams they want to play on, based on their gender identity."



I just don't understand how you could allow boys (physically) to play on girls sports teams.   It isn't fair for the typical girls to have to compete with boys.  Although that sounds chauvinistic, it really isn't my intention.




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Posted 13 August 2013 - 02:32 PM

It's an interesting law.  I'm looking forward to reading about its implementation and the various challenges that might be put forward against it.


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Posted 13 August 2013 - 02:39 PM

I can see how this will go terribly wrong in so many ways...I can't even begin to list them.

Yep....you titled the thread perfectly.  Stupid stuff.

Why not just dig the California debt hole a little deeper and put in a set of restrooms in each school with a big "?" on the door...

Edited by Jeremiah65, 13 August 2013 - 02:40 PM.

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Posted 13 August 2013 - 02:44 PM

View PostJeremiah65, on 13 August 2013 - 02:39 PM, said:



Why not just dig the California debt hole a little deeper and put in a set of restrooms in each school with a big "?" on the door...
You know, I would be able to make (at least) some sense to that.


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Posted 13 August 2013 - 03:14 PM

It's obviously time to do away with gender entirely.  From now on the use of masculine or feminine nouns will make you guilty of being prejudice, and vulnerable the penalties that entails.  Unless someone demands to be identified as a given gender, in which case failure to do so will result in you being guilty of being prejudice, and vulnerable the penalties that entails.


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Posted 13 August 2013 - 03:28 PM

Wrestling matches could very quickly turn into very, very interesting viewing!


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Posted 13 August 2013 - 03:30 PM

View PostEldorado, on 13 August 2013 - 03:28 PM, said:

Wrestling matches could very quickly turn into very, very interesting viewing!

Men! LOL... :)


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Posted 13 August 2013 - 05:20 PM

Men and women differ in countless ways, many of which they aren't even conscious of. Here are just a few of those differences:
  • A woman has greater constitutional vitality, perhaps because of her unique chromosomal pattern. Normally, she outlives a man by three or four years in the U.S. Females simply have a stronger hold on life than males, even in the uterus. More than 140 male babies are conceived for every 100 females; by the time birth occurs, the ratio is 105 to 100, with the rest of the males dying in spontaneous abortions.1
  • Men have a higher incidence of death from almost every disease except three: benign tumors, disorders related to female reproduction, and breast cancer.2
  • Men have a higher rate of basal metabolism than women.3
  • The sexes differ in skeletal structure, women having a shorter head, broader face, less protruding chin, shorter legs, and longer trunk. The first finger of a woman's hand is usually longer than the third; with men the reverse is true. Boys' teeth last longer than do those of girls.4
  • Women have a larger stomach, kidneys, liver, and appendix, and smaller lungs than men.5
  • Women have three very important physiological functions totally absent in men--menstruation, pregnancy, and lactation. Each of these mechanisms influences behavior and feelings significantly. Female hormonal patterns are more complex and varied. The glands work differently in the two sexes. For example, a woman's thyroid is larger and more active; it enlarges during menstruation and pregnancy, which makes her more prone to goiter, provides resistance to cold, and is associated with the smooth skin, relatively hairless body, and the thin layer of subcutaneous fat that are important elements in the concept of personal beauty. Women are also more responsive emotionally, laughing and crying more readily.6
  • Women's blood contains more water (20 percent fewer red cells). Since red cells supply oxygen to the body, she tires more easily and is more prone to faint. Her constitutional viability is therefore strictly a long-range matter. When the working day in British factories, under wartime conditions, was increased from ten to twelve hours, accidents among women increased 150 percent; the rate of accidents among men did not increase significantly.7
  • Men are 50 percent stronger than women in brute strength.8
  • Women's hearts beat more rapidly than those of men (80 versus 72 beats per minute). Their blood pressure (ten points lower than men) varies more from minute to minute, but they have much less tendency to high blood pressure--at least until after menopause.9
  • Female lung capacity is about 30 percent less than in males.10
  • Women can withstand high temperatures better than men because their metabolism slows down less.11
  • Men and women differ in every cell of their bodies because they carry a differing chromosomal pattern. The implications of those genetic components range from obvious to extremely subtle. For example, when researchers visited high school and college campuses to study behavior of the sexes, they observed that males and females even transported their books in different ways. The young men tended to carry them at their sides with their arms looped over the top. Women and girls, by contrast, usually cradled their books at their breasts, in much the same way they would a baby.12
There are many reasons boys and girls ahould not be allowed to play on each others sports teams.  It is not fair to the rest of the gender.


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Posted 13 August 2013 - 05:53 PM

lol, i know that females usually don't care much about gays in their b-rooms\or dressing rooms, they usually don't even care gays seeing them naked. since they don't look at them as males,  and as a guy i don't really care if a lesbian uses mans bathroom.

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Posted 13 August 2013 - 06:03 PM

From Wikipedia

"Transgender is the state of one's gender identity (self-identification as woman, man, neither or both) not matching one's assigned sex (identification by others as male, female or intersex based on physical/genetic sex)."

Please explain to me how exactly someone can proclaim to be neither male NOR female??  I've never seen a box for "Other"????

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Posted 13 August 2013 - 06:06 PM

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California doing stupid stuff again..........

Eh.  So, what else is new?


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Posted 13 August 2013 - 06:19 PM

There go most of the girls sports records.

Edited by Myles, 13 August 2013 - 06:19 PM.


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Posted 13 August 2013 - 06:23 PM

View PostMacsMom, on 13 August 2013 - 06:03 PM, said:

From Wikipedia

"Transgender is the state of one's gender identity (self-identification as woman, man, neither or both) not matching one's assigned sex (identification by others as male, female or intersex based on physical/genetic sex)."

Please explain to me how exactly someone can proclaim to be neither male NOR female??  I've never seen a box for "Other"????
Well, when you don't feel right, you don't feel right. I think of myself as neither, but I act more like a stareotypical male and have a bit more of an attachment to that than I do the female, so I go with male for other people's sake.

As for the overall topic: If you are transgender, you should be able to use the restroom that you feel more comfortable in. Besides, segregated restrooms are a relatively new thing anyway.

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Posted 13 August 2013 - 06:27 PM

Really?  But your avatar clearly has you as a guy.  And I'm guessing you probably check the "male" box when necessary.

I can understand gender "confusion" and I support a person's right to identify with whichever gender they feel is most appropriate.  I just didn't know there was a "neither" option.

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Posted 13 August 2013 - 06:31 PM

Oh, and Ratte, I've been wanting to ask you........why are Jade's boobs crooked in your avatar? :blush: :P

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