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#211    Sakari

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 08:11 PM

View Postcormac mac airt, on 12 December 2012 - 08:09 PM, said:

Her whole claim is starting to look like a "wish-sandwich".

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Looked that way starting 5 years ago to me...." Bigfoot Steak ", that was the most laughable thing ever.

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 08:14 PM

View PostSakari, on 12 December 2012 - 08:11 PM, said:

Looked that way starting 5 years ago to me...." Bigfoot Steak ", that was the most laughable thing ever.

Looks like I saved myself some time. :lol:  I usually don't involve myself with genetics studies which are quite obviously not going to pan out.

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 08:18 PM

View Postcormac mac airt, on 12 December 2012 - 08:14 PM, said:

Looks like I saved myself some time. :lol:  I usually don't involve myself with genetics studies which are quite obviously not going to pan out.

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I find it aggravating that these people actually make money off of this. I thought scamming was illegal?

I wish someone would put funding towards prosecuting these people. ( but again, channels like Animal Planet / History, etc. would be defendants.)

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 08:21 PM

I don't think Ketchum is out quite yet. Can't you simply reorganize and edit your paper and resubmit for Peer Review? We don't know why they refused it, do we? Officially? Anyway, isn't it being sent to Russia then to be Published? We all know the level of stuff that gets actually published in Russia, so it will likely see the light of day there.

I for one would like to read it.

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 08:25 PM

View PostSakari, on 12 December 2012 - 08:18 PM, said:

I find it aggravating that these people actually make money off of this. I thought scamming was illegal?

I wish someone would put funding towards prosecuting these people. ( but again, channels like Animal Planet / History, etc. would be defendants.)

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 01:46 AM

View PostInsanity, on 12 December 2012 - 08:11 PM, said:

Honestly, there was a leak that Ketchum's findings were rejected during peer review, and now a leak that perhaps that may not be the case?
I'd be happy with some official report, regardless of the results, rather then leaks.

This how she keeps her freak show rolling along for all these years.

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 02:27 AM

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:w00t:  I almost spit my beer out because of this...and that would have been alcohol abuse.


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Posted 13 December 2012 - 07:29 AM

View PostDieChecker, on 12 December 2012 - 08:21 PM, said:

I don't think Ketchum is out quite yet. Can't you simply reorganize and edit your paper and resubmit for Peer Review? We don't know why they refused it, do we? Officially? Anyway, isn't it being sent to Russia then to be Published? We all know the level of stuff that gets actually published in Russia, so it will likely see the light of day there.

I for one would like to read it.

I'll keep an eye out on Pravda for you ;)

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Posted 15 December 2012 - 03:29 PM

View PostNeognosis, on 08 December 2012 - 02:33 PM, said:

the paper failed peer review.

end of story.

Peer review exists so that people cannot publish claims without properly collected and analyzed data.

She had no properly collected and analyzed data. End of story.

Occam's Razor would support exactly what you are saying.  We can speculate all we like, but at the end of the day there is no properly collected and analyzed data.  If Bigfoots are real and they are ever to be categorized by science, then they and their supporters are going to have to play by the same rules that every other animal found by every other researcher ever in the history of Biology has had to follow.

Anything else - this recent episode is a perfect example - is an EPIC science FAIL.


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Posted 16 December 2012 - 02:06 AM

We all know what the believers are going to say about the peer review rejecting Melba's findings "the soulless minions of orthodoxy are again hiding the truth"
Because nothing panders to a persecution complex then being told "it's rubbish" by someone in a position of authority.

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 04:05 AM

I'm in a grey area with this phenomena. I'm not one to quickly debunk but not too sure to believe. after all, the Saola aka Asian Unicorn was discovered in the jungles of southeast asia in the 1990's. Westerners never knew about it until then but the locals always knew of it's existence. It could be possible a Bigfoot exist.


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Posted 05 January 2013 - 06:08 AM

View PostMag357, on 05 January 2013 - 04:05 AM, said:

I'm in a grey area with this phenomena. I'm not one to quickly debunk but not too sure to believe. after all, the Saola aka Asian Unicorn was discovered in the jungles of southeast asia in the 1990's. Westerners never knew about it until then but the locals always knew of it's existence. It could be possible a Bigfoot exist.



Were people reporting seeing those all around the world?...Hundreds if not thousands of reports a year?

Or were they stumbled across in a remote area, and only live there?

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 06:15 AM

View PostSakari, on 12 December 2012 - 08:11 PM, said:

Looked that way starting 5 years ago to me...." Bigfoot Steak ", that was the most laughable thing ever.

Oh damn you. For some reason after reading that I have the image of a steak in my mind, my brain going over and over it how it would be. For some reason I just see hairy meat. Yuck. Yea I know that makes no sense!

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 07:09 PM

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So...this is a very stunning find and one that will reshape the scientific mind and community (if it's true, of course)
So why isn't this a bigger deal?

Because the entire world of Bigfoot seeking groups is packed full of liars, charlatans, con men, and people who simply get off duping others. Anyone with an ounce of actual credibility would be smart to stay completely away from it until such time as real evidence comes forward. Then what will happen all the guys with piles of letters after their names will take over and suddenly become the "world's fore most authority". Oh and the people who have all the TV shows, radio shows, websites and such will need to get real jobs. Hey! I don't make the rules, the world does. I just live here.


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Posted 05 January 2013 - 07:54 PM

I don't trust scientific studies until they are published.

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