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#3166    bmk1245

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 06:59 PM

View Postsynchronomy, on 06 October 2012 - 06:50 PM, said:

Your posts provide nothing but contradiction [...]
Contradictions? Please point out.

View Postsynchronomy, on 06 October 2012 - 06:50 PM, said:

[...] and ridicule of very interesting viewpoints.  You are debating this issue in a manner typical of an individual who has very limited knowledge of the subject at hand.
Ok then, bring your knowledge here: can you explain every skin return in Stephenville's case?  Sure you can...

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 07:01 PM

View Postbmk1245, on 06 October 2012 - 06:40 PM, said:

You may know ABC, but thats it, nothing more.
Once again, check data.

What "data" do you want me to check?  You never post anything to check.


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Posted 06 October 2012 - 07:04 PM

View PostTheMacGuffin, on 06 October 2012 - 07:01 PM, said:

What "data" do you want me to check?  You never post anything to check.
Radar data from Stephenville case. I posted link already.

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 07:23 PM

View Postbmk1245, on 06 October 2012 - 07:04 PM, said:

Radar data from Stephenville case. I posted link already.

I have checked it many times.  One researcher even made a video of the radar data that showed military planes conducting maneuvers in the area before the UFO showed up, both visually and on radar.  Both visual and radar reports confirm the existence of this large UFO, which in no way, shape or form was a temperature inversion.  It could not have been, although since it had no transponders they could not identify it as one of theirs.





MUFON investigator Robert Powell, who analyzed the original radar data from FOIA records with Glen Schulze, notes the planes that cross the UFO’s path as it nears Crawford are likely at high altitudes of maybe 30,000 feet and says they’re non-military craft. Which raises the question (again): Where the hell is security when a bogey without a transponder sets a head-on course for restricted air space over the former Western White House? Recent history indicates the law doesn’t necessarily wait ‘til an intruder violates the no-fly zone to pounce.


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Posted 06 October 2012 - 07:26 PM

In that video, the blue and green objects are our own planes that have activated their transponders, while the white objects have not, and the unknowns are among them.  None of this has anything to do with the weather, temperature inversions, defective radar or anything like that, since these are real objects being tracked on radar, as anyone who has studied this case even superficially would realize.


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Posted 06 October 2012 - 07:35 PM

View Postsynchronomy, on 06 October 2012 - 06:35 PM, said:

I just watched this one.  Twice actually.  The second time through was to study body language, which I have researched over the years.
Seems to me this couple are telling the truth.  Either these events actually happened to them, or they wholeheartedly believe they happened.
It would be unlikely that they both experienced a psychotic episode resulting in the same memory.
I thought it odd that the woman was relating 90% of events while the guy sat silent.
A "boiler suit" with a polo neck sweater is very common attire with British military aviators and groundcrews.  However she did mention the full beard which would contradict that source for the events.  Anyway, there's no reason that ET's wouldn't be wearing similar attire.

My thoughts on this one are that the couple are telling the truth.  If it was a fabrication, it's unlikely she would have that deadpan expression with her eyes locked on the person she was speaking to.

I'm putting this one in my "high probability of legit file"

My personal BS meter didn't even register.

Nice bit of adding up and I agree with you with the exception of:

Anyway, there's no reason that ET's wouldn't be wearing similar attire.

My answer would be are we really in a position to know?  Don't forget that Jesse Roestenburg related a strikingly similar observation.

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 07:37 PM

View Postbmk1245, on 06 October 2012 - 06:35 PM, said:

Ok, just watched that Winchester  (efking silly me, again). For f** sakes, folks hit the curb and their pants painted brown... In shock condition anything can come out. Hire any prof in interrogation, and their story would blow up as  party balloon... Pffft....

Now I have to find real woodoo masterz...

Edit: spelling

Oh ye of little imagination Mr B!

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 07:39 PM

View Postzoser, on 06 October 2012 - 07:37 PM, said:

Oh ye of little imagination Mr B!

Imagination huh?

So, it is imagination that forms these " facts ". I am glad we agree :)

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 07:45 PM

View PostSakari, on 06 October 2012 - 07:39 PM, said:

Imagination huh?

So, it is imagination that forms these " facts ". I am glad we agree :)

In the sense of the only thing capable of interfering with a car must have conventional explanations.

Any one who knows anything about UFO cases well knows that thousands of people have reported that they interfere with engines.  This is nothing new.

If as we suspect they emit powerful electromagnetic energy then how can they not interfere with engines?

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 07:49 PM

View Postzoser, on 06 October 2012 - 07:35 PM, said:

Nice bit of adding up and I agree with you with the exception of:

Anyway, there's no reason that ET's wouldn't be wearing similar attire.

My answer would be are we really in a position to know?  Don't forget that Jesse Roestenburg related a strikingly similar observation.

What I meant to imply was that if ET's are wearing human attire, it doesn't mean they're not ET's.  I suppose we often assume they may look like Lady Gaga.  Maybe they dress deliberately to blend in with us in case they have a need or a desire to "mingle" with the locals.

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 07:50 PM

View Postzoser, on 06 October 2012 - 07:45 PM, said:

In the sense of the only thing capable of interfering with a car must have conventional explanations.

Any one who knows anything about UFO cases well knows that thousands of people have reported that they interfere with engines.  This is nothing new.

If as we suspect they emit powerful electromagnetic energy then how can they not interfere with engines?


That has nothing to do with my reply at all.

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Thousands of people?..." claim "....I want to see a list of these thousands of people :)

Anyway, your reply made no sense at all to what I said. You said he has little imagination....So, you just admitted a lot of what people claim, and believe, from " reports " comes down to " imagination ".

Peter Pan says the same thing about a person flying, doesn't he?

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 07:51 PM

View Postsynchronomy, on 06 October 2012 - 07:49 PM, said:

What I meant to imply was that if ET's are wearing human attire, it doesn't mean they're not ET's.  I suppose we often assume they may look like Lady Gaga.  Maybe they dress deliberately to blend in with us in case they have a need or a desire to "mingle" with the locals.

Sorry I misread your OP.  Ignore my comment.

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 07:52 PM

View Postsynchronomy, on 06 October 2012 - 06:50 PM, said:

Your posts provide nothing but contradiction and ridicule of very interesting viewpoints.
Don't forget the word "alienz" in a humorous way as well.

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 07:53 PM

View Postsynchronomy, on 06 October 2012 - 07:49 PM, said:

What I meant to imply was that if ET's are wearing human attire, it doesn't mean they're not ET's.  I suppose we often assume they may look like Lady Gaga.  Maybe they dress deliberately to blend in with us in case they have a need or a desire to "mingle" with the locals.

They are quite a few reports from reliable witnesses who have claimed to see them doing exactly that.  If they don't look human in their original or natural form, perhaps they can give the appearance of being so.  

That raises all kinds of interesting questions about their true origins.


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Posted 06 October 2012 - 07:54 PM

View PostSakari, on 06 October 2012 - 07:50 PM, said:

That has nothing to do with my reply at all.

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Thousands of people?..." claim "....I want to see a list of these thousands of people :)

Anyway, your reply made no sense at all to what I said. You said he has little imagination....So, you just admitted a lot of what people claim, and believe, from " reports " comes down to " imagination ".

Peter Pan says the same thing about a person flying, doesn't he?

Sakari if you have never heard of UFO's interfering with car engines then you haven't seriously researched the cases.  Betty and Barney Hill for a start.  

Just scan this:

http://www.nicap.org...s/ufointerf.htm

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