Still Waters Posted August 15, 2015 #1 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Al-Qaeda has released a message claiming to show Osama bin Laden's son Hamza urging terrorist attacks to be carried out in London and in other countries allied to the US. Hamza bin Laden, believed to be in his mid-20s and reportedly known as the 'crown prince of terror', has been touted as a future leader of al-Qaeda. In the message, which was shared on Twitter, he calls for lone wolf jihadist attacks on America and its allies and marks out London, Washington, Paris and Tel Aviv as specific targets. http://www.independe...e-10456986.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoPlayonAhighway Posted August 15, 2015 #2 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Hamza bin Laden, believed to be in his mid-20s and reportedly known as the 'crown prince of terror', has been touted as a future leader of al-Qaeda. i for one, believe that his father Osama, was a terrorist, but I find no reason to believe he was the mastermind behind 9-11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Meadows Posted August 15, 2015 #3 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Al-Qaeda is so "last year". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toast Posted August 15, 2015 #4 Share Posted August 15, 2015 i for one, believe that his father Osama, was a terrorist, but I find no reason to believe he was the mastermind behind 9-11. The buffet has been opened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewinn Posted August 15, 2015 #5 Share Posted August 15, 2015 i for one, believe that his father Osama, was a terrorist, but I find no reason to believe he was the mastermind behind 9-11. who was the mastermind? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoPlayonAhighway Posted August 15, 2015 #6 Share Posted August 15, 2015 (edited) who was the mastermind? I am going to leave that up to your own interpretation. I have my theories, but they are only "theories". OBL may have been involved in planning 9-11, but there is no way he organized and executed the attack without help. I also believe the US government fabricated the mission in which OBL was killed. I am not claiming that he is still alive or to know his whereabouts. And i am DEFINITELY not one of those people claiming that Osama bin Laden is actually Barack Obama in disguise. That is way too far out there, even for me. The US invaded Iraq to remove Saddam Hussein from power. During the campaign we killed both of Saddam's sons with a bomb strike. The US deemed it appropriate to publish pictures of the battered and bloodied corpses of Uday and Qusay Hussein in many major magazines, newspapers, and television broadcasts. When the US captured Saddam himself, this was also major news. His time incarcerated and his trial where all heavily written about. His execution can be seen on LiveLeak.com to this day. So my point is, the capture and execution of Saddam was thoroughly covered by the media, and Saddam had no part in the 9-11 terrorist attack. US forces supposedly killed Osama Bin Laden, the so called "mastermind" of 9-11, and there are no pictures of his body, and no footage from the raid that led to his death. There is also the inexpiable decision to have him "buried at sea", which has not been done with any high profile military target in recent history. The US government has lied too many times for me to take their word for anything. Think whatever you want, and call me an idiot if it makes you feel better. After all, this is only my opinion and not fact. Edited August 15, 2015 by GoPlayonAhighway 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.United_Nations Posted August 15, 2015 #7 Share Posted August 15, 2015 People worshiped Osama has a god, by showing a live video of that, it would encourge more terrorists to well......more terrorist acts or encourage wanna be terrorists. Also the Pakistan thing... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoPlayonAhighway Posted August 15, 2015 #8 Share Posted August 15, 2015 People worshiped Osama has a god, by showing a live video of that, it would encourge more terrorists to well......more terrorist acts or encourage wanna be terrorists. Also the Pakistan thing... Terrorism/terrorists/attacks are going to happen with or without photos of a dead Bin Laden. If they were concerned about encouraging terrorism, they would have stopped using drone strikes on civillian areas.. In my opinion... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightly Posted August 16, 2015 #9 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Al-Qaeda has released a message claiming to show Osama bin Laden's son Hamza urging terrorist attacks to be carried out in London and in other countries allied to the US. Hamza bin Laden, believed to be in his mid-20s and reportedly known as the 'crown prince of terror', has been touted as a future leader of al-Qaeda. In the message, which was shared on Twitter, he calls for lone wolf jihadist attacks on America and its allies and marks out London, Washington, Paris and Tel Aviv as specific targets. http://www.independe...e-10456986.html why has everything ever associated with the 'war on terror' been written in the same language of Claims and Reportedlys and according to's? I don't think the entire U.S. GOVERNMENT was behind 9-11 that's just crazy talk ... it probably only took a handful of individuals in the CIA and Pentagon, beholding to even more powerful people in the private sector In the U.S and elsewhere, and maybe a Defense Secretary and a Vice President to make it allllllll seem legitimate Who questions information, or orders, handed down from the top levels of those organizations? