GIDEON MAGE Posted November 28, 2012 #1 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Good morning, I want to unabashedly promote my articles on Examiner.com. My most recent one is: http://www.examiner.com/article/taoism-101-62-tao-te-ching-chapter-62-tao-of-jesus-of-nazareth Far from wanting to bash Jesus of Nazareth, I'd like to point out that the source of some of his adorable little comments seems to be Lao Tze, a Chinese Philosopher that lived 500 years earlier. There are more than a few examples of this. If anyone is even remootely interested in this topic, I can quote a few more. One of the Ideas purported in the Tao Te Ching is the Idea that, if you completely merge with the Tao, you can become Immortal. Lao Tze himself is honored by some Sects of Taoism as an Immortal. There are even Legends that he taught Siddharta Gautama, the Buddha. Was he still around in the firdt century C.E.? Perhaps he met with Jesus of Nazareth and taught him? It would explain so much. After all, Jesus of Nazareth did teach that we should follow the Tao ("The Way"). Discuss among yourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ever Learning Posted November 28, 2012 #2 Share Posted November 28, 2012 face palms self repeatetly untill what ive read makes sense 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ever Learning Posted November 28, 2012 #3 Share Posted November 28, 2012 can you please explain your ideas of christianity and how they are simalar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartan max2 Posted November 28, 2012 #4 Share Posted November 28, 2012 face palms self repeatetly untill what ive read makes sense lololol i just wanted to tell you that reading your post made me actually laugh out loud. Thank you 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ouija ouija Posted November 28, 2012 #5 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Good morning, I want to unabashedly promote my articles on Examiner.com. My most recent one is: http://www.examiner....sus-of-nazareth Far from wanting to bash Jesus of Nazareth, I'd like to point out that the source of some of his adorable little comments seems to be Lao Tze, a Chinese Philosopher that lived 500 years earlier. There are more than a few examples of this. If anyone is even remootely interested in this topic, I can quote a few more. One of the Ideas purported in the Tao Te Ching is the Idea that, if you completely merge with the Tao, you can become Immortal. Lao Tzehimself is honored by some Sects of Taoism as an Immortal. There are even Legends that he taught Siddharta Gautama, the Buddha. Was he still around in the firdt century C.E.? Perhaps he met with Jesus of Nazareth and taught him? It would explain so much. After all, Jesus of Nazareth did teach that we should follow the Tao ("The Way"). Discuss among yourselves. Gideon, old son, this is ripping stuff! I don't follow any religion, I'm an atheist who was raised as a Christian Protestant, but I have always thought that Jesus did indeed make some 'adorable little comments' that would help one to live one's life well ....... as other spiritual leaders have done, of course. More quotes please! The only criticism I have of your article is that I can't really see the connection between the two quotes ..... although both of them are admirable. Regarding your post: I think it's possible that Jesus 'met' Lao Tze in spirit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GIDEON MAGE Posted November 28, 2012 Author #6 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Gideon, old son, this is ripping stuff! I don't follow any religion, I'm an atheist who was raised as a Christian Protestant, but I have always thought that Jesus did indeed make some 'adorable little comments' that would help one to live one's life well ....... as other spiritual leaders have done, of course. More quotes please! The only criticism I have of your article is that I can't really see the connection between the two quotes ..... although both of them are admirable. Regarding your post: I think it's possible that Jesus 'met' Lao Tze in spirit. Maybe. I have always been fascinated by the apparent references in the Tao Te Ching to Immortality. Maybe Jesus happened to read the book. There were established trade routes at the time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysticStrummer Posted November 30, 2012 #7 Share Posted November 30, 2012 I've long felt that Jesus either went east between his childhood and the beginning of his ministry, or he was somehow exposed to eastern philosophy/religion in his own area of the world. I think he heard that type of teaching somewhere and applied it to his own religion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinxdom Posted November 30, 2012 #8 Share Posted November 30, 2012 From his mind. Hell I read some some of my thoughts I written down and they almost sound like his and other spiritual leaders(Same concepts but with less wtf were they smoking involved). People have a tendency to think of the best way to do something if left to their own devices. