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#1    Still Waters

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 01:37 PM

An Oklahoma teen convicted of manslaughter has sentenced to 10 years of probation, with requirements that include regularly attending church.

Tyler Alred, now 17, had been drinking when he crashed a pickup truck at around 4 a.m. on Dec. 3, 2011, Tulsa World reports. The accident killed Alred's friend, 16-year-old John Luke Dum, who was a passenger in the vehicle.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 01:50 PM

Ah, the good old colonial times back on the rise...

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 01:52 PM

Yeah.. is that really even legal??? Separation of church and government and all that jazz... He should get a couple of years in jail until he's matured enough not to do it again.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 01:53 PM

View PostStill Waters, on 20 November 2012 - 01:37 PM, said:

An Oklahoma teen convicted of manslaughter has sentenced to 10 years of probation, with requirements that include regularly attending church.

Tyler Alred, now 17, had been drinking when he crashed a pickup truck at around 4 a.m. on Dec. 3, 2011, Tulsa World reports. The accident killed Alred's friend, 16-year-old John Luke Dum, who was a passenger in the vehicle.

http://www.huffingto..._n_2146619.html
The ACLU will probably get this sentence overturned even if the young man doesn't object to it.  Bad precedent.  Not sure what the judge was thinking but I have no problem with the idea in theory.  Church going has been found to be an activity that correlates with increased longevity and better emotional wellbeing.  Maybe any kind of structure would do the same but this kid seems to need SOMETHING.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 01:58 PM

View Postquestionmark, on 20 November 2012 - 01:50 PM, said:

Ah, the good old colonial times back on the rise...
Yeah, we can't have something like THAT.  Because the way we are doing things in our more enlightened age are working out SO well for us, huh?  I agree that the State shouldn't be pushing religion.  If they do this and get away with it then my grandchildren might be forced someday to attend Mosque.  Religion needs to be a private concern totally.  This kid made a mistake that is common of his age group and it cost a friend his life.  If this sentence is kicked back by litigation then the 17 year old probably turns 20 in a prison cell.  Maybe that helps him but probably? No.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 02:01 PM

Well the story doesn't mention what type of church. If it is up to the kid he should pick something different: pagan, rastafarian, mormonlol.


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Posted 20 November 2012 - 02:16 PM

View PostChasingtherabbit, on 20 November 2012 - 02:01 PM, said:

Well the story doesn't mention what type of church. If it is up to the kid he should pick something different: pagan, rastafarian, mormonlol.

He could attend the Church of Biff :D

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 02:19 PM

This is a punishment worse than death.


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Posted 20 November 2012 - 02:31 PM

Should of given him 10 years in jail and let him attend church there.

Judges sometimes do hand out punishments that probably aren't constitutional but unless you have to money to take it to a higher court or someone takes up your cause you just have to live with it.  That is how they get by with it.


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Posted 20 November 2012 - 03:35 PM

Drinking while driving is NO accident..I doubt going to church will do him any good, as his attorney states,  he attends church every week anyway

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 03:42 PM

How about... ten years in prison? Drinking, driving, with a passenger? Puhlease, and underage to boot. Screw church, toss him into the slammer.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 03:46 PM

How about 10 years with Alcoholics Anonymous - going through the 12 step program would at least be a practical type of rehabilitation for a drunk driver, even if it only teaches him to drink responsibly.

Since when has going to church ever stopped anyone from doing anything?  Aren't most of the Mafia avid churchgoers?  This is really the height of ridiculous.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 07:32 PM

Church  = punishment...I best drive safely, otherwise they could sentence me to 10 years as a parishioner ... If I commit murder, I could wind up  life as a nun !!! :blink:  ( Kidding )

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 05:01 AM

What happens when you stand in front of a muslim judge who sentences you to 10 years of going to an Islamic mosque?
These kind of things do push the line. Can you imagine sentencing a muslim to attend church for 10 years?


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Posted 21 November 2012 - 12:55 PM

View PostRealm, on 21 November 2012 - 05:01 AM, said:

What happens when you stand in front of a muslim judge who sentences you to 10 years of going to an Islamic mosque?
These kind of things do push the line. Can you imagine sentencing a muslim to attend church for 10 years?

He'll probably end up like the only Jew you'll see in a church: nailed to a cross. LOL.





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