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewinn Posted August 16, 2015 #10 Share Posted August 16, 2015 I am going to leave that up to your own interpretation. I have my theories, but they are only "theories". OBL may have been involved in planning 9-11, but there is no way he organized and executed the attack without help. I also believe the US government fabricated the mission in which OBL was killed. I am not claiming that he is still alive or to know his whereabouts. And i am DEFINITELY not one of those people claiming that Osama bin Laden is actually Barack Obama in disguise. That is way too far out there, even for me. The US invaded Iraq to remove Saddam Hussein from power. During the campaign we killed both of Saddam's sons with a bomb strike. The US deemed it appropriate to publish pictures of the battered and bloodied corpses of Uday and Qusay Hussein in many major magazines, newspapers, and television broadcasts. When the US captured Saddam himself, this was also major news. His time incarcerated and his trial where all heavily written about. His execution can be seen on LiveLeak.com to this day. So my point is, the capture and execution of Saddam was thoroughly covered by the media, and Saddam had no part in the 9-11 terrorist attack. US forces supposedly killed Osama Bin Laden, the so called "mastermind" of 9-11, and there are no pictures of his body, and no footage from the raid that led to his death. There is also the inexpiable decision to have him "buried at sea", which has not been done with any high profile military target in recent history. The US government has lied too many times for me to take their word for anything. Think whatever you want, and call me an idiot if it makes you feel better. After all, this is only my opinion and not fact. YOUR an IDIOT. I feel better, now. You raise some good points how the coverage between Saddam and Bin Laden differed. As for the Bin Laden Mission, and it being fabricated. The team of Navy Seals' who carried out the raid - not long after the capture of OBL wasn't a number of them involved in a accident? Helicopter accident? You say "OBL may have been involved in planning 9-11, but there is no way he organized and executed the attack without help" - help from whom i ask? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoPlayonAhighway Posted August 16, 2015 #11 Share Posted August 16, 2015 (edited) <p> <br />YOUR an IDIOT. I feel better, now. <img src='http://www.unexplain...ault/tongue.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=' ' /><br /> <br /> You raise some good points how the coverage between Saddam and Bin Laden differed. As for the Bin Laden Mission, and it being fabricated. The team of Navy Seals' who carried out the raid - not long after the capture of OBL wasn't a number of them involved in a accident? Helicopter accident?<br /> <br /> You say "OBL may have been involved in planning 9-11, but there is no way he organized and executed the attack without help" - help from whom i ask?<br /> <br />Again, these are only "theories", but certain facts and evidence seem to point in the direction of members of the US government. This is all open to your own interpretation of course, but if you are curious, have a look at the video I will post a link to. This is not some paranoid, delusional person's opinionated view on the subject either. Every statement in this video can be verified by credible sources. As I said, please decide for yourself.... Edited August 16, 2015 by GoPlayonAhighway 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Caspian Hare Posted August 16, 2015 #12 Share Posted August 16, 2015 You raise some good points how the coverage between Saddam and Bin Laden differed. As for the Bin Laden Mission, and it being fabricated. The team of Navy Seals' who carried out the raid - not long after the capture of OBL wasn't a number of them involved in a accident? Helicopter accident? It was some SEALs from the same parent unit (Seal Team Six aka DEVGRU/Development Group), but they were not the same group. Their Chinook was hit by an RPG. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoPlayonAhighway Posted August 16, 2015 #13 Share Posted August 16, 2015 (edited) http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-33152315 https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2015/06/19/osama-bin-ladens-son-asked-the-u-s-government-for-his-fathers-death-certificate-the-u-s-said-no/ Edited August 16, 2015 by GoPlayonAhighway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoPlayonAhighway Posted August 16, 2015 #14 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Last thing I will say: if the US government says "the sky is blue" or "winter is cold", I would go and see for myself before I believe anything those lying, scheming, puss bags tell me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.United_Nations Posted August 19, 2015 #15 Share Posted August 19, 2015 Last thing I will say: if the US government says "the sky is blue" or "winter is cold", I would go and see for myself before I believe anything those lying, scheming, puss bags tell me. what about the Pakistani government? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travelnjones Posted August 19, 2015 #16 Share Posted August 19, 2015 i for one, believe that his father Osama, was a terrorist, but I find no reason to believe he was the mastermind behind 9-11. I personally see him more as a venture capitalist of terrorism. Others have the ideas and do the work, he funneled resources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellapenella Posted August 19, 2015 #17 Share Posted August 19, 2015 <p><br /> Again, these are only "theories", but certain facts and evidence seem to point in the direction of members of the US government. This is all open to your own interpretation of course, but if you are curious, have a look at the video I will post a link to. This is not some paranoid, delusional person's opinionated view on the subject either. Every statement in this video can be verified by credible sources. As I said, please decide for yourself.... ...about the provoked attack of pearl harbor, it's difficult for some people to consider that sort of conspiring does happen, and could of happened in the case of the towers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Grey Posted August 19, 2015 #18 Share Posted August 19, 2015 Operation Northwoods is a major sticking point for me and why I can't just dismiss "9/11 truthers" "Operation Northwoods was a proposed operation against the Cuban government, that originated within the Department of Defense (DoD) and the Joint Chiefs of Staff (JCS) of the United States government in 1962. The proposals called for the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) or other US government operatives to commit acts of terrorism against American civilians and military targets, blaming it on the Cuban government, and using it to justify a war against Cuba. The proposals were rejected by the Kennedy administration.[2]" The United States government was going to kill their own citizens to justify a war against Cuba. Think very hard about those implications and how that relates to the terrorist attack in question. If they are willing to do that, what else are they willing to do? For anyone out there with a short attention span, reminder that Operation Northwoods was signed by the Joint Chief's of Staff - they wanted this to happen. Also note the president in office that rejected the plan was assassinated. Coincidence? Maybe, maybe not. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoPlayonAhighway Posted August 20, 2015 #19 Share Posted August 20, 2015 what about the Pakistani government? Since I am not a citizen of Pakistan, I am not of Pakistani descent, I am not currently (nor have I ever been on Pakistani soil), I do not pay taxes to Pakistan, I do not vote in Pakistani elections, and I am not subject to Pakistani laws. So I don't think much about the Pakistani government. I personally do not have enough information to form any kind of opinion one way or the other. The things I hear in the media, I always take with a grain of salt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidhead Posted August 20, 2015 #20 Share Posted August 20, 2015 YOUR an IDIOT. I feel better, now. You raise some good points how the coverage between Saddam and Bin Laden differed. As for the Bin Laden Mission, and it being fabricated. The team of Navy Seals' who carried out the raid - not long after the capture of OBL wasn't a number of them involved in a accident? Helicopter accident? You say "OBL may have been involved in planning 9-11, but there is no way he organized and executed the attack without help" - help from whom i ask? I don't know their names but it's the people who convince western govs to support the racist apartheid state of Israel If Israel didn't exist we wouldnt be having this conversation. Before 1948 there never existed in history a country called Israel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidhead Posted August 20, 2015 #21 Share Posted August 20, 2015 The US was aiding Al Qaeda before 911 with the Mujhaheddin The US is aiding Al Qaeda after 911 with the FSA/ISIS But during 911.... noooooo... they were separate and bad guys with no covert funding or protection...... .......yeahhhh right --RD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timothy Posted August 20, 2015 #22 Share Posted August 20, 2015 My first thought: If they have a good idea where he is, hit it hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Border Collie Posted August 21, 2015 #23 Share Posted August 21, 2015 <p><br /> Again, these are only "theories", but certain facts and evidence seem to point in the direction of members of the US government. This is all open to your own interpretation of course, but if you are curious, have a look at the video I will post a link to. This is not some paranoid, delusional person's opinionated view on the subject either. Every statement in this video can be verified by credible sources. As I said, please decide for yourself.... Same old stuff again. Unconvincing. You say that every statement can be verified by credible sources. Check out the various 9/11 threads. Every statement is also rebutted by credible sources. And so, back to the thread subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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