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Walker Posted November 30, 2012 #9 Share Posted November 30, 2012 (edited) Good morning, I want to unabashedly promote my articles on Examiner.com. My most recent one is: http://www.examiner....sus-of-nazareth Far from wanting to bash Jesus of Nazareth, I'd like to point out that the source of some of his adorable little comments seems to be Lao Tze, a Chinese Philosopher that lived 500 years earlier. There are more than a few examples of this. If anyone is even remootely interested in this topic, I can quote a few more. One of the Ideas purported in the Tao Te Ching is the Idea that, if you completely merge with the Tao, you can become Immortal. Lao Tzehimself is honored by some Sects of Taoism as an Immortal. There are even Legends that he taught Siddharta Gautama, the Buddha. Was he still around in the firdt century C.E.? Perhaps he met with Jesus of Nazareth and taught him? It would explain so much. After all, Jesus of Nazareth did teach that we should follow the Tao ("The Way"). Discuss among yourselves. These forms of self realisation are quite common. Ive had them myself as a child. and then all my life Once you attain a certain level of consciousness or perhaps just stumble, as I did, upon the cosmic consciousness, many universal truths become obvious.They are, i guess, always filtered through ones scientific cultural and other knowledge, but the similarities remain. Our consciousnesses are stored in the universal consciousness after death. I dont know if they remain self aware in present time, but one can acces them using your own consciousness. Ie you can access the consciousness of someone who has died and link with that awareness, hold a conversation with it, live within its own historic experiences etc. Such concepts, like many scientific discoveries, are not made by just one person and then taught or handed down around the world. They are discovered or realised by many many individual people. Some promote them dsme patent them and some become known as the historical starting point for an invention or a concpet. But this is not true. Such ideas and knowldge spring up spontaneously from within many human minds, because they are truths, and even if forgotten they will re-emerge in people centuries later. Edited November 30, 2012 by Mr Walker 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpiritWriter Posted November 30, 2012 #10 Share Posted November 30, 2012 I would say Jesus was an incarnation of God and maybe him and Lao Tze knew each other rather well, perhaps not in humanly form, but they got their ideas from the same life force... Just as Mr. Walker said, people get the same kinds of revelation all the time. For them it may have just been intuitive from the start, and they were bold enough not to question the authority of their inner knowledge and pass it on. We're lucky to have teachers of this sort... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckys_Mom Posted November 30, 2012 #11 Share Posted November 30, 2012 (edited) Good morning, I want to unabashedly promote my articles on Examiner.com. My most recent one is: http://www.examiner....sus-of-nazareth Far from wanting to bash Jesus of Nazareth, I'd like to point out that the source of some of his adorable little comments seems to be Lao Tze, a Chinese Philosopher that lived 500 years earlier. There are more than a few examples of this. If anyone is even remootely interested in this topic, I can quote a few more. Post more examples .Thanks Edited November 30, 2012 by Beckys_Mom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarMountainKid Posted November 30, 2012 #12 Share Posted November 30, 2012 I think there is little historical evidence that the person Lao Tze ever existed, or if he did, wrote the Tao Te Ching. The subject is easly googled. I think Jesus may have had a spiritual experience, an enlightenment, and the only way he could express this experience was in the local, cultural and religious terms of the time. Of course, we don't really know what Jesus' original message was, as what has been written down has been edited, added to, changed, compacted, lost in translation, etc. If Jesus had been born in India, for example, his message would have been expressed in terms of the Hindu or Buddhist culture. I think his message, which we have a partial account of, is a universal message, available to all of every era. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bling Posted December 1, 2012 #13 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Who says Jesus ever existed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Walker Posted December 1, 2012 #14 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Who says Jesus ever existed? Almost every mainstream historian, atheist or otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean93 Posted December 5, 2012 #15 Share Posted December 5, 2012 He got them from a man named John Frum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C235 Posted December 5, 2012 #16 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Could it be that chengiz khan & hitler met too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magicjax Posted December 7, 2012 #17 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Did Gautama Buddha live before Jesus supposedly lived? If so I'd imagine his philosophy could have been passed along. Is this possible? I'm claiming to know. I'm just asking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eight bits Posted December 8, 2012 #18 Share Posted December 8, 2012 Did Gautama Buddha live before Jesus supposedly lived? Yes, about 500 years or so. The actual life dates are unknown for either man, typical estimates place the Buddha roughly 400 to 600 years before the Christ. If so I'd imagine his philosophy could have been passed along. Is this possible? I'm claiming to know. I'm just asking. Yes. Gautama founded monasteries, and the monasteries dispatched missionaries. Some of them could have gone west; the Silk Road was available to them. If not Buddhist missionaries, then Westerners who went east to trade, and brought back stories of India. However, there is a simpler explanation. The Buddha's contemporary, Heraclitus, had many of the same ideas as Gautama, except that Heraclitus didn't make a religion of it. He did, however, donate his book to a library. Socrates read the book, and taught it to Plato. Plato taught it to Aristotle, and Aristotle taught it to Alexander the Great. Alexander, his generals and their successors imposed Greek culture far and wide, including upon the Jewish homeland. Moreover, Heraclitus inspired the Stoics, who were everywhere in the post-Alexander Hellenistic world. Philo of Alexandria saw the Stoic-Jewish connection. Jesus might have, too. Justin Martyr, a not quite proto-orthodox early Chrisitan writer called Heraclitus a Christian (as someone who lived "reasonably" before Jesus, First Apology, chapter 46). http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/justinmartyr-firstapology.html It's just not that difficult for a Hellenistic figure's ideas to resemble the Buddha's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Weapon Posted December 8, 2012 #19 Share Posted December 8, 2012 face palms self repeatetly untill what ive read makes sense I bet you're still facepalming yourself. I would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean93 Posted December 9, 2012 #20 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Sam Harris said it well when comparing Jesus and Mohamed. Jesus was just a hippy really. I agree with that, he has all the right traits of one "peace and love man...woah" It's fairly evident he looked around at the hellhole the Middle East was (is!) and thought "This has to change." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Voodoo Posted December 9, 2012 #21 Share Posted December 9, 2012 I think that Jesus was influenced by Socrates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrowMax Posted December 13, 2012 #22 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Maybe Jesus got his idea in a book..hehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellapenella Posted December 13, 2012 #23 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Good morning, I want to unabashedly promote my articles on Examiner.com. My most recent one is: http://www.examiner....sus-of-nazareth Far from wanting to bash Jesus of Nazareth, I'd like to point out that the source of some of his adorable little comments seems to be Lao Tze, a Chinese Philosopher that lived 500 years earlier. There are more than a few examples of this. If anyone is even remootely interested in this topic, I can quote a few more. One of the Ideas purported in the Tao Te Ching is the Idea that, if you completely merge with the Tao, you can become Immortal. Lao Tzehimself is honored by some Sects of Taoism as an Immortal. There are even Legends that he taught Siddharta Gautama, the Buddha. Was he still around in the firdt century C.E.? Perhaps he met with Jesus of Nazareth and taught him? It would explain so much. After all, Jesus of Nazareth did teach that we should follow the Tao ("The Way"). Discuss among yourselves. What exactly are you referring to of Christ teachings in making these claims ? If Christ is who the bible identifies him as being several hundreds years prior to his birth, the one that Isaiha prophesied of, the one who would give his life for us all , and by doing so his light will illuminate this world , just like he said it would, who than is Christ? I'm not suggesting we are Christ . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Crane Feather Posted December 13, 2012 #24 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Perhaps it's just wisdom decernable by anyone who thinks/meditates. If its wise, might many wise men come to similar conclusions? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Voodoo Posted December 13, 2012 #25 Share Posted December 13, 2012 (edited) Perhaps it's just wisdom decernable by anyone who thinks/meditates. If its wise, might many wise men come to similar conclusions? True. But he also knew Greek and we nothing about his early life if dont consider sources out of Bible. So he wasnt geographicly far from center of philosophy. Also Socrates influence is seen in Jesus words. So we might call Jesus post-Socrates philosopher in sense you want to describe his insights? Edited December 13, 2012 by the L Